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Early Mac OS X Leopard Notes and Observations

Once more

I felt a little stiffed by Apple with the iPhone (hey, thanks for the $100 voucher so i can spend MORE money on you) and now this OS. I simply must stop early adopting.

I've tried 3 times now to install and finally made it through on the 3rd time to the very end. Now, I'm sitting here on "About a minute" and have been for "About an hour".

Considering this is such a minor update, I wish I hadn't done this.
 
Reborn A Mac said:
I hate to see that the functionality to backup using TimeMachine over the Airport Extreme (N) Base Station was dropped from the final release. I think this is an integral feature for laptop users like myself. Without being able to complete incremental backup via Airport 3/4 of the power of TimeMachine is wasted for laptop users.
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Especially when you consider that laptops are a booming sector for apple and now we all have to plug in somewhere. This has to be updated in a software update.
 
CJD2112 said:
...and who's trying to update Leopard now? Um, wasn't it just released (and in some cases still not)?
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It's been available for hours. It seems pretty odd not to have software update working on launch day, they must be aware that other time zones are hours ahead, and that fedex would be delivering it way earlier in the day than 6 PM.
 
jecapaga said:
Especially when you consider that laptops are a booming sector for apple and now we all have to plug in somewhere. This has to be updated in a software update.
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My copy is coming in a few minutes, but I have already left feedback for Apple regarding this issue on the feedback section of their website.

It is disappointing indeed!

--HG
 
Fastshutter said:
On top of that, Apple will never gain market share if people perceive that it can't work well with Windows. Just look at how successful they were for adding bootcamp, and how important MS Office for OSX is. This graphic makes me think that Apple can't work well with windows if windows drives always appear as broken in the UI. If Apple took the high road and showed how well windows works with OSX they would be much better off.
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Sometimes it's really hard for even Apple to take the high road when MS does everything to jack Apple's customers as much as possible. Sometimes I get totally annoyed at some posters who will defend Windows as if it's some poor old OS that can't afford jabbing.

Time through time Mac users get thrown in the face that Macs are useless, they have under 10% market share, Windows is superior and dominant and there's no place for Macs in the business world. Well MS helps that argument by ditching important features in Mac Office so Windows continues to dominate the corporate world. MS tells their employees to dump iPods into the trash and post pics on the web about it.
Now posters are complaining about a PC graphic joke in Coverflow??
Apple on the other hand continues to show that there is room for both OS X and Windows OS's in both business and the home market.

It's truly MS that creates this friendly hatred between Macs and PC's.
 
I hope so too. If it wasnt for me being at work, I would already have Leopard installed. The box is pretty tho. I had it at 10.15am this morning at my desk. So nice!
 
This is so damn fast I love it. This 2.8GHz iMac actually feels like 2.8GHz now.
 
giraffe6044 said:
Check out what happens when you browse your network filled with windows shares

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Did Leopard cause those or where they like that before?
 
HLdan said:
Sometimes it's really hard for even Apple to take the high road when MS does everything to jack Apple's customers as much as possible. Sometimes I get totally annoyed at some posters who will defend Windows as if it's some poor old OS that can't afford jabbing.

Time through time Mac users get thrown in the face that Macs are useless, they have under 10% market share, Windows is superior and dominant and there's no place for Macs in the business world. Well MS helps that argument by ditching important features in Mac Office so Windows continues to dominate the corporate world. MS tells their employees to dump iPods into the trash and post pics on the web about it.
Now posters are complaining about a PC graphic joke in Coverflow??
Apple on the other hand continues to show that there is room for both OS X and Windows OS's in both business and the home market.

It's truly MS that creates this friendly hatred between Macs and PC's.
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Oh you mean like when people on this forum ruthlessly defend ANY Apple product, regardless of how severe the issue is? I forgot that MS no longer supports Apple and Unix protocols.
 
JPT said:
May I be an even bigger n00b and ask "How is this achieved?" :p
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Go into you system preferences, in Tiger you enable it via sharing, in Leopard I am not sure but I think it is under network (in system preferences)

Select the drive or folder on that machine and you are now sharing the device or folder.

Then go to the finder and select go to server (at work dont have my system), you should be able to map to the drive on that system.
 
Question for Leopard TM experts

If your current TM backup disk is getting low in space and you want to switch to a new larger drive, can you plug both and then move / copy the top level directory in the "old" TM drive?

I would prefer not to loose old stuff, prefer to get them moved.
 
I like how the only features removed were the ones I was looking forward to.
May not apply to everyone, but I am a science student that does a lot of web research and photo work in my spare time, and game...so I use my computer for lots of things.

timemachine: I already do my own backups. Its really easy. if I could do them over the air that would be something new and worth money. I also dont delete things if I think it might be useful later. I just put it in a junk folder to throw away in a month or two.

NSF: gone. now I have to have another big harddrive.

sync notes to iphone: gone. is this really hard to program or something? I mean, sync to stickies. thats it. they are text files.

OS switching: gone.

ichat effects: seeing as no one I know video chats, I was hoping to amuse myself. now tehy are gone.

eye candy/spaces: it all looks distracting to me, and useless. 3d icons I can't manipulate? transparent windows with reflections? this is worse than widgets! (which is at least useful for some people I know). If I need a new "space" I just hide the programs.

stacks: my stuffs already organized, but it would be nice to not have a window pop up when I click a dock folder.

coverflow/quick look: sorry, my files are already named appropriately so i dont have to open them to see if its what I want. Spotlight finds anything more specific. Coverflow is fine when I am mucking with music, but for searching for a file? too slow.

pretty much anything useful was removed from the OS. and how come I can't use bluetooth on my iphone to control my mac? salling could do it. They need some new ideas over there. I havent seen anything awesome in the OS since spotlight and expose.

