Am I the only one that was almost sold on this by the Siri features alone? The fact that it's fully integrated with the Apple ecosystem, and my very large and still growing itunes library, makes this heads and tails better than Spotify. I'm not sure how anyone who already has a large iTunes music library and uses multiple Apple devices would prefer Spotify over this. Sure Spotify is easy to use, but it's a LOT of work to find new music you enjoy, immerse yourself in the music experience, and have it all integrated with your current devices and music library. I'm a long time iTunes Match subscriber, and I love it. I'm not one for streaming subscriptions so I doubt I'll get Apple Music(but I will give it the three month trial first), however it seems to me for people who are already streaming subscribers or prefer that method, Apple Music would seem to be a no brainer. Am I missing something here?
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Eddy Cue and Jimmy Iovine Talk Apple Music in Series of Interviews
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Tim Cook gives the impression that he has joined the dark side. He has a corrupt aura whereas before he had the aura of a school girl posing as an executive. It could be argued that he has just become more worldly and aware of the effects of mass culture on public figures, but I suspect it's something more sinister. I think he's like Apple's Woodrow Wilson - where Wilson sold out the United States to the Federal Reserve and later recanted - Cook sold out Apple to nefarious agendamongers.
Jimmy Iovine presented very poorly on stage. He seemed like he might be more adept at selling drugs or used cars than a premium service.
I hope he never features in a keynote again.
I hope he never features in a keynote again.
For me the great thing about streaming is that I can listen to loads of new stuff, without having to buy it.
Typically I might just buy one or two CDs a month, but be interested in listening to quite a few others, just not enough to want to keep buying five to 10 CDs a month, many of which I may never really listen to.
With a streaming subscription I can listen to them, and if I like them, keep listening to them. All for less then the cost of two CDs a month.
Its really a no brainer.
The presentation was horrible..
Jimmy was awful and everything Apples usually aren´t..
Sorry for the age discrimination but seriously, why is a "new" service targeted to mostly young people held by a bunch of 60y? guys playing hits from the "golden years" of their lives??
When you are almost a decade late to the party, you need to look fresh to make up for it..
..Something Apple is famous for it´s ability to do in all other areas..
And Drake.. Seriously?
"Yeah so I made it using social media where people could find me for free and now you can do the same by using this instead, but now you don´t have to worry about all those millions of people that use social media but instead you can focus on the few that pay for music, because that will make you reach more people" ...Yeah, about that logic..
Jimmy was awful and everything Apples usually aren´t..
Sorry for the age discrimination but seriously, why is a "new" service targeted to mostly young people held by a bunch of 60y? guys playing hits from the "golden years" of their lives??
When you are almost a decade late to the party, you need to look fresh to make up for it..
..Something Apple is famous for it´s ability to do in all other areas..
And Drake.. Seriously?
"Yeah so I made it using social media where people could find me for free and now you can do the same by using this instead, but now you don´t have to worry about all those millions of people that use social media but instead you can focus on the few that pay for music, because that will make you reach more people" ...Yeah, about that logic..
So many people keep repeating that the service will have ALL iTunes music. The Beats website says "iTunes library" but Apple says "all songs in the Apple Music library". We've got two opposing official statements but I'm going to believe the one that didn't magically convince public holdouts like The Beatles, Tool, AC/DC, etc. without any announcement or fanfare.
This article states they are still in negotiations with about 15% of iTunes music not on board. http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...alks-to-complete-apple-music-library---report
Not that big of a deal to me as 95% of the stuff that was grayed out in Spotify I already own and Apple Music will simply mix it in for me.
I'm still trying out Spotify with a 3 month trial. The streaming model IS awesome, but not being able to listen on my Fiio music player (think Pono) is a bummer. Even with MP3s, the amps really do sound better in these new music players with good headphones. It's an area Apple could really make a big deal about with the 6s. They've had arguably the best 8mp camera for years and possibly the best sounding DAC and amp (in a phone) for even more years. Just like it is time for a megapixel boost, sound quality could also get a boost. Dedicated players will always have an edge, but I'd love to see Apple split the difference. I think my iPhone sounds good, but then I listen to my Fiio and I get bummed out because the Fiio sounds so much better but has a garbage UI and does nothing else.
This article states they are still in negotiations with about 15% of iTunes music not on board. http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...alks-to-complete-apple-music-library---report
Not that big of a deal to me as 95% of the stuff that was grayed out in Spotify I already own and Apple Music will simply mix it in for me.
I'm still trying out Spotify with a 3 month trial. The streaming model IS awesome, but not being able to listen on my Fiio music player (think Pono) is a bummer. Even with MP3s, the amps really do sound better in these new music players with good headphones. It's an area Apple could really make a big deal about with the 6s. They've had arguably the best 8mp camera for years and possibly the best sounding DAC and amp (in a phone) for even more years. Just like it is time for a megapixel boost, sound quality could also get a boost. Dedicated players will always have an edge, but I'd love to see Apple split the difference. I think my iPhone sounds good, but then I listen to my Fiio and I get bummed out because the Fiio sounds so much better but has a garbage UI and does nothing else.
Wow, this reminded me of an important question that hasn't been answered officially yet: Will Apple Music use regional limits on the available music? I hate that with Spotify. I add songs to a playlist, suddenly a fourth of it is wiped off because an entire album was. Not because the artist or the album was taken off Spotify, but because it's no longer available in my country! Uggh. I hope Apple has more to say about this than Spotify.
No kidding... But it is all about sound and playing uncompressed. That said, I can't really hear a difference between 320kbps and FLAC on it. BUT I hear a huge difference between 320 on the iPhone and 320 on the Fiio X3, which is only the middle tier player.
I think Apple has made the phone too thin at this point to squeeze in a better amp though.
Apple Music looks really nice and is the better option for me rather than Spotify (of which I have been paying £9 for since July 14).
The UI looks real nice, compatibility across all my devices (inc Apple Watch) ETC..
I am not to sure on Connect, if Artists post compelling content then perhaps it will separate it from Ping, but I don't think the majority of people care how in love Artists are with the music making process, and how deep and spiritual it is...
Thoughts?
P.S Eddy Cue is not the same under TC
The UI looks real nice, compatibility across all my devices (inc Apple Watch) ETC..
I am not to sure on Connect, if Artists post compelling content then perhaps it will separate it from Ping, but I don't think the majority of people care how in love Artists are with the music making process, and how deep and spiritual it is...
Thoughts?
P.S Eddy Cue is not the same under TC
I listen to Spotify for $0/month at about 3-6hrs per month as occasional background music.
If I was to listen to it constantly I might pay the premium or buy the album. It's amazing how many people keep defending a multi-billion dollar company that continues to literally swipe every penny out of our pockets by forcibly upgrading devices, slowing them down and coercing us to upgrade and spend more money.
FYI, I've literally spend tens of thousands on music alone over the decades. I just prefer to BUY my music instead of renting it. As a hobby musician, I've also produced albums and understand the artists side of the argument. Labels typically offer 10% or less of the proceeds, which is why many artists, especially undiscovered ones prefer a direct to consumer model.
Most artists would support higher subscriptions levels at lower prices than fewer subscriptions at higher prices.
Problem is the middle-men. Labels, agents, wholesaler, retailer, Apple all want their cuts.
IMHO, renting music is worth half or less of renting movies & TV Shows. Movie & TV show production costs far exceed music production ones and thus if Netflix has a sustainable model at less than $10/month, why should the music industry charge more ?
Everything aside... where Apple Music will win is if they can maintain a library larger than anyone else. Also, I think we'll see some flexibility that others may not offer (I'll admit, I'm not real familiar with many of these services).... but I would imagine with Apple Music since you'll have access to not only your music, but anything on iTunes, and live streaming, content will rarely be an issue.
It seems Apple has always had issues when offering services... maybe this time they can make it work?
It seems Apple has always had issues when offering services... maybe this time they can make it work?
Good question, but I think the current quality is sufficient and Apple can always upgrade it later on.
You might want to take some lessons in logic and math.
