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At least, the next gen Macbook Pro is advertised with pro stuffs. Video editing, science and engineering.

It will be like the MBA: first MBA was around $2,000.00. Two years laters, it's the most selling macbook, first price $1,000.00.

I am expecting a next gen MBP line up in 2013, with 13" and 15" between $1,300.00 and 2,200.00. And the existing MBP line to be discontinued.
 
Has there been any word on which type of panel the new display has?

A TN-panel retina display would be disappointing. Hope it's IPS.
 
I agree very much that the pricing is too up there for this 15" macbook pro.

I'm using a 2007 MacBook Pro 17" with an antiglare display with max res of 1680x1050.

For my line of work going to a 15" with only 1440x900 workspace would make my work uncomfortable.

I don't think these new macbook pros are meant for photographers and and graphic designers.

If I were to get a new macbook pro it would have to be from Apple's refurbished list where the 17" is still there, or try ebay. I liked the 1920x1200 res those 17" provided.

Bad apple.
 
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No audio in? uhhhhhhhhh.

derp. Guess they don't want people who work with audio to use this.

Edit: I derped. I meant audio-in.
 
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Has there been any word on which type of panel the new display has?

A TN-panel retina display would be disappointing. Hope it's IPS.

The keynote mentions "greatly improved viewing angles". I would think that means ips. Also, I don't think you can make a tn retina display. You can pack more pixels using ips (I can explain better if anyone is interested).
 
cost

Unfortunate that without the optical drive and with the retina display the cost is so much higher.
 
My beef about the new 15" Pro is:

1)The cost is insane for the low end 15" for $1799. And the $2199 Retina ONLY comes in a 256GB SSD. I have to shell out $600+ for the privilege of getting a larger drive by buying the $2799 model.

2)It's not a pro machine for the price....it's built to be lighter, thinner, and sexier. Those qualities do not define "pro".

3)The Macbook became the Macbook Pro and the Retina Pro is a new model. Talk about mucking around with branding.

4)The $1799 (among others) Pro ships with a VERY weak 4GB of ram and 5400RPM drive. It also tops out at 8GB of ram and can't push 1920x1080. Again, this is labeled a "pro" machine...


All around some fair upgrades and they look nice...but the pricing is way off base...and no, I'm not buying a 13" laptop...those died in 1996.

My suggestion: get a second job, or third.

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You mean digital? Analog is there.

Aren't they combined analog and optical digital?
 
No audio out? uhhhhhhhhh.

derp. Guess they don't want people who work with audio to use this.

There is one port for headphones and microphone...yeah, lame...between that and the huge price increase...not interested.
 
On the presentation it looked soldered. I would guess so is the ssd (not likely)

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Ya. The stores in Colorado had a few of them, but they aren't allowed to sell them today. I was wondering which versions they had. I doubt they have the 768gb edition, but my business rep said he'd call me when he found out.

I called the flag ship store in San Francisco, they said they had no info on when they would be getting them in. I asked them to guess and they said _maybe_ next week.

I will check back in a day or so. If they have them I will just buy it there instead of waiting weeks.
 
I waited a while for this but after much thinking, I'm going to pass on it.

The fact that the ram and SSD drives aren't upgradeable is pretty much a non starter for me.

Add on top of that the cost and possible bugs, I'll wait for the next model.
 
Update: The Verge has also posted a gallery of hands-on photos of the new MacBook Pro.
"Screen is, alas, highly reflective but incredibly crisp and bright."
To me this is not PRO and I lost interest.
Why make a portable machine, where you can't have benefit of small pixels, but instead just get annoyed by reflections. I hate reflections with my new iPad...
My beef about the new 15" Pro is:
1)The cost is insane for the low end 15" for $1799. And the $2199 Retina ONLY comes in a 256GB SSD. I have to shell out $600+ for the privilege of getting a larger drive by buying the $2799 model.
2)It's not a pro machine for the price....it's built to be lighter, thinner, and sexier. Those qualities do not define "pro".
And to use it like PRO, you'll have to add that Belkin's or any other tb-dock, which is $400-500 more to have normal ports that PROs need (fw, ethernet, esata, etc.)
More ports? The retina has an an additional USB 3 port, an additional TB port and the HDMI port. It lacks FW800, Ethernet, and audio in. I call that a draw.
I just wish that some day Apple's tech will be so advanced, that they can just add features without taking old ones away.

Killing 17" and fake update on MP just show how much love Apple have for PROs...
Yeah, Finnish Apple Store does not even have refurbished section anymore, maybe because there was nothing ever when it still existed...
 
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Anyone have any clue what this will look like when hooked into a 27" thunderbolt display? I mean, will the display show everything huge since hidpi on a normal display = huge ass fonts.

I have a clue.

OSX is able to discern between HiPPI (aka 'Retina') and standard displays. So to answer your question, the output will look exactly the same as any other MacBook Pro plugged into a 27" thunderbolt display.

I already do this using Air Display with the New iPad. Everything on iPad is Retina, everything on the MBP main display is normal.

Now with that said - SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY APPLE.
 
I waited a while for this but after much thinking, I'm going to pass on it.

The fact that the ram and SSD drives aren't upgradeable is pretty much a non starter for me.

Add on top of that the cost and possible bugs, I'll wait for the next model.

How do you know the SSD isn't upgradable? The Air's is.
 
Is it going to be compatible with Thunderbolt retina in a future ??

I wonder if that new shiny 15.4" retina macbook pro for 2199$ will be compatible with a new 27" thunderbolt display (that will sooner or later arrive...) ??

I am considering buying a new 13 inch macbook pro 2.5Ghz DualCore i5 with 8gb RAM... Will that Intel HD Graphics 4000 be enough to use it with retina 27" external display when it becomes available ?? Is there a BTO option for 13" pro`s with NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory ??

I don't really care about a retina in a laptop. It is a 27" display that will look amazing with a retina ! So will a new macbook pro 13" be compatible ???
 
Taking away unnecessary features is the key to their design.

Exactly. But, Apple is clearly moving towards what large base of their consumers want. Most of the people that will end up buying this will just use it for everyday use, games, movies, browsing, etc.

But, by removing the Ethernet port and the optical drive, they are hurting the professionals that need that extra internet speed and optical drive for old projects or whatever they may have saved.

I'm not a professional but I can understand the frustration that some have with this new design.
 
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