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Can someone please explain the HDMI out? To me it makes almost no sense.

Edit: Because there are crap tons of morons on this site, why would Apple introduce HDMI on this macbook? Obviously it connects to TV's, I know 3 year olds who could have come up with a more clever response. Why HDMI and not Firewire or Mini DVI, is using an adapter too complicated now?

Second Edit: Your Retina Macbook Pro will have MORE pixels than your HD Tv, by a long shot, so why would I want less pixels and a (Much) larger screen? Convenience of hook up is not a reason either, by now you probably own a slew of adapters and cable options to connect your Mac to a HDTV.

You are silly. Hdmi makes sense for 99.99% of the users. Using FireWire or something else none of those people want and then use an adapter is silly. Ease of use is important. It is like you don't even comprehend your own words.
 
Some still use them

There's an external DVD drive available, which does the trick when you do need it once every 5 years. Besides, there're still MacBook Pro models with DVD drives built in, for those who absolutely must have it. DVDs are ridiculously outdated, a single SD card holds many times as much data.

I personally prefer SSD + HDD combo rather than DVD, which is what I have in my 2011 MBP. I'm running numerous VMs (several Windows and Linux virtual machines for software development at work), as well as editing a large amount of my photographs. It is cheaper this way, for the time being, than one enormous SSD.
 
"Where the Air is tapered, this has a constant thickness throughout."

Perfect! Love the Air, but I'm thrilled that the MBP remains "taperless"!:D

I think the taper is a bad design choice, I'm glad they decided to leave the form factor along and just shrink the thickness. The MacBook Pro and iPhone 4 are currently the nicest designs Johnny and his team have ever created.
 
No branding?

Does anyone know why there's no MacBook Pro branding at the bottom of the screen? It isn't there in the pictures on the Apple website either. :confused:
 
Just to confirm, flash memory and RAM are both soldered on in the new retina MBP, so forget DIY upgrades post purchase.

It seemed pretty obvious from looking at the components in the videos. Had it confirmed from Apple online in a chat conversation.

It's a bit annoying they don't make it absolutely clear from the configuration pages in the store.

Thanks for the legwork. That's a non-starter for me. 2200 dollars for a laptop with 256 GB. Yikes!
 
Thanks for the legwork. That's a non-starter for me. 2200 dollars for a laptop with 256 GB. Yikes!

Yea I'll wait for the price to come down, with the hardware they're giving you that's simply not worth the price imo.
 
Which is ridiculous. Planned obsolescence at its finest.

My current MacBook Pro is from 2007. Yes, five years old and still holding on. I've upgraded the stock RAM and replaced the stock 120 GB hard drive with a 750 GB one -- if I couldn't have done that, then I would probably have gotten frustrated and sold the laptop two or three years ago. Obviously that's exactly what Apple wants.

"Way back when", one used to be able to marvel at how long a Mac would last compared to its Wintel counterparts. I guess Apple realized that wasn't making them money.


While I still happily use my 2008 17" hi res Mbp every day I think their motivations are not that sinister. The biggest issue is likely space and design and a secondary issue of support. Planned obselensce is no higher than third and maybe lower than that.
 
I don't get it. No 11" or 13" MacBook Pro nor 11" or 13" MacBookAir even with an upgrade to a Retina screen? For those of us that travel, Apple has left us out of the loop. We new are forced to keep our old Mac's, buy a Mac that is to large and cumbersome to carry for months on end and 10,000's of thousands miles ... or consider stepping away from Apple totally. :(

"forced to keep your old mac"

Yeah i don't think apple is forcing you to do anything. if you followed the rumors this is pretty much what everyone expected.

Pretty much the most idiotic post i've seen today.
 
going to wait

Trying to subdue the Magpie reflex "Oooh, new shiny, faster etc. MBP/MBA..."

I'm very curious about the battery life differences with the retina display and without.

My 2010 iMac and current iPad work just fine so I'll stifle the magpie inside me squawking something fierce.
 
Okay I'm seriously missing something here.

The high-end rMBP upped to 16GB RAM is cheaper than the normal 15" MBP upped to 16GB RAM and the same 512GB SSD ... why is there complaining here? The rMBP seems amazing, and finally an HDMI too!
 
well the no ethernet and no FW800 are dealbreakers for me.
I really dont get why they have 2TB ports AND HDMI but not these regular ports?
I guess in Cupertino they think it is more common that folks will hook up to two external monitors rather than an ethernet patch cable.

A Thunderbolt port can be used for Thunderbolt, Firewire* and Ethernet*

But an Ethernet port can only be used for Ethernet...

*Adapter required
 
Just to confirm, flash memory and RAM are both soldered on in the new retina MBP, so forget DIY upgrades post purchase.

It seemed pretty obvious from looking at the components in the videos. Had it confirmed from Apple online in a chat conversation.

It's a bit annoying they don't make it absolutely clear from the configuration pages in the store.

Apple will always tell you the SSD is not upgradeable. THey say that for the macbook air. You won't actually know until someone tears it down.
 
Can someone please explain the HDMI out? To me it makes almost no sense.

Edit: Because there are crap tons of morons on this site, why would Apple introduce HDMI on this macbook? Obviously it connects to TV's, I know 3 year olds who could have come up with a more clever response. Why HDMI and not Firewire or Mini DVI, is using an adapter too complicated now?

Second Edit: Your Retina Macbook Pro will have MORE pixels than your HD Tv, by a long shot, so why would I want less pixels and a (Much) larger screen? Convenience of hook up is not a reason either, by now you probably own a slew of adapters and cable options to connect your Mac to a HDTV.


The majority of consumers use HDMI for most of their products now, it's simple to use, no one wants to plug in adapters etc.

It may have a higher resolution now, but with the 4K televisions on the horizon, it won't be higher, HDMI 1.4 has a maximum output resolution of 4096x2160, therefore a massive increase the already massive resolution of the new MacBook.

Your post is is utter nonsense.
 
Grrr what the hell is it with the glossy screens? I want MATTE, ANTI-GLARE, NON-GLOSSY. What's the point of having extra crisp typography when all you can see is the floor lamp behind you? :mad:
 
The only thing that sucks abut this option is the hard drive space.
So little for over 2k!
 
Glorified, overpriced 15" Macbook Air with 1YR warranty on all parts, including the RAM and SSD since its non-upgradeable. Retina screen is junk with a 1440 display. Its not a pro and glad they removed that (if its true). This is a disappointment to anyone actually paying attention. ALOT to give up to gain 3/16 of an inch in thinness.


People talking about the minimal amount of thickness reduction have no concept of proportion. It is like saying a 4'3" person is almost as tall as a 5'6" person.
 
Grrr what the hell is it with the glossy screens? I want MATTE, ANTI-GLARE, NON-GLOSSY. What's the point of having extra crisp typography when all you can see is the floor lamp behind you? :mad:

Apple have stated the new glossy screen has a 75% reduction in glare, i personally prefer the glossy screen, looks so smart.
 
Apple will always tell you the SSD is not upgradeable. THey say that for the macbook air. You won't actually know until someone tears it down.

It's soldered in. Period. It's not a stand-alone SATA pluggable SSD. Check the Keynote Videos.
 
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