You see, when everybody submits there app all at the same time, the approval line becomes very long. Apps in the app store that have push obviously submitted theirs earlier than IM people did.
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Early iPhone 3.0-Enabled Push Notification Apps
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You see, when everybody submits there app all at the same time, the approval line becomes very long. Apps in the app store that have push obviously submitted theirs earlier than IM people did.
To me, it seems a little bit silly that every single application update must be re-reviewed by Apple. Don't you think that at some point, Apple could convey a certain degree of trust to certain developers and enable them to push out updates in real time?
There should be some sort of process by which Apple certifies certain developers that have a history or releasing high quality apps--call it a "Gold Program", I don't care--and allow these developers to get their updates out in a timely way.
Not only would this be good for users and developers, but it would also free Apple's reviewers from having to review every single app update. Instead they could focus on reviewing new submissions with more scrutiny.
Ok, I do not agree with saying Apple is not at fault. When you post a major update like 3.0 it not only pertains to the phone itself but the Appstore. All those tiny little push apps that work like somebody else has stated do no require a lot of server space. What does require a lot of server space Aim apps. Now all the apps that are still under "review" that require a lot of server space are Aim apps. Now in a business sense if you market a program or a new major feature we should be able to use it right away, not wait. I contacted Beejive and they submited there application a week ago, now out of all the push apps don't you think there are a handful of heavy push server apps? I think it is another testiment that Apple promoted, marketed a program that still is yet to be fully functional and I would say 3.0 is a failure because not all of 3.0 can be used funtionally....
Been trying to get a push notification from any app... any! Quickpidgeon crashes, just as the Where are you? app, AP news? not one single push notification...
Does anyone have a method to test if any of the apps can actually push notifications? i'll just like to try it...
They said good things come to those who wait, but i believe we've waited long enough...
Does anyone have a method to test if any of the apps can actually push notifications? i'll just like to try it...
They said good things come to those who wait, but i believe we've waited long enough...
For those who don't believe in push problems from Apple side and from USA please test TextFree which supports push for recieving sms replies (both paid and free version). It would be interesting to know if this app is working as it is supposed to (some people say it isn't)
I hope a writer from this blog puts it out there that Push notification does not work, and Apple has not addressed the wait, the lack of notification of why Apps are still pending review. This is a good story, two days after 3.0 was released no push, no update on key apps. I believe somebody in that Cupertino base reads these blogs the more we raise awarness a bit the quicker we will get a response. A big F goes to the whole push dream we thought we would get from this update, we should have guess it would have gone this way with all the malfunctions they had demonstrating this update during WWDC. We were sold broken promises, almost makes me think how long can we wait for this function before we give up. Isn't it a year a whole YEAR overdue?
yep.. just install TextFree - you'll get a username@textfree.us email address, and you can send emails to it and it will push to your phone.
my textfree address is POE@textfree.us . anyone who doesn't believe push is working can feel free to send me a message on it and i'll respond from the phone
It doesn't matter, it's there - they probably don't list it there because the implementation is application specific. Just a guess. It works though I have only gotten one push message. Of course thats because I only have one Push application and that one application has only one push notice live. My guess is that more are on their way - Apple is probably trying to keep their servers alive for activation of the newer iPhones and 3.0 updates. Its only been out for a couple of days. I'm betting that the Push servers are just being warmed up.
I agree with you to a certain extent, let's say the reason for not allowing heavy push apps activated because of a new phone launch is the case don't you agree that it still not a good enough reason to allow us the users a chance to see what we paid for? I paid 15 bucks or whatever price for Beejive when it was first launched, my ability to recieve an update when a new firmware is introduced was taken away because of a new phone. That to me is fraud, they market the hell out of the AppStore, now to get the full value of the AppStore is to get updates in a timely manor when new updates are provided. I am sorry if you pay high prices for apps they should be updated specially since this 3.0 update effects these very high priced apps. It's like buying a steak but instead of getting a steak you get a burger because the steak wasn't cooked in time. Apple for the past year a whole 365 days have been promising all of us a new Push Notification system better then blackberry's and windows devices even making fun of such devices, but when promised we are let down. I'm this day an age of overpriced cell phone plans, phones, promised services we should be granted what we pay for in a timely matter. Sorry if I sound fustrated, but since I have been an early adopter of all iPhones, I give the excuse of it's a great phone in a promised early development stage that in time will be in a league of it's on. But what I truly should state we are paid fans of a dream phone that can be great, but never amounts to what is being marketed to us.
It's not even been a week yet and everybody's freakin' out on why [xxx app] doesn't have push. Updates take some time. That's true of any major update of any OS. You waited this long for push, what's another couple days?
Devs were actually given a lot of time to make sure their apps were 3.0 compatible and Apple wasn't even accepting apps if they didn't work on 3.0 for the last couple betas so you really should be bitching to the developer.
