I think they want iCloud Friends sharing where they can share it like their Netflix and HBO Go logins ;-)
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Eddy Cue and Jimmy Iovine Talk Apple Music in Series of Interviews
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I think they want iCloud Friends sharing where they can share it like their Netflix and HBO Go logins ;-)
I rewatched the music portion of the keynote and just came away with the feeling that the service was designed for the music industry and artists more so than for consumers. Like Jason Snell said it just seemed very self-indulgent. Almost like I should be bowing down to Apple for the privilege to spend $10 a month on this service. Yet neither Eddy or Jimmy provided a compelling reason to leave a competing service. So-called "human curation" isn't enough IMO.
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Again, not attacking Apple- just thinking about how the subscription management is getting done. My guess is with a resurrection of FairPlay DRM. They need some way to lock subscribers out when they stop paying. That seems like a good guess.
How does Spotify do it? I assume DRM. The difference is that iTunes dropped DRM while Spotify has always been doing whatever it is doing. Now iTunes must be resurrecting DRM or implementing something else to manage subscriptions (though DRM seems most likely to me).
Nothing wrong with that. I was simply asking if anyone knew how it was being managed.
The family sharing plan would be great if it was just for music. Come on apple. Don't be stupid. The vast majority of us do not want to share everything having one person paying for everything. I don't want to share my apps with anybody. Period. Music? Only real way this is affordable. Change it please. Just like the keyboard. Was it that hard to show lowercase!!!!!!!
The way Family Sharing works now makes it completely useless for a lot of families.
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Apple likes to say that the way they make money is buy building the best possible products. And they do that by identifying where there is need. When the iPhone came out, Steve Jobs said it was because nobody else had done smartphones well. Same with the iPod in the MP3 market.
But when I look at my iPhone, I don't think streaming music is the weak link, and it's been absolute crap. Spotify is one of the greatest technological joys I know both on my Mac and iPhone.
That's why I don't have a lot of hope for Apple Music. It's not a place where there was a need and it doesn't seem like Apple is going to fix anything that was broken. This is more about business and making sure Apple doesn't continue to lose ground in an influential area--it's like Microsoft back in the 90s wanting to make sure they had a stronghold in every single part of the tech industry. Microsoft tried to compete with iTunes and iPod and couldn't. I think it was very apt when Apple said they played a huge role in the history of music. I don't know about the future.
The Apple that says, "We're only going to do something if we can do it great and where there's a need" is not the Apple that would go after streaming music. It's already a lush landscape. I suppose it's a bit different though in that they're already in the landscape and don't want to just walk away from it. But I wish they would focus on core technologies more instead. Focus on making iMovie great again. All the cool stuff they used to do. Another streaming music service is not a really valuable contribution.
But when I look at my iPhone, I don't think streaming music is the weak link, and it's been absolute crap. Spotify is one of the greatest technological joys I know both on my Mac and iPhone.
That's why I don't have a lot of hope for Apple Music. It's not a place where there was a need and it doesn't seem like Apple is going to fix anything that was broken. This is more about business and making sure Apple doesn't continue to lose ground in an influential area--it's like Microsoft back in the 90s wanting to make sure they had a stronghold in every single part of the tech industry. Microsoft tried to compete with iTunes and iPod and couldn't. I think it was very apt when Apple said they played a huge role in the history of music. I don't know about the future.
The Apple that says, "We're only going to do something if we can do it great and where there's a need" is not the Apple that would go after streaming music. It's already a lush landscape. I suppose it's a bit different though in that they're already in the landscape and don't want to just walk away from it. But I wish they would focus on core technologies more instead. Focus on making iMovie great again. All the cool stuff they used to do. Another streaming music service is not a really valuable contribution.
Because most people either can't tell the difference, don't care about the difference or their equipment won't reflect the difference.
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality
Mweh, sticking with Spotify.
- My mobile carrier charge no data for Spotify usage.
- Sonos support
- Last.fm support
- Songkick integration
- Great share features.
All of this ins unclear to me to. I watched the keynote and afterwards I was confused about what is offered, what is there if I do not subscribe.
Beats Music streams up to 320kbps. I have mine streaming "high quality" only on WiFi. I honestly didn't remember that before I just looked this up. Beats also has a download quality setting for "standard" and "high." My guess is 128/256k vs. 320k.
That all depends on the quality of files they have. I'm guessing that if Apple has masters they can do 320k, but maybe some older stuff is just 256k at best.
Apple Music is basically being built on top of Beats tech, so I wouldn't expect a drastic change. This is why I never understood the people yesterday yelling about ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD SONGS? I've been doing that on Beats since I started subscribing last year.
