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I can't get it to push, either. I actually created a yahoo account just yesterday when i saw that yahoo mail supported push while gmail did not.
Yahoo push has always worked for me (well, as much as push does -- which means anywhere from "fast" to "tens of minutes"). You do have push enabled in the iPhone, right?

(Although I have a yahoo account, I use gmail instead, as gmail has more useful features for me. For push, I use mobileme, although I'd probably use yahoo for push if I didn't have that -- but I only use push as a "you have important email" notification, and read email via gmail.)
 
Not to go too far OT here.... while I agree with the safety of speed limits being moot—eg I would much prefer someone paying attention going 90 than talking on their cell phone going the speed limit—you are quite wrong about going faster saves fuel. In most cars it's the opposite.

On a dyno, you attain the best fuel efficiency when the car is in its highest gear, turning its lowest rpm. I would wager the majority of cars are probably most efficient at around 45/50. Taking that back out to the street, you now have to overcome wind resistance and that starts becoming a serious factor when traveling higher speeds like 55/65.

Cars have improved in both departments since the '70s but saying modern cars can save fuel by speeding is absurd. If your car has a tach, verify this for yourself. Speed up to 65 then drop down to 55. If your car doesn't shift back down (if you're in an automatic), you're wasting fuel. That's mainly why driving w/ a manual tranny you'll likely get better gas mileage since you can control the shift points yourself. For example, in my Mini Cooper S in 6th gear, at 65 I'm around 3000 rpms... at 55, it's just below 2600 (iirc, I'd have to verify but give/take a few rpms).

If you want to speed, fine, but know you don't get better mileage and you probably won't save time speeding in town. I've gotten my fair share of tickets as well until I realized what's the point. Unless you're going on a multistate trip, the time saved you can usually count on 2 hands, measured in seconds.

Well I do drive a manual, but in every car I've ever owned (automatic or manual), the current mpg rating on the computer has been higher at 65 than at 55. RPMs are not perfectly directly proportionate to your fuel economy, it's close but not perfect. You are right about the best economy being in the 40-50 range, but on the highway I can tell you from experience I do better fuel economy at 65 than at 55.

As far as speeding goes, I was mainly talking about the highway. When in towns speeding can be and often is dangerous, as well as very diminishing to your fuel economy as the increased acceleration and deceleration uses a lot of fuel. But on the highway, I can assure you that in all of my cars 65 is better on fuel than 55. And I could only assume that you'd be in the same boat as you drive a BMW, and in both BMWs my family and I have owned the fuel economy was better at 65. As it is in all the VWs and Benzes we've owned as well as a whole. Maybe it's because they're german cars designed to be as efficient as possible on the highway and at speeds well above American speed limits, but I can honestly truly say that my fuel economy is better at 65 than at 55.

As a side note, I know technically "speeding" is doing over the speed limit. But I live on Long Island where there's practically a 10-15 mph grace range with the police (depending on what county and is you're in a town or on the highway), so I don't really consider 65-70 on the highway "speeding". "Speeding" for us is going at speeds higher than the 75-80 range on the highway.

On topic, can anyone confirm anymore 3.0 featured apps?
 
I wish Apple had more options for push e-mail. The only thing you get is a ding and/or vibrate depending on your options and that's it. It would be nice to able to let you display part of the message like you would an SMS message and being able to directly reply to it. I imagine AT&T had something to say about this—since doing this would unsurp some demand for SMS.

I looked into writing an app like this for your own domain name that would let you choose which e-mails get pushed to your phone and which ones don't get pushed (spam for example). And also let you choose what gets displayed on the iPhone—for example, e-mails that come from your boss or friends could come in like SMS messages letting you preview them and then reply to them while others just arrive with no notification at all. That's easy enough to implement on a linux server with some scripting, procmail, or mailfilter, etc.

The problem comes with push notifications, at least form a developer's point of view, is everything has to go coordinate through your own server and then Apple's push server. That's easy enough if you're only handling your own notifications but if you have to handle a every user's e-mail becomes a real privacy nightmare. I believe there's workarounds for this but you don't exactly want to give other users your API key for notifications since that could potentially open the door to spammers pushing notifications to your system, etc.

I believe Snow Leopard Server is going to be able to talk directly to provisioned iPhones which would make this actually work. Then maybe once the open source community gets their hands on this setup they'll be able to emulate a push from a non Snow Leopard server, bypassing Apple entirely. That would be absolutely awesome.... like your own Blackberry BES.
 
I wish Apple had more options on MobileMe/Yahoo for push e-mail. The only thing you get is a ding and/or vibrate depending on your options and that's it. It would be nice to able to let you display part of the message like you would an SMS message and being able to directly reply to it. I imagine AT&T had something to say about this—since doing this would unsurp some demand for SMS.

