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Early iPhone 7 Case Has No Headphone Jack and Stereo Speaker Cutouts
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The cables have a purpose but the reasoning for using them is what interests me. Why use an Ethernet cable when you have wifi? Wtf device that's currently used even has a 30 pin connector? EtcIt's pretty self explanatory.....
I would've thought that line of thinking was pretty self explanatory.
Ethernet is still extensively used when using high bandwidth transfers. I use video a lot and transferring over gigabit ethernet is a heck of a lot quicker than wifi. It's also more reliable too. I also have a job and work in big offices and while there is wifi, ethernet is the preferred option as wifi is not robust enough. It's also necessary for configuring hardware so it's very important to have the adapter.
The 30 pin adapters are necessary for docking stations connected to a set of iHome speakers which I use all the time. I spent over US$250 so I'm not going to chuck them away because Apple decided to change their adapter. It's 4 years old and works just as well as the day I bought it. It also charges my iPhone at night. I guess I'm not as frivolous as others. And there's also my wife's VW which needs an adapter to connect her phone to her car. It was also necessary for my car until I retrofitted BT audio.
While I accept the lightning adapter is fine as it genuinely brought improvements to the design and I do find it irritating Apple chose to remove Ethernet from their laptops, I find it really sodding annoying they choose to remove another adapter. This whole nonsense is all about making money and it's getting really bloody annoying.
There you go. Your "WTF" moment has been resolved.
iPhone 5 at least in terms of aesthetics and design was like the iPhone 4, with exception of being thinner and having a larger screen. The design of the iPhone 5 was same as the iPhone 4.
They were quite different. The 4 has a glass back and the "exoskeleton" antennas. The 5 has an aluminum body, glass "windows" for the antennas, and the (in)famous "chamfered edges". IMO the 4 has probably the most beautiful design yet, with the 5 a close second (and more practical).
A 4 like design with Sapphire front and back and liquid-metal side band, will be both beautify and strong.
So, let's just assume for a moment that the jack is gone, and I get a Rode iXY mic with the appropriate lightning connector for recording (and if anyone wants to send me the dosh for it, I'll give you my address) ....so where do I plug in my headphones to monitor? Anyone know any bluetooth monitor-quality phones? My Sonys are what I'm using now - but if BT is the way I have to go, which model, and how many nights of stone soup does it cost?
I use an ethernet cable because the transfer rates are higher (1Gb/s versus the 300Mb/s from wifi), and quite often the environments I work in don't have any network let alone wifi as I'm part of the team setting things up from scratch. Everyone has there own needs, and wifi is great when it's available but you can't assume it always is.
I've also found adaptors tend to work loose when the ports have been used a lot. RJ45 connectors don't as they have a clip. This is extremely important when you are configuring devices that cost a lot of money - you would look like a complete tool if you trashed it because your ethernet adaptor fell out while doing something important, not to mention that it would be the end of your job.
Yes, they are different, but they both carry the same design language. They both have the same round volume buttons and they both have the flat chamfered edges. So they are different, but very much the same idea went into the design.
Presumably we will start seeing, maybe even on day one, splitters/hubs? I don't think the demand for a wired input/output method for audio is going to go away, so we are likely to see new products released.
Yeah. I know people in IT that say they have to be hard wired into Internet for a multitude of reasons. Kinda sucks for them...
Unfortunately people that have needs like this are seen by Apple as a small subset of people and that the majority don't need to use cables. I think we're moving towards a future where 10 years from now the idea of plugging ANYTHING into a phone or iPad will seem weird. Like "wait a second. You used to literally plug things INTO your phone? Why?! My iPhone didn't even come with a cable!"
I can imagine it'll be similar to Steve jobs car vs truck analogy in reference to tablets and full on pc 's. That analogy is so malleable i think it can work to describe the thinking process of how we will be years down the line (a good separator of product uses) That someday most people will do EVERYTHING wirelessly and the people that need to plug in will be seen as people that need to do it for specific work related purposes
By then...Jesus Christ. I get a little excited in my pants thinking what an iPad or iPhone would be like 10 years from now when we've only had iPads for half that time
While you do have a valid point of Lightning not being a standard. I did mention (but you cut out of the quote) the possibility of Apple maybe making it a standard or moving to USB-C (eventually) or maybe a new port emerging as a standard for all once focus is placed in that area. Nothing will ever get done though if change is never invoked.
About HDMI and video moving from analog to digital. Yes, again valid point of they are standards and not proprietary. However though there are still non standards within what HDMI brings. Look at the most current situation of 4K. At first 2.0 was good enough and companies released "4K compatible" devices, then things changed and suddenly 2.0a was now required to accommodate HDR. Now some early consumers are stuck with a device not capable of 4K with HDR (some can be firmware updated but some can't) without a converter of some sort (an adapter) or buying all new gear. And now the latest thing on top all that is there isn't even one standard for HDR. You have HDR10 and Dolby Vision. Some 2015/2016 TV's can do HDR10 but not Dolby Vision, and vice versa, and some can do both.
So EVEN with a standard HDMI cable/port you still can't escape fragmenting when new changes happen.
Which is why Lightning isn't a big deal. It may sting in the beginning for some, but in the end the whole idea behind the change will get to where it needs to be in time. Just how every major change to something or dropping of legacy in the end always works out for the best.
this is the point Apple have forgotten what was their core user base. Just wait until they are no longer cool. I'll be shorting their shares like crazy.
I don't think apple is going to lose a ton of business and become irrelevant because a few people had to use adapters for their special case scenarios
Not in the short-term, but their approach to users who invest in their products will catch them out in the long-term. They are too willing to sacrifice useful technology just to make things look cool.
Can you name a situation where Apple has made a decision and the market has reacted by not buying their products? Seems like they know what they're doing. I heard all the same talk when they introduced the first MacBook Air without an optical drive. People called them crazy "I've invested so much into cd's! How could apple do this?"
Same deal.
You sound like the people who argued against Apple removing disc drives from their Macs..
Now it's assumed your portable computer won't have a decade old technology.
The headphone jack is long over due. The world is moving toward bluetooth and wireless, and for those legacy needs you'll have an adapter just like you have for your ethernet port or external disc drive for the rare occasion.
The headphone jack is probably the oldest standard still in mobile phones and quite frankly you'll see other phones get rid of it after Apple does.
Check on this thread in a year or so, history won't be kind to your view.
Removing as 3.5mm jack may prove to be different. It's a standard that's too established that doesn't need changing.
I agree Apple do know what they are doing - they are concentrating purely on the consumer and forgetting the professional market place. Just look in their retails stores to see the Post PC era in full swing. The reaction to this is already happening, I see it every day. More and more surface pro's used by my colleagues who did have MacBook Airs. Also a lot more Dell Precisions and XPS's where Macbook Pros used to be.
Apple's hardware strategy is from what I can see driving quite a few business users away. Concentrating on consumers is all well and good and has made them rich. Consumers are very fickle though and an change platform at the drop of a hat, business users tend to be more measured and take time to switch. I think their current hardware strategy is dreadful for business users - there's no roadmap and products are arriving much later than their competitors. Dell, Lenovo and HP have all released their new high-end laptops with unto 32 or 64GB RAM, TB3, etc. This happened months ago. Where are Apple's products? I need a new laptop now, but Apple don't make one I want. Dell do. I'll wait a bit longer to see what Apple do as I prefer OS X, but if I'm forced onto a Windows laptop, then I'll be selling my nMP and going back to a windows desktop too. Then I probably won't get another iPhone.
This for me is more than apple removing a 3.5mm jack, or bringing in a new standard, its about their ever diminishing hardware choices and lack of interest in anything other than mobile phones, tables and low-end computing hardware.
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Okay, why does it need changing? Please enlighten me...
I agree with you on macs. They should come with a big update regarding their MacBook and MacBook Pro lines.
MacBook needs more powerful hw.
MacBook Pro needs to have the same look as the MacBook but a little bit fatter to allow for the latest hw.
In June they will release updated MacBooks.
The iMac and Mac Pro ' s need updates too.
For the headphone jack... I don' t care if that is removed. I don' t like too much connections and wires, but Apple has to come up with a very good alternative. If a free adapter is included I wouldn' t mind.
But it seems Apple is rather quiet , too quiet, if you ask me.
There is something going on..
I am really hoping for a iOS pro or PadOS . Something entirely new. A more powerful and flexible , business oriented OS for the iPad Pro' s. With better keyboard(and perhaps trackpad) support, simple filemanagement, more multitasking/window support, and multi account support .
Apple seems to have better control of security lately, though.
The only leaks we are seeing is from case manufacturers. Nothing else.
No hw leaks of the se en air3/pro. No leaks of the watch 2.0, MacBooks , etc.
A little bit boring... But an opportunity to surprise us !
MacBook needs more powerful hw.
MacBook Pro needs to have the same look as the MacBook but a little bit fatter to allow for the latest hw.
In June they will release updated MacBooks.
The iMac and Mac Pro ' s need updates too.
For the headphone jack... I don' t care if that is removed. I don' t like too much connections and wires, but Apple has to come up with a very good alternative. If a free adapter is included I wouldn' t mind.
But it seems Apple is rather quiet , too quiet, if you ask me.
There is something going on..
I am really hoping for a iOS pro or PadOS . Something entirely new. A more powerful and flexible , business oriented OS for the iPad Pro' s. With better keyboard(and perhaps trackpad) support, simple filemanagement, more multitasking/window support, and multi account support .
Apple seems to have better control of security lately, though.
The only leaks we are seeing is from case manufacturers. Nothing else.
No hw leaks of the se en air3/pro. No leaks of the watch 2.0, MacBooks , etc.
A little bit boring... But an opportunity to surprise us !
I'd love to see the sales figures on the new MacBook compared to that they internally projected and against the other products in their lineup.
Or sales for the Apple Watch.
Or that crappy battery case that was released and quietly ignored last summer.
It's an overreaction to make the litmus test be 'the market doesn't buy their products'. Apple has reached the place where they can made minimal changes and still sell millions phones to people who are ready to upgrade their 2-3 year old phone.