Streaming Quality: Beats is up to 320k, so is Spotify. Take a guess.
iTunes Match compatibility: Not sure, but it sounds like Match is still going to be a thing.
Skipping Songs: Really? Is this a trick question?
Offline listening: Apple isn't stupid and Beats has had this from I think day one.
Personal Playlists: Again, Beats has it, Apple owns Beats.
Select What I Want When I Want: If it's one of the 30 million songs available or it's part of your iTunes purchases, uh, yeah.
Beats Radio is just mystifying?! -- It's a global 24/7 Internet radio station with DJs. Listen or don't.
Every Internet Radio station is Global and highly curated!!! -- Curated by computers or musicians?
I regularly listen to BBC Radio 1 for Pete Tong Essential Mix
along with Intergalatic FM from Netherlands
KFAT from California (it's off the air, just replays old broadcast from the 70s/80s)
The above are all FREE, besides the (data) I pay for while listening in my car. -- I'm pretty sure most of the streaming radio features are free for all with limited skips, just like Pandora or the free Spotify. Unlimited skips with Apple Music subscription. I think Beats 1 is for AM subscribers only.
I agree here..
Your more likely to sign up to something if u just share the same account, vs requiring everyone in the household to sign up just to take advantage of this service.
Apple let you download songs for free ? ha... No bloody way will that happen.. Their not that genious..
Your more likely to sign up to something if u just share the same account, vs requiring everyone in the household to sign up just to take advantage of this service.
Apple let you download songs for free ? ha... No bloody way will that happen.. Their not that genious..
Every song in iTunes store will be available for streaming. All your music stays within the Music App. Your music library is just one tab in the app. With the subscription you can simply add unlimited songs to your library and playlists. You can even save (probably a limit) songs to offline listening.
Where does Apple list Family Sharing as a requirement? They didn't say that in the keynote nor have I seen it on their site.
WE APPLE MUSIC WEBSITE!!!
Steaming quality: not sure (at least the same as iTunes)
iTunes Match merges with Apple Music. All the music you own on your iTunes becomes part of the cloud with the streaming service.
Sipping Songs: It's subscription, so unlimited skipping
Offline playlists: yes (states on the website)
Personal Playlists: yes (states on the website)
Seect what I want when I want: Yes you can listen to any song in iTunes, save the songs to your library, add songs to playlists, and save songs for offline listening (all on the website)
So far it's exactly like Spotify, minus the Facebook integration
Radio 1 plays good music. Unfortunately ruined by DJs opening their gobs every 30 seconds. JUST SHUT UP!
Wait. Wait. Wait!
For over 24 hours I've read thru a thousand posts about this Apple Music service. Nearly every single article, analyst, forum poster is "worried" whether Apple Music stands up against Spotify, Pandora, Tidal, Radio, and "if" it's features are better or not.
Let me get this straight.. Some or most of you are worried, pissed off, or your heads fell off fearing this "service" will somehow fail because it's not priced right for YOU, it's not the right quality for YOU, it's not the "same as" or "better than" everybody else.... Right?
And in TOTAL.... "Everybody else" is PAID SUBSCRIPTIONS from ALL of the competitors mentioned ad nauseam on these and other forums is maybe what 50 million people? 50 million? Ok so I'm not correct on that absolute number of PAID SUBS.. But what does that matter? Whatever that number is is NOTHING in the scheme of things. What APPLE sees is that the direction of how consumers consume music is changing and that PAID MUSIC STREAMING has yet gone mainstream...Period. So what I believe they are seeing huge potential to take the PAID STREAMING concept mainstream while attempting to maintain some creative outlet for the average artist.
Clearly NOBODY - including Spotify, Pandora, even Sirius Radio have been able to break FEE based MUSIC STREAMING into the mainstream...
Clearly Apple isn't trying to undo Spotify or anybody else as they are mimicking those services rather than trying to purposefully one up them all. Also, I'm sure they fear antitrust issues worldwide which would be a real reason for them to "join them" rather than attempt to "beat them".
With nearly 800 million accounts and worldwide muscle power Apple is poised to take FEE based music streaming commercial worldwide and will only HELP all of its TINY competitors by default.
I'm one of these people that will sign up day one because honestly I have a never used a streaming app yet. I buy my music and use only iTunes Match. I don't care about all the "is it better than" screaming going on... They've succeeded to convert ME to their PAID streaming service. I could care less how it stacks up against the others... So will millions of others worldwide just like me. Get the point?