I downloaded Textfree Unlimited. It worked perfectly for a couple hours in the morning. Now the messages rarely gets pushed through. And if they do, it's very late. I have gotten probably over 20 pushes already. I dunno if this is apple's fault of the servers.. or Textfree...
Yeah, I have also seen several messages not Pushed through. It seems to me this whole "Push Notification" Is more of a Hit or miss kinda thing.
Sometimes it works, and you get lucky. Other times, your push doesn't come and well, that's it. I guess that's better than nothing at all, but if you've been waiting, buying and have high expectations for Apple, there shouldn't be any room for "Hit or Miss" Services.
And from what Ive seen, Either we are all just impatient, or Push Notification is alot less than we had excepted it to be.
Im hoping for the whole impatient theory myself.
Sometimes it works, and you get lucky. Other times, your push doesn't come and well, that's it. I guess that's better than nothing at all, but if you've been waiting, buying and have high expectations for Apple, there shouldn't be any room for "Hit or Miss" Services.
And from what Ive seen, Either we are all just impatient, or Push Notification is alot less than we had excepted it to be.
Im hoping for the whole impatient theory myself.
I'm just hoping that there are a hell of a lot of people doing it because its new, so maybe the servers are getting overloaded, but hopefully after a while, everything settles... I set my expectations too high...
If you think there are a lot of people trying the push network now, imagine when or if they allow the instant messaging apps to actually work, we will see probably a crash.....
After all this time Apple took for Push Notifications...
I can't understand those who think that Push delay is due to iPhone 3GS activations which overloaded Apple servers. Remember that we're talking about much less then 1million devices sold. And what is the number of iPhone OS users? Right - much much more. While activation is one time thing (one connection to activate - one response from the server) , the push notification is a huge load (imagine any IM app).
So I think that
1. those servers (who serve for activation & push) are not the same servers
2. problems with push (for NON-IM apps like TextFree) are confirmed muliple times
The questions is - do we have to wait untile 3.0.x is released or push problems are going to be fixed on the Apple side of things...
APPLE MAKE A STATMENT, DON'T ACT LIKE NOTHING IS GOING ON!
I can't understand those who think that Push delay is due to iPhone 3GS activations which overloaded Apple servers. Remember that we're talking about much less then 1million devices sold. And what is the number of iPhone OS users? Right - much much more. While activation is one time thing (one connection to activate - one response from the server) , the push notification is a huge load (imagine any IM app).
So I think that
1. those servers (who serve for activation & push) are not the same servers
2. problems with push (for NON-IM apps like TextFree) are confirmed muliple times
The questions is - do we have to wait untile 3.0.x is released or push problems are going to be fixed on the Apple side of things...
APPLE MAKE A STATMENT, DON'T ACT LIKE NOTHING IS GOING ON!
After all this time Apple took for Push Notifications...
I can't understand those who think that Push delay is due to iPhone 3GS activations which overloaded Apple servers. Remember that we're talking about much less then 1million devices sold. And what is the number of iPhone OS users? Right - much much more. While activation is one time thing (one connection to activate - one response from the server) , the push notification is a huge load (imagine any IM app).
So I think that
1. those servers (who serve for activation & push) are not the same servers
2. problems with push (for NON-IM apps like TextFree) are confirmed muliple times
The questions is - do we have to wait untile 3.0.x is released or push problems are going to be fixed on the Apple side of things...
APPLE MAKE A STATMENT, DON'T ACT LIKE NOTHING IS GOING ON!
Here is an article that was posted today about Push Notification on Apples site.. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3576
It's nice to see mentions of this technology on Apple's site
not that cool...
I think it is interesting they talk about Push now, lets talk about why aren't the key applications have not been approved yet. That is what I am really looking to see.
For what it's worth, I've been using the "Hey Where Are You" app with some friends and the push notifications work perfectly and are pretty instantaneous; much faster than actual text messages. At least the push service is working for these kinds of notifications. Not sure if an IM app would be any different, though...
It seems that Apple is working on getting the apps approved because I just had one of my apps got updated. It was DatingDNA. So maybe thats a positive sign?
I haven't got a Updated App in.. Well since Fly Fishing was updated which was the day of the 3.0 release. So that would be 3+ days of no updated apps. And I have, 9 pages of them... Either every single one of my App's don't need to be updated or Apple is slowing its roll on updating, or putting them into the "Later" Pile.
We will never really know. Apple won't make a statement, you know how they are, silent.
We will never really know. Apple won't make a statement, you know how they are, silent.
Facebook For 3.0!!!
Yeah, it seems to be showing up under my updates list, and in the app store, but either way the 'Free' price button is grayed out and so I can't download it.
Dang.
Yeah, it seems to be showing up under my updates list, and in the app store, but either way the 'Free' price button is grayed out and so I can't download it.
Dang.