But there is a legitimate question of buyer satisfaction and will there be any long impact to sales. If you go to the MacBook forum, there is a steady stream of threads from people who seem lukewarm about their purchase...but trying to put a positive spin on it.
Apple can get away with that on the MacBook. It's a niche product that was largely bought by early adopters. But the iPhone sales are their bread and butter. It drives the lion's share of profit. It's gotten to the point where Apple relies on annual sales in hundreds of countries to keep feeding the monster. Share value isn't going to be impacted by less than expected Apple Watch or MacBook sales. It'll get spooked by iPhone sales not meeting expectations.
Forcing that entire worldwide customer base into a new standard seems like a big risk. Apple's base has grown well beyond tech savvy 18-35 year from first world countries. You're pushing this change on kids, seniors, other countries whose customers may not be as willing to pump endless dollars into adapters and new bluetooth headphones or accessories.
But some folks will always believe 'Apple knows best'....even though Tim Cook's record is a mixed bag (being generous) at implementing new products or major product updates. His only 'home run' is the bigger iPhone....which was simply giving customers the larger phone competitors had been selling for years.
why does the MacBook Pro need the same look as the MacBook? To me, the MBP looks and feels like a sleek, well built machine, while the MB looks and feels like cheap junk.
To me, the two most important criteria in picking a laptop are the keyboard and screen in that order. One of the reasons I started buying powerbooks back in 1999 was their keyboards were far better than anything I could find in a windows machine, even in that high price range. That has held true to this day. The keyboard in the MB is absolute garbage, and for that reason alone, I would never buy a machine like that.
You want the MB to have more powerful hardware, and the MBP to be a copycat MB with slightly faster CPU/GPU/Retina that is only slightly thicker? Both those machines would be trash to me, and why would Apple make 2 low end lines so similar and abandon the higher end line?
I would rather go the other way. The reason I haven't replaced my 2011 MBP is that I'm not willing to give up my 2 industry standard drive bays. The ethernet jack is also a huge plus for me. It cost me $75 to install 16 gig of memory back in 2011 and currently has a 512 gig SSD and 1TB spinning drive. To buy the machine I want today (16 gig/512 gig SSD) is stupidly expensive with Apple's upgrade fees and not really much better than my 2011 thanks to Apple's emphasis on smaller over better. About the only thing I'm missing is USB 3.
If my computer broker tomorrow, I'd buy a used 2012 model for $850 and throw in the memory and SSD. And I'm someone who has never bought a used tech item in my life. But the 2012 model is just so much better than anything Apple makes today and Apple just gets worse year after year.
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Yeah, kinda sucks for people who know computers and really need them for pro enterprise applications. But it sure is great for kiddies to access facebook.
You have to wonder how long Apple will be able to keep selling computers to the masses when the IT pros they turn to for help, support, and buying advice sour on Apple. I know I've talked a lot of people into buying macs over the years, though none since 2011. Now my advice is don't buy mac. The last person who bought a mac on my advice bought it for transcription work and she loved it. Until the hard drive failed 6 months in. They replaced it under warranty, replaced her Lion with Mountain Lion, and "upgraded" her to the new gimped iWorks. The new Word was useless for her transcriptions, she spent hours with the "geniuses" who told her she could no longer install the old versions. She ended up buying office for Mac. Then she had endless problems with the new OS (for example nobody told her about gatekeeper and she couldn't get the audio transcription software to run), but it was one thing after another. "It just works" my ass. She ended up selling the Mac before it hit 1 year and buying a windows machine. Between actually paying for iWork before the free gimped version and then paying for a full version of Office for Mac, she lost a fortune on the deal. And to this day she thinks I don't know anything about computers because I'm dumb enough to use Macs.
It makes it funny thought when you see articles every few months about Apple trying to make it into the enterprise and all the fanatics scratching their heads wondering why companies won't buy macs and then blaming the "bean counters" who don't know a good modern computer from an abacus as long as the abacus is cheaper.
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Yes, and where is the serial port!
Sjeez! Come on Apple! Lol!
About the MacBook , I like the design and the materials used and build quality. If they could make a 15 inch, with pro hardware in it, I' ll love it.
Just personal taste , I guess.
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That's your takeaway from that? You equate the usefulness of a serial port in 2016 to the usefulness of a USB3 port, Ethernet port, DisplayPort, and SD slot combined? You think all 4 of those ports combined are collectively as obsolete as serial port?
Do you believe Apple removed the USB3 port from the MB because they believe the port is too obsolete to use?
Do you even believe what you're typing or are you just trolling?
Trolling?
It is all about how you use your laptop.
There is a USB c connector. I just use it for charging, and if I were to use it for connecting other stuff, I would buy an adapter.
I was referring to lan connector and optical drives. SD card reader, why? Modern camera' s have the ability to upload foto' s through wifi.
I am with you on the ability to hook up a big monitor without the adapter.
But trolling, no...
It is just what I need and want, my personal preferences. No need to feel offended. But optical drives in a modern laptop ? Really ?