I looked into writing an app like this for your own domain name that would let you choose which e-mails get pushed to your phone and which ones don't get pushed (spam for example). And also let you choose what gets displayed on the iPhone—for example, e-mails that come from your boss or friends could come in like SMS messages letting you preview them and then reply to them while others just arrive with no notification at all. That's easy enough to implement on a linux server with some scripting, procmail, or mailfilter, etc.

The problem comes with push notifications, at least form a developer's point of view, is everything has to go coordinate through your own server and then Apple's push server. That's easy enough if you're only handling your own notifications but if you have to handle a every user's e-mail becomes a real privacy nightmare. I believe there's workarounds for this but you don't exactly want to give other users your API key for notifications since that could potentially open the door to spammers pushing notifications to your system, etc.

I believe Snow Leopard Server is going to be able to talk directly to provisioned iPhones which would make this actually work. Then maybe once the open source community gets their hands on this setup they'll be able to emulate a push from a non Snow Leopard server, bypassing Apple entirely.

Is it possible to have a reply box in the popup notifications or does the OS not allow that type of programming?
 
Firstly, sorry for this getting dragged off topic. Wasn't the intention, I was just having a little dig at people who drive well over the speed limit when realistically the time savings are miniscule unless you are on a motorway in the middle of nowhere with no other road users. I drive, cycle and walk regularly but I live in a city (London) where all types of road user are in very close proximity and the bad car drivers really are a danger to all, no matter how in control they think they are. Your situation may be different.

Now: where's my skype and gtalk with push?!
 
Firstly, sorry for this getting dragged off topic. Wasn't the intention, I was just having a little dig at people who drive well over the speed limit when realistically the time savings are miniscule unless you are on a motorway in the middle of nowhere with no other road users. I drive, cycle and walk regularly but I live in a city (London) where all types of road user are in very close proximity and the bad car drivers really are a danger to all, no matter how in control they think they are. Your situation may be different.

Now: where's my skype and gtalk with push?!

Different countries, different lifestyles. In the New York City/Long Island area we live in a very fast paced society where like I said, in many areas there's a 10-15 mph grace range where your speed is not considered speeding, even though it's over the speed limit.

The new and noteworthy hasn't been updated since yesterday so I'm assuming not much has gone through approval yet.
 
Aremysitesup does not have push in the current version. There was a bug so it will not be in until the next version which apple has now.

Just for the record.

I had been looking like an app for this though, so I will wait the week out, and I already got the service.
 
Is it possible to have a reply box in the popup notifications or does the OS not allow that type of programming?
Yeh, last time I checked the developer docs, you can name the action button whatever you want and assign an action to them as well as brand the application with a number badge. I'd imagine most AIM apps will do this.

Speaking of that, I think the other limitation I bumped into with that setup I mentioned above is unless you write your own e-mail client, I don't think there's a way to tell Mail which message you want to view straight out of the gate—partly because the message may have not even received by Mail yet.
 
Yeh, last time I checked the developer docs, you can name the buttons whatever you want and assign an action to them as well as brand the application with an icon. I'd imagine most AIM apps will do this.

Speaking of that, I think the other limitation I bumped into with that setup I mentioned above is unless you write your own e-mail client, I don't think there's a way to tell Mail which message you want to view straight out of the gate—partly because the message may have not even received by Mail yet.

So you're saying it's possible that, let's say for instance I'm browsing safari and I get an IM, I could reply in that popup box, rather than have to exit safari, pop open my IM client, reply, then exit my IM client, and reopen safari?

That's excellent.
 
Am I the only person really excited/anxious for someone to develop/release an app that keeps track of where speed traps and cops sit on highways and then sends me push notifications when my GPS (in the iPhone) says I'm getting close to one of those points. The points could be verified by multiple people "tagging" the location as a speed trap or a hot spot. I think this has HUGE potential, anyone else with me?

Someone want to develop it with me? I've never developed for iPhone, but would be 100% game to collab on this if someone wants to help.

Not sure push would be help for this specifically because it require that the server for the app had your gps information on an updating basis, and push is a one way thing. So for this to work you would need to keep the application running, which means you would not need push anyways.
 
Speed limits are far too low for me to ever consider going anywhere close to them. Once speed limits hit 90 on the interstate and 70-80 elsewhere, i won't be following.. ever.

I hope the car crash that takes your life is against an inanimate object and not involving someone else.

Also please never drive with anyone in your car.
 
Well, yes, but girlxfridayx appears to be asking about the 2.0 push mail features.

Actually, I was referring to the os 3.0 and push features. I guess I didnt realize that push had been available on 2.0 for yahoo mail, but I had expected it to come to gmail with 3.0 and when I saw that it didnt, i looked elsewhere. My expectations for yahoo push were that i would receive my push notifications in real time as the mail comes in, but that has not been my experience. Even on yahoo's website it indicates that push to iphone means yahoo mail in realtime. Yes I do have push enabled on my iphone.

In response to illegalprelude, no, I am not saying yahoo mail is better than gmail, I much prefer gmail, but would like the option of a push email because my boyfriend doesnt have a text package and we email back and forth as an alternative. I want to keep gmail as my main email, right now I have it fetch every 15 mins which isnt too bad, but push would be better.
 
So you're saying it's possible that, let's say for instance I'm browsing safari and I get an IM, I could reply in that popup box, rather than have to exit safari, pop open my IM client, reply, then exit my IM client, and reopen safari?
I think I misunderstood you? A reply box as in a text box for input? No, you only get buttons, at least so far. Basically in that scenario, you'd hit reply, Safari would suspend, and your aim app would launch and display the message where you could reply to it. So you would still need to hit the home button and click to switch back to Safari. So slightly less work actually replying....
 
My expectations for yahoo push were that i would receive my push notifications in real time as the mail comes in, but that has not been my experience.
Well, I have gotten near "real time" notification in the past, as well as "glacial" notification. A quick test right now shows about a one-minute delay for me.

I'm sure you did this, as it's difficult not to, but just to be sure: on the iPhone, you did set up yahoo mail as a "Yahoo mail" account, and not as a pop3 account, right?
 
I hope the car crash that takes your life is against an inanimate object and not involving someone else.

Also please never drive with anyone in your car.

I hate to jump off topic again, but dude, seriously, that's not only a terrible thing to say, but that's bad karma as well. I never wish harm upon anybody. I've actually been known to, after I've been cut off, yell at the person, call them names, and then wish them a safe trip home.

Still no IM clients with push yet. On the other hand, the geo tagging in Shazam is pretty sweet. As well, when recording, Shazam responds to the beat of the music.
 

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I want to keep gmail as my main email, right now I have it fetch every 15 mins which isnt too bad, but push would be better.
If you're not planning on using google contacts or calendar on your iPhone, you can use mail2web as an alternative free push service. (The issue here is that the iPhone only allows the use of one exchange-based service, and both google and mail2web are exchange-based services.)

Also, if you don't mind having multiple email accounts and doing a little tedious setup, it's possible to keep gmail as your main account, but use the push mail service only as a "you have new email" alarm. You can also set things up to only push "important" messages, like those from your boyfriend. The downsides here are (1) there's some tedious setup, (2) you have remember to read/send email from your gmail account, and (3) you have to manually delete messages from your push email account. The upside is that you get to keep your gmail account, and that's the only email address that you have to hand out. If you have insomnia, the details are here:
 
I find it amusing apple hasn't let loose the updated apps that will actually test its push servers (such as beejiveIM, which has been ready for a while it seems). Hopefully it comes soon. I look at the list that is enabled and I dont see anything particularly popular as IM apps :D
 
Speaking of IM apps, has Meebo announced when its app will be available? All I had read was "when 3.0 is out" ...

Someone posted yesterday somewhere, and I didn't search for it now so forgive me, but they said (and this is second hand now) that they contacted Meebo, and they said it would be later this year... That makes me really sad too.
 
I find it amusing apple hasn't let loose the updated apps that will actually test its push servers (such as beejiveIM, which has been ready for a while it seems). Hopefully it comes soon. I look at the list that is enabled and I dont see anything particularly popular as IM apps :D

 has to approve a ton of 3.0 apps. If that was the case Textfree would not have been one of the first apps considering that app has been on the top 25 forever and is less than half the price of Beejive. They'll be coming soon. My only question is if some of these developers implement it well.
 
If you're not planning on using google contacts or calendar on your iPhone, you can use mail2web as an alternative free push service. (The issue here is that the iPhone only allows the use of one exchange-based service, and both google and mail2web are exchange-based services.)

Also, if you don't mind having multiple email accounts and doing a little tedious setup, it's possible to keep gmail as your main account, but use the push mail service only as a "you have new email" alarm. You can also set things up to only push "important" messages, like those from your boyfriend. The downsides here are (1) there's some tedious setup, (2) you have remember to read/send email from your gmail account, and (3) you have to manually delete messages from your push email account. The upside is that you get to keep your gmail account, and that's the only email address that you have to hand out. If you have insomnia, the details are here:


Amazingly enough, after changing nothing, yahoo push is now working. I had been testing it out randomly ever since I downloaded the OS yesterday and it hadnt worked even once. Now its near instantaneous! No idea why it wasnt working before. Thanks for all the ideas though :), i was about to look into downloading mail2web when I thought id give it one more chance... I might still look into that way to keep gmail as my main account, sounds like it would be good, if i ever have the time to figure it out
 
Umm... Is anybody else having problems with their regular push MobileMe e-mail. It's alsways worked perfect for me, but I just noticed it just stopped working... Ans It won't even let me send e-mails either... Internets working fine though... I have a bad feeling about this

keeps says The connection to the outgoing server "smtp.mac.com" failed. additional Outgoing Mail Servers can be configured in Settings>Mail, Contacts and Calendars

It seams to be receiving e-mails fine now, but absolutely won't send anything and that message keeps poking up??
 
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