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Eddy Cue and Craig Federighi Discuss Bloated Software Accusations, Upcoming iTunes Plans
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Maybe the designers at Apple have too much say and sway over the process.
Tell me...from looking at that quote, what is your reaction to it?128 comments and 7 people like iTunes.
If we could go back to this and just add an apple music tab that'd be great.
I'd love to go back to something like this. Anywhere between iTunes 3 - 6 were good times.
Additionally, I don't think an Apple Music tab is even needed. Do you remember when you could drag un-purchased songs from the iTunes store into playlists? The iTunes playlist would show the song in the list, with a buy button, and you could double-click to play the 30-sec preview?
All Apple needed to do was to allow people to drag and drop songs from the iTunes store into their playlists. Build entirely new playlists, or augment your existing. That's it.
Why would you want the iTunes store in an app separate from your music? That makes zero sense to me.
For me at least, iTunes is part of the distant past. For the past three years, Spotify has become my only music player. iTunes is only opened on my computer either via accident, or when I force myself to deal with it while backing up my iPhone before an update.
Well, on iOS the iTunes Store is a separate app from the Music app. But I think breaking iTunes down into so many smaller apps is a bit overkill. Maybe break it down a bit - kind of like iOS? iTunes Store, Music, Videos and Podcasts. And maybe iSync for any iOS device management.
The only sensible solution is to scrap the iTunes Store and move each store into the relevant app, replicating the same solution across iOS and OSX. It works well with iBooks where the store and purchased content sit side by side in one app. Move Music Videos into the Music app then create new apps for TV and Film.
On the Mac I don't mind having Music, iTunes Music Store, and Apple Music all in one app. However ideally I'd rather have one app that manages my music library (both local and cloud) and one app that manages pulling content into the library. (Similar to how the iTunes and Music apps worked on iOS before Apple Music.)
The problem right now seems to be that they don't want users to think too much about organizing their collection. Just have the stuff you like, pick what you feel like listening to and don't worry about where it is. Which would work if we always had an internet connection, or if we wanted to waste our bandwidth on that.
Personally I planned on paying for Apple Music when it launched ... and then had it utterly destroy my Library. (I can't exaggerate how beyond repair it was. I had to dump the whole thing and restore from Time Machine, I couldn't even use Apple Music on my phone because it refused to download all of the content I wanted to have. Which makes no sense. I have a 64 gig iPhone, I don't want to waste my limited data plan and battery constantly downloading music I've already listened to before!
On the Mac there should be for Music:
Music: which handles local content, allows streaming content that is non local, and makes accessible purchased content from the iTMS.
iTunes: which handles purchasing content and selecting new streaming content to be added to your library. (And yes there is an inelegance to having streaming and content that's only available to purchase in the same app. Blame the labels for that. They can easy show when someone isn't subscribed to Apple Music "this would be free included in an Apple Music Subscription" and they can also show to subscribers when an album is not yet available as part of their subscription.
On the Mac for video:
iFlicks: (Knowing Apple they'd call it iTunes for Video) This would allow you to purchase movies and TV shows from Apple (not sure how big of a business this is for them these days) and when you'd go to play it it would automatically launch ...
Movies, FrontRow, Theatre whatever you wanna call it. Which would be like iTunes but for movies (and recognize that movies aren't tunes so having them be in an app for tunes is stupid) Here you could sort movies by release date, genre etc. You could also (gasp) access content from Netflix and other VOD services that could integrate, and all the login info would be stored in iCloud so that when you buy an Apple TV the info only requires a single sign on.
They could probably even just allow developers to put in modified versions of their iOS apps compiled for whatever processors Apple's running at the time.
For Apps, just use the Mac App Store if you want to have local copies on the computer ... not sure why we even still have that?
For Books, have iBooks and Bookshelf. In each app you could have a button in the corner that automatically launches it's companion app. But these apps have all gotten so bloated. Each one loads up it's own store, and half the time I end up clicking on the wrong thing and ending up having the iTunes Store interface loading and it's a gross experience.
Oh, also the Video app would allow for not JUST mp4s and streaming content, but also AVI and MKV video files. Because ... WHY THE HELL NOT APPLE!? WHY THE HELL NOT!? (Also allow for storing libraries on a NAS.
The problem right now seems to be that they don't want users to think too much about organizing their collection. Just have the stuff you like, pick what you feel like listening to and don't worry about where it is. Which would work if we always had an internet connection, or if we wanted to waste our bandwidth on that.
