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Exactly how does the company being the richest make a difference?

Because they didn't win the lottery to get there, perhaps?
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Wow, what an independent mind you are. Wait when Trump becomes president of the largest economy in the world (and don't you dare doubt his competence).

Not sure exactly what you're babbling on about, but here's the difference. As a voter I have the tools available to me to determine whether Trump is qualified to be POTUS (He's not).

As an anonymous forum poster none of us have the tools at our disposal to determine whether Eddy Cue is competent for his position.
 
Because they didn't win the lottery to get there, perhaps?
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Not sure exactly what you're babbling on about, but here's the difference. As a voter I have the tools available to me to determine whether Trump is qualified to be POTUS (He's not).

As an anonymous forum poster none of us have the tools at our disposal to determine whether Eddy Cue is competent for his position.
Well I wouldn't presume to determine if Eddy Cue is competent for his position. That's for his boss to decide. But as a long time loyal customer I can certainly give him the stink eye for the way certain things seem to be going. And I can vote with my wallet. Perceptions and even misperceptions can count for a lot in that case. I think a lot of us are doing the best we can to figure out what's going on and what exactly Eddy Cue (and the rest of the command team) IS doing while the software and hardware is starting to lose its luster and services experience some odd hiccups.

I do appreciate you bringing a different perspective to the discussion, though, and keeping it from becoming a complete bash fest. Well done.
 
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Obviously not everyone will have the same experience--YMMV, as they say. But if there are people out there that say they have problems with Apple's cloud services, then those problems do exist.

As for me? iCloud once ate one of my documents I had typed up for one of my college courses. That's the last time I used it. So I can attest to the fact that these problems are real, and that if Apple wants people to take them seriously, they need to focus on those issues instead of a glorified 30-minute ad.

Well, you're right about one thing. YMMV. But as someone who has used all of Apple's Cloud services for years with no data loss issues whatsoever I can say that I trust them a lot more than I do the unsubstantiated and vague claims of an anonymous forum poster.

If you feel like "the iCloud ate your homework" and you have no faith in it that's all the proof you need that Apple's services aren't any good, and I have no problem with that. Go forth and conquer. The services work great for me, and I am happy with them. Perhaps I'll want Cue's head on a pike, too if I ever lose something.
 
You assume just cause someone has an important position, it's end of debate, cause the company is doing well.

When it comes to senior roles, politics and business are very similar, it's not about the best person for the job...

May I introduce you to Boris Johnson.... Many BoJo's exist in business in very senior roles.

Come to think of it, that would make W Bush, a good president, as he ran the most powerful country in the world ;) .... Logically.

Sorry but you're response is meaningless. You just listed some examples of, in your opinion, bead leaders. Others can make a list, in their opinion, of great leaders.

The point is if you're not intimately involved, you don't know what's up. He's been with the company for a long time ('89), promoted up the ranks, in key roles, responsible for important initiatives, and the company has been doing very well for a long time. It's safe to assume he's doing something right.

There are a lot of armchair business leaders here. But the truth is most wouldn't know how to run a successful local Dunkin' Donuts, let alone a global tech leader like Apple.
 
Lol, of course they are not trying to create TV shows, now that the public reaction to their first TV show was dismal.

Had the public reaction been largely positive, Apple would have claimed they were planning to make TV shows all along and will do more shows in the future.

Apple's biggest innovation has, and always will be, marketing spin and PR.
 
Sorry but you're response is meaningless. You just listed some examples of, in your opinion, bead leaders. Others can make a list, in their opinion, of great leaders.

The point is if you're not intimately involved, you don't know what's up. He's been with the company for a long time ('89), promoted up the ranks, in key roles, responsible for important initiatives, and the company has been doing very well for a long time. It's safe to assume he's doing something right.

There are a lot of armchair business leaders here. But the truth is most wouldn't know how to run a successful local Dunkin' Donuts, let alone a global tech leader like Apple.

My response on the flawed logic of the previous poster..... oww do tell, did you miss the sarcasm?

Yes you missed the Sarcasm,, and yourself have just gone out of your want to defend an individual, while saying how dare people judge without knowing said individual intimately. Its called hypocrisy . I laugh when people while having no intimate knowledge will defend apple execs no matter what, and yet are very vocal on why Trump cannot be president.....hello...

How about your read the thread, and maybe appreciate that someone should be able to post an opinion without being called clueless and arrogant cause they don't have intimate dealings with apple execs.....

If you ever work with boardroom members you will realise how connected they are via friendships, previous jobs and referrals. Not coming through the ranks of the company they started with. Most that got there, like in politics have played games and screwed people over....
 
Solid strategy (for the time being, at least). Let the major players in that space do what they do best, and focus on Apple being the premiere platform for distribution and consumption.

I agree. The space itself is going through a serious fragmentation. A smart player should sit back and wait for an opening rather than create divisiveness. There's no way that Apple could effectively spearhead a paradigm shift in content distribution or consumption without some or all of the major players retaliating in some way.
 
Sorry but you're response is meaningless. You just listed some examples of, in your opinion, bead leaders. Others can make a list, in their opinion, of great leaders.

The point is if you're not intimately involved, you don't know what's up. He's been with the company for a long time ('89), promoted up the ranