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Can someone explain to me why in the world anyone would buy an overpriced Apple TV? I used to think Roku was king, but when the $40 Amazon TV Fire Stick came out, that all changed. (And it goes on sale quite often for much less).
I guess some could argue that the Amazon Stick is Android, and they might not like that, but just based off of consuming media alone (netflix, movie rentals, hulu,etc....), the stick is really blazing fast, affordable, and overall really user friendly.

User experience. If you don't believe that TV watching should be simpler and more intuitive, then I'm afraid there isn't much to be gained from further discussion.
 
Absolutely. I'm pretty much already there. I have an ATV, iTunes and Netflix. If I have to get a cable subscription or sign up & enter some silly code just to watch a show, I just skip it and move on to something else. The major networks have already lost me as a customer. Their content is just really not worth the hassle anyway.

I agree with you and also do the exact same thing. Best thing about it, it'll will soon catch up to those major networks. Those who are smart enough will offer their content without the need for a cable subscription, and those who wait too long will just suffer.

Here's the deal,
There's like 6 shows you might watch on TV, lets say $30 per season pass from iTunes (or where ever you might get your content), that's $180 per year (or season of those shows together). Then there's Netflix, you can't really beat $120 per year of some really great content. (I mean, have you seen Attack on Titan!!!)

Compare that to a cable subscription, it's like $150 per month, all while half the crap you wanna watch, isn't even on at the time you're available. (Don't even mention DVRing or TIVO, the former eliminates that middle man entirely).

So, we compare roughly $1800 per year for a cable subscription and lets say that included internet too.
Versus having a decent internet connection for $45 per month plus 6 season passes at lets say $40 each and a Netflix subscription for $10 per month, that's roughly $900.
That seems like exactly half the price.

Bottom line, a good internet connection and your choice of media streaming device, save money and watch what you wanna watch. And that show they want you to sign up for cable for, it's probably not worth it.
 
I agree with you and also do the exact same thing. Best thing about it, it'll will soon catch up to those major networks. Those who are smart enough will offer their content without the need for a cable subscription, and those who wait too long will just suffer.

Here's the deal,
There's like 6 shows you might watch on TV, lets say $30 per season pass from iTunes (or where ever you might get your content), that's $180 per year (or season of those shows together). Then there's Netflix, you can't really beat $120 per year of some really great content. (I mean, have you seen Attack on Titan!!!)

Compare that to a cable subscription, it's like $150 per month, all while half the crap you wanna watch, isn't even on at the time you're available. (Don't even mention DVRing or TIVO, the former eliminates that middle man entirely).

So, we compare roughly $1800 per year for a cable subscription and lets say that included internet too.
Versus having a decent internet connection for $45 per month plus 6 season passes at lets say $40 each and a Netflix subscription for $10 per month, that's roughly $900.
That seems like exactly half the price.

Bottom line, a good internet connection and your choice of media streaming device, save money and watch what you wanna watch. And that show they want you to sign up for cable for, it's probably not worth it.

What your model leaves out is that by paying for the cable subscription, you're funding many other programs that would't see the light of day. I'm not saying it's a good model - but by switching to a complete ala carte method, some very good should might never get produced because of the risk/costs involved.

Also - it really would take a complete overhaul of how everyone is paid for the content created. And that's a big fish to fry.
 
Apple, please don't start creating your own TV shows. Please.
Why?, so your fine with Apple having a streaming content..but you don't want Apple to create their own content, right?, let me explain to you..why you are 100% wrong, 10 streaming services - not good for costumers, but 1 billion of content - it's very very good for costumers!
 
Can someone explain to me why in the world anyone would buy an overpriced Apple TV? I used to think Roku was king, but when the $40 Amazon TV Fire Stick came out, that all changed. (And it goes on sale quite often for much less).
Are you just trying to stir up a pot that has been stirred over and over and over again? What's your point? You know the answers. Please tell us why the amazon stick is so great.
 
Can someone explain to me why in the world anyone would buy an overpriced Apple TV? I used to think Roku was king, but when the $40 Amazon TV Fire Stick came out, that all changed. (And it goes on sale quite often for much less).
I guess some could argue that the Amazon Stick is Android, and they might not like that, but just based off of consuming media alone (netflix, movie rentals, hulu,etc....), the stick is really blazing fast, affordable, and overall really user friendly.

How is interface and navigating Netflix on Fire stick? Nice on Apple TV looks terrible on my Sony Blu-Ray.
 
I've been waiting for interactive TV since 1998, when I first read a research paper about it. We have had the technology for at least 10 years, but it seems it requires Apple for things to take off.

In a TV show like Survivor, I like to vote what the participants should do or if they get to stay. I want to be able to select which camera to use in sports; from above, from a head cam etc. I want to Like or Unlike anytime in the program, and if enough people do it, they can hear it in the studio.

I want to play "Who wants to be a millionaire" from the sofa. Repeated questions until only one viewer is left. If it is me, they will call me up and I get to play for real.
 
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Almost right: we can't convince the content providers to let us take over their industry like we did the recording industry.
There is a huge difference between recording industry vs tv industry. Apple will never be able to force them as they have other platforms to run to like Roku, Chromcast and Amazon Fire. At the end of the day, it's all about apps. So it's nothing unique that Apple is offering.

I really hate these soft ball interviews, the interviewer might as well be working for Apple

no question on Amazon and Vudu not being supported?
You understand that nobody would go to any interview without knowing what questions to be asked.. especially these type of pre-meditated and exposure laden interviews.

I run an iTunes server for my ripped movies and tv shows, so that requires AppleTV. I suppose to I could convert all that to Plex, and maybe some day I will, but right I don't feel like it.

I like the Apple UI the most. Maybe it's brand loyalty. I also like the fact there is a brick and mortar store I can just walk into for service or help.

I also require an ethernet connection so my streaming isn't interrupted be wireless interference or other wifi quirks.

I'm willing to pay $150 for all of that.
Converting to Plex is a matter of minutes worth work. Download Plex and point to iTunes directory. Rest is automatically done by Plex.

Roku has ethernet connection. I don't see any advantage of Apple TV over Roku from that angle.
 
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The two future developments with Apple TV that i'm most looking forward to are:

1) Apple's own channel package.

2) Photo slideshow apps. I have a gigantic photo collection and I want beautiful ways to display it on the TV. I'd like to see Flickr, Google Photos, and Apple of course really wow us in this area.
 
IMHO, Roku is eating Apple's lunch right now. Let's see if the developers can finally make the AppleTV compelling. Apple sure hasn't.
 
Converting to Plex is a matter of minutes worth work. Download Plex and point to iTunes directory. Rest is automatically done by Plex.

Roku has ethernet connection. I don't see any advantage of Apple TV over Roku from that angle.

I've had Rokus, both the 2 and the 3. I *hate* the remote on Roku. The buttons of spongey and give no feedback, the shape is odd, and the dedicated service buttons are pointless. It's the worst. The UI is also awful and super laggy.
 
Why?, so your fine with Apple having a streaming content..but you don't want Apple to create their own content, right?, let me explain to you..why you are 100% wrong, 10 streaming services - not good for costumers, but 1 billion of content - it's very very good for costumers!

Apple is already stretching themselves too thin with all the new products and services they are pushing, and trying to enter TV production would stretch them out even further. They need to refocus on their core products again (Mac, iPhone, iPad, iOS, OS X) and make those stable and extremely great before they venture into other markets.
 
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This is only the beginning, though. When I get mine hopefully apps like All4 and BBC iPlayer will have launched. Then, over time, licensing will update so 100% of output will be on demand, too (if only for a week or two).
 
Apparently people do. I don't. But I also don't go criticizing or insinuating no one watches them. I'm sure it was written as sarcasm - but do you really need to ask such a question when "reality tv" is so prevalent?

Yeah, I do. "Reality Television" which is anything but, and are really game shows, are prime evidence as to why commercial broadcast television in the U.S. is garbage, as well as the cable channels.

Apple is already stretching themselves too thin with all the new products and services they are pushing, and trying to enter TV production would stretch them out even further. They need to refocus on their core products again (Mac, iPhone, iPad, iOS, OS X) and make those stable and extremely great before they venture into other markets.

Loke so many others, you should send your resume to Apple *cough*

I am almost there with you. The only thing I miss about cutting the cord is baseball. I really hope that MLB figures out how to give me access to in-market games with the MLB TV package. I'd pay $200 a season for it. Especially if I could subscribe to the playoffs without a cable account.

It's not going to happen. If the game is in your town, you have to buy a ticket and be there. Cable/broadcast television is the same. Local games are blacked out, unless they are sold out, sometimes.
 
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I'm liking these Apple execs less and less the more I see them, Cue, Ive, Schiller, Cook. If it was a conscious decision to make the company more "personal" it backfired. Cue with his smug smirk is the worst of them. Focus on the products and make them rock-solid, not a year-old iPhone 6 plus that's already lagging from insufficient RAM or OS X which has crashed on me more times this year than it had in the previous 6 when I first switched to Mac.
 
Ah, I love when journalists push for the difficult questions. Oh wait, they basically only repeated the demo they already showed in their keynote for the viewers who don't bother watching keynotes.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
The device must have an HDMI in. This way you wire it inline with your cable box, so you never have to switch inputs to get to the ATV. When I throw something at it in AirPlay, it comes right on without switching. And the ATV could overlay video on the cable content, like weather or sports, or to augment programs. You don't want your little box on some AUX port.
 
Can someone explain to me why in the world anyone would buy an overpriced Apple TV? I used to think Roku was king, but when the $40 Amazon TV Fire Stick came out, that all changed. (And it goes on sale quite often for much less).
I guess some could argue that the Amazon Stick is Android, and they might not like that, but just based off of consuming media alone (netflix, movie rentals, hulu,etc....), the stick is really blazing fast, affordable, and overall really user friendly.

For me: Airplay. None of the other boxes or sticks have it, but w/ Airplay I have all of the functionality of the other boxes.

As for overpriced -- ATV3, which is the box comparable to Roku3 and Fire Stick is $69 or less. So same price as Roku3 and $20 buck more than Fire Stick. Hardly seems to attain the "overpriced" label you slap on it. ATV4 is a different animal and competes with the regular Fire TV box. That one is $99 but also only has 8GB of storage to ATV4's 32GB. So ATV4 also seems to be priced in-line w/ competitors.
 
Apple is already stretching themselves too thin with all the new products and services they are pushing, and trying to enter TV production would stretch them out even further. They need to refocus on their core products again (Mac, iPhone, iPad, iOS, OS X) and make those stable and extremely great before they venture into other markets.
They can do both, Apple is claiming to be an innovative company, if they want to remain the top dogs..they need..to also focus on new products, if not.. Apple will lose his spot to other companies like Tesla, also what happens if Netflix releases their own streaming device..would you still buy the next Apple TV?, because i will choose to buy Netflix, to give them more money..so i can get more awesome tv shows like Daredevil and Marco Polo

Netflix and others will have no problem with Apple, releasing they own content, in fact they will be happy about it
Apple can afford it, imagine Deadpool tv series with Ryan Reynolds..heck even Batman or Wolverine rated r series..something that DC and Marvel are to chickens to do it
 
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