I'll be holding off on this one.
 
Very sluggish on a slow machine

Installed on on iMac G4 (1ghz w/ 768 mb RAM). Safari and mail ran great but the dock was jumpy and all graphics were very sluggish (compared to 10.4.10).

As a side note iChat (from iLife 08) would not recognize the USB camera even though the Leopard iChat specs indicate it would recognize USB cameras. The third party USB camera enabler iChatUSBCam has now been updated to 2.2.2 specificaly for Leopard.
 
lazyrighteye said:
Maybe I will have to see it in action, or maybe my IM habits are abnormal, but I don't use people's names when iChatting.

"Thanks for sharing that clip on YouTube, Randy."
"It's one of my favs, Bill."

??

Again, might need to see in action.
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I think it's intended more for people who are in group chats. If you have 10 people talking back and forth about different topics, you could potentially miss what someone said to you. In a group chat you do tend to include the name of the buddy your message is intended for.

My name being "Mark", a few weeks back (on the latest Developer build I have), I tried playing around with different ways to see if I could trick it into highlighting an instance of my name that was really just the word "mark" as in the sense of a punctuation mark, etc.

There seems to be a good deal of thought put into it, as I don't think it would highlight Mark if I said the phrase "punctuation Mark", even if it was capitalized...
 
swagi said:
Yeah, brilliant. Will please the Mac fanboys, but will definitely not help in the enterprise market.

I mean, come on, as an insider joke in the devloper build it was funny, but maybe they should've just added some default Win XP/Vista logo. Heck, even a stupid wooden window wouldn't be that embarassing.
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If the company allows people to plug-in their own machine and or test new operating systems in the company production network, then I do not feel sorry for them at all. Serve them right if all those servers turned to blue screens.

Hope Leopard did that.
 
So what's the early concensus.... What type of install is everyone choosing. Update, archive and install or clean install?
 
redkamel said:
I like how the only features removed were the ones I was looking forward to.
May not apply to everyone, but I am a science student that does a lot of web research and photo work in my spare time, and game...so I use my computer for lots of things.

timemachine: I already do my own backups. Its really easy. if I could do them over the air that would be something new and worth money. I also dont delete things if I think it might be useful later. I just put it in a junk folder to throw away in a month or two.

NSF: gone. now I have to have another big harddrive.

sync notes to iphone: gone. is this really hard to program or something? I mean, sync to stickies. thats it. they are text files.

OS switching: gone.

ichat effects: seeing as no one I know video chats, I was hoping to amuse myself. now tehy are gone.

eye candy/spaces: it all looks distracting to me, and useless. 3d icons I can't manipulate? transparent windows with reflections? this is worse than widgets! (which is at least useful for some people I know). If I need a new "space" I just hide the programs.

stacks: my stuffs already organized, but it would be nice to not have a window pop up when I click a dock folder.

coverflow/quick look: sorry, my files are already named appropriately so i dont have to open them to see if its what I want. Spotlight finds anything more specific. Coverflow is fine when I am mucking with music, but for searching for a file? too slow.

pretty much anything useful was removed from the OS. and how come I can't use bluetooth on my iphone to control my mac? salling could do it. They need some new ideas over there. I havent seen anything awesome in the OS since spotlight and expose.

I'll be holding off on this one.
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If your current OS already provides everything you need, then what is the problem?
 
Watch yourselves with the Fedex "Pre-Sign For Delivery" notice on the door - I left one out and my delivery got "excepted", instead of getting it at 10am when I woke up, It now comes no later than 4:30pm today.
 
redkamel said:
I like how the only features removed were the ones I was looking forward to.
May not apply to everyone, but I am a science student that does a lot of web research and photo work in my spare time, and game...so I use my computer for lots of things.

timemachine: I already do my own backups. Its really easy. if I could do them over the air that would be something new and worth money. I also dont delete things if I think it might be useful later. I just put it in a junk folder to throw away in a month or two.

NSF: gone. now I have to have another big harddrive.

sync notes to iphone: gone. is this really hard to program or something? I mean, sync to stickies. thats it. they are text files.

OS switching: gone.

ichat effects: seeing as no one I know video chats, I was hoping to amuse myself. now tehy are gone.

eye candy/spaces: it all looks distracting to me, and useless. 3d icons I can't manipulate? transparent windows with reflections? this is worse than widgets! (which is at least useful for some people I know). If I need a new "space" I just hide the programs.

stacks: my stuffs already organized, but it would be nice to not have a window pop up when I click a dock folder.

coverflow/quick look: sorry, my files are already named appropriately so i dont have to open them to see if its what I want. Spotlight finds anything more specific. Coverflow is fine when I am mucking with music, but for searching for a file? too slow.

pretty much anything useful was removed from the OS. and how come I can't use bluetooth on my iphone to control my mac? salling could do it. They need some new ideas over there. I havent seen anything awesome in the OS since spotlight and expose.

I'll be holding off on this one.
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you don't quite get the point of quick look. It allows you to view a file without opening the program that would normally allow you to view it. Also, quick viewing a file will not register it in the Recent Items.

Stacks. If you click on a folder in the dock (in tiger), does it not open a window (finder window)?

Spaces. Hiding is nowhere near the same thing.
 
vassillios said:
Stacks. If you click on a folder in the dock (in tiger), does it not open a window (finder window)?
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since you can't put a folder in the dock (in tiger), i guess it doesn't open a window (finder window).

wow, not even my discussion and i'm snippy - must be the whole delivery exception business
 
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