Your analogy is flawed comparing renting vs buying and your ratio is off by factor 10.
FWIW, I'd pay $120 for buying 12 albums, but yes a fraction of that to rent them.
If you like streaming/renting your music go ahead pay the $120/year. I'll spend my money on 12 albums instead and never have to pay another penny to play them over and over.
Quick pricing question. Apple Music will code $9.99 a month, the same as Beats Music. However Beats Music has an option to buy a yearly subscription for $99 as opposed to $119.88 a year. (9.99per monthx12months) Yet I haven't seen any mention of Apple Music matching that same yearly price point. Does anyone know if Apple Music will indeed match the same $99 per year that Beats does?
Netflix has way less to offer then the whole Apple Music Store within Apple Music. I'm a movie lover and like you I've spend (not tens of thousands) thousands of euro's on blu-rays and dvd's, i've got close to 3000 movies, most of them from Criterion Collection and Masters of Cinema. Most of these movies, like 99,9% are not within Netflix, also new titles that I do like to watch are not within Netflix. In fact, in Netflix I couldn't find one movie. Maybe this has changed by now but at the time I couldn't find the following titles on Netflix: Il Conformista (1970), Idi i smotri (1985), Soy Cuba (1964), Lawrence of Arabia (1962), Barry Lyndon (1975), Stellet licht (2007), The Thief of Bagdad (1924), Vertigo (1958),The Third man (1949), Touch of Evil (1958), Citizen Kane (1941) .... And those movies are not what you call not well known among movie lovers...
With streaming music services however you'll get almost everything for just a small amount of money.
Streaming bitrate will be 256 kbps in AAC format which is i.m.h.o. better quality then even 320 kbps in Ogg Vorbis format streaming that Spotify uses.
Everything you've bought will be available within Apple Music streaming app as well. Including all of the songs you've imported from cd's.
? You can skip songs as much you like, only it requires a premium account to enable it.
Yups, possible!
Possible! Even better then Spotify cause you can add your own background picture of choice as thumbnail that represents your playlist.
Possible, requires an account tough, as for everything above with the exception to just listen to the new radio stations.
Not sure how Apple Music will integrate other radio stations, this is the part that is mystifying for me as well...
Nah, I'm a paying Spotify customer but I work within an Apple environment, I think I'll skip towards Apple Music app simply because they will have more to offer at the end, unknown new talented artist can broadcast their productions using the Connect functionality within Apple Music. You can compare that with SoundCloud. And it's at this point also cheaper then Spotify.
would be great if the music would be compatible with Apple TV or any kind of speakers that I could play in my house without the need to use TV. 14.99 can work for my family. Spotify works on my Yamaha without advertisements, but on Iphone that is a killer.
My wife and I are heading down on vacation for a week in July. We're going to sign up for the free trial and make genius playlists from our 25 favorite songs and see what turns up. I'm sure we'll end up finding music we don't know or don't have but will really enjoy.
The 90 seconds is probably enough, but it's the ability to create genius playlists from our favorite songs from the vast Apple Music library is what's attractive to me.
Answer: If you own the premium then no data is consumed. Thats the whole point. If you try to stream music either on Spotify or Apple music without a subscription then you will eat your data very quick. So if you want to be mobile and listen to music in your car then you have to subscribe and you will have unlimited access to music without your data consumed. QUOTE]
seems they approached this service in the Beats manner, Lots of info, saying how cool it is, without actually saying anything. I'm still not sure they have explained what we will actually get as part of this service.
I've watched that presentation a few times, and damn....... still at loss what it was all about!
I think ill just get the trial and work it out.
I've watched that presentation a few times, and damn....... still at loss what it was all about!
I think ill just get the trial and work it out.
Will it work OFFLINE like Spotify does, so when I am on a plane and I don't have WIFI I can still listen to my entire playlist... i have not seen this posted anywhere.
I'm thinking I'll take the plunge within the next few days and signup for the $99 a year Beats subscription in the event that Appls decides to end new subscription signups as well as not offer you the $99 a year plan, but still honor previous subscriptions at that price.