No way will it fail. The whole streaming industry wins by sheer exposure and so will you as your favorite streaming service will likely get better as mass adoption builds.
Chill.
For over 24 hours I've read thru a thousand posts about this Apple Music service. Nearly every single article, analyst, forum poster is "worried" whether Apple Music stands up against Spotify, Pandora, Tidal, Radio, and "if" it's features are better or not.
Let me get this straight.. Some or most of you are worried, pissed off, or your heads fell off fearing this "service" will somehow fail because it's not priced right for YOU, it's not the right quality for YOU, it's not the "same as" or "better than" everybody else.... Right?
And in TOTAL.... "Everybody else" is PAID SUBSCRIPTIONS from ALL of the competitors mentioned ad nauseam on these and other forums is maybe what 50 million people? 50 million? Ok so I'm not correct on that absolute number of PAID SUBS.. But what does that matter? Whatever that number is is NOTHING in the scheme of things. What APPLE sees is that the direction of how consumers consume music is changing and that PAID MUSIC STREAMING has yet gone mainstream...Period. So what I believe they are seeing huge potential to take the PAID STREAMING concept mainstream while attempting to maintain some creative outlet for the average artist.
Clearly NOBODY - including Spotify, Pandora, even Sirius Radio have been able to break FEE based MUSIC STREAMING into the mainstream...
Clearly Apple isn't trying to undo Spotify or anybody else as they are mimicking those services rather than trying to purposefully one up them all. Also, I'm sure they fear antitrust issues worldwide which would be a real reason for them to "join them" rather than attempt to "beat them".
With nearly 800 million accounts and worldwide muscle power Apple is poised to take FEE based music streaming commercial worldwide and will only HELP all of its TINY competitors by default.
I'm one of these people that will sign up day one because honestly I have a never used a streaming app yet. I buy my music and use only iTunes Match. I don't care about all the "is it better than" screaming going on... They've succeeded to convert ME to their PAID streaming service. I could care less how it stacks up against the others... So will millions of others worldwide just like me. Get the point?
No way will it fail. The whole streaming industry wins by sheer exposure and so will you as your favorite streaming service will likely get better as mass adoption builds.
Chill.
You want to pay roughly $2.25 a month for 24/7 on demand commercial free streaming including offline listening and you think that's reasonable?
In other news I want a fully loaded 2016 BMW for $1,000
In other news I want a fully loaded 2016 BMW for $1,000
Funny how I disagree with you though. I've tried the other services. You know who I ended up with? Beats. Namely because of their unique feature of handing you music to listen to based on what you've liked instead of making you search for music. Amazon, Spotify, and Pandora all work best when you go search for music. Their offered playlists are crap. Music will be extremely competitive. People underestimate the power of a first-party solution.
So the old media guy suggests Apple create...what else....a radio station! Shocking!
I do like the idea of artists linking to other artists they like. Back in the MySpace day I bought most music I liked this way. It's not always a perfect match, but many, many times it worked out great. Especially for new indie artists.
I do like the idea of artists linking to other artists they like. Back in the MySpace day I bought most music I liked this way. It's not always a perfect match, but many, many times it worked out great. Especially for new indie artists.
My question is when they say "Add Apple Music content to your library" - does that mean you can download songs from iTunes and keep them or is that just for non-internet devices (iPod Nano, Watch, etc?)
Hahahahaha! I like that you would give executive control of a company based on a (quite stilted) stage performance, and the way you casually insert prejudice in your less than rigorous - I struggle to call it so - analysis.
Unfortunately, using a good turn of phrase does not automatically make a good argument.
It is understandable that, in the sea of 'creative' spelling and incomprehensible grammar that is any internet forum, you would feel your correctly composed words and decent grammar would carry weight, but to those of us not impressed by form, your content is patently wanting.
Yet, as a human being, I extent my sibling love to you, I might find your views offensive, and you lack of logical rigour a waste of good education, yet as your brother, as a fellow Homo Sapiens, I give you my loving hand. Perhaps you should try to love a little more your fellow human beings, however diverse, and different they are. x
iTunes already does 256kbps AAC so it will be either that or better.
iTunes Match will still be around but I think the understanding is you won't need both as Apple Music includes the same feature.
Of course you'd be able to skip songs. Baffled as to why you don't think that would be possible?
"Save for offline listening" is listed on the website under the membership perks.
Personal playlists were mentioned in the demo.. they're already in the music app.
Why wouldn't you be able to select what you what when you want it? Again this was shown in the demo.
Details here: http://mashable.com/2015/06/09/apple-music-itunes-match-explained/