Personally I planned on paying for Apple Music when it launched ... and then had it utterly destroy my Library. (I can't exaggerate how beyond repair it was. I had to dump the whole thing and restore from Time Machine, I couldn't even use Apple Music on my phone because it refused to download all of the content I wanted to have. Which makes no sense. I have a 64 gig iPhone, I don't want to waste my limited data plan and battery constantly downloading music I've already listened to before!
On the Mac there should be for Music:
Music: which handles local content, allows streaming content that is non local, and makes accessible purchased content from the iTMS.
iTunes: which handles purchasing content and selecting new streaming content to be added to your library. (And yes there is an inelegance to having streaming and content that's only available to purchase in the same app. Blame the labels for that. They can easy show when someone isn't subscribed to Apple Music "this would be free included in an Apple Music Subscription" and they can also show to subscribers when an album is not yet available as part of their subscription.
On the Mac for video:
iFlicks: (Knowing Apple they'd call it iTunes for Video) This would allow you to purchase movies and TV shows from Apple (not sure how big of a business this is for them these days) and when you'd go to play it it would automatically launch ...
Movies, FrontRow, Theatre whatever you wanna call it. Which would be like iTunes but for movies (and recognize that movies aren't tunes so having them be in an app for tunes is stupid) Here you could sort movies by release date, genre etc. You could also (gasp) access content from Netflix and other VOD services that could integrate, and all the login info would be stored in iCloud so that when you buy an Apple TV the info only requires a single sign on.
They could probably even just allow developers to put in modified versions of their iOS apps compiled for whatever processors Apple's running at the time.
For Apps, just use the Mac App Store if you want to have local copies on the computer ... not sure why we even still have that?
For Books, have iBooks and Bookshelf. In each app you could have a button in the corner that automatically launches it's companion app. But these apps have all gotten so bloated. Each one loads up it's own store, and half the time I end up clicking on the wrong thing and ending up having the iTunes Store interface loading and it's a gross experience.
Oh, also the Video app would allow for not JUST mp4s and streaming content, but also AVI and MKV video files. Because ... WHY THE HELL NOT APPLE!? WHY THE HELL NOT!? (Also allow for storing libraries on a NAS.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the problems with iTunes. Always works for me and seems simple enough. What is the big crisis I'm missing?
its fine everything u wanna do, but why does it need one app... its only gotta grow and grow with features added, then it slow down to a crawl, then what ? u hit a brick wall..
You can't keep one central software app and keep adding to it forever, otherwise it will turn out like Norton 360.. Bloated. at one point u gotta separate something.
You can't keep one central software app and keep adding to it forever, otherwise it will turn out like Norton 360.. Bloated. at one point u gotta separate something.
Ugh, iTunes is the biggest most dysfunctional piece of crap. Just having to locally install a program to manage your iOS device is terrible. I'd love to see it be more cloud/web browser based. A great example is installing apps. I can go to Google Play on the web and install an app right to my phone. With iOS I'd have to go through iTunes.
I have never plugged my iPad into iTunes, and have a bunch of apps installed on it. I use the App store app on the iPad to install apps. Do you actually use Apple products?
So basically, Apple’s making so much money that they’re in denial over how bad the software has gotten.
I agree. To me iTunes on Mac isn't all that bad and if they clean it up, it could work for the time being.
I finally got my wife to switch to an iPhone which she loves, but the mess that is on Windows even leaves me scratching my head at WTF?
I think the main problem is that apple´s first priority is: "NEVER EVER let our customers escape from our walled garden"! So they try to rise more and more distant walls, literally a chinese wall, all around services with high profit potential. What they never understood: Chinese walls in the digital world are just too complex and will never work reliably…
PLUS:
Jony Ive begins always with the top part of the wall and thinks exclusively about nice colored ornaments on it instead of solid bricks…. and is absolutely convinced the thinnest walls being the best walls…
Really? I personally think that Photos is a regression from the original.I find other applications (Graphic Converter, etc.) much better
iTunes has become dreadfully unintuitive, buggy, and slow. It's really too bad.
It also seems like Apple expects your music library to be very clinical and simple: a few complete albums per artist. That's it.
This applies to both iTunes and the Music app in iOS.
It also seems like Apple expects your music library to be very clinical and simple: a few complete albums per artist. That's it.
This applies to both iTunes and the Music app in iOS.
Talk is cheap, Apple Hype is even cheaper.
They're blowing smoke as usual, they know what you want to hear and they're convincing the uninitiated.
It's just meaningless noise...
Fix the crappy speed of downloads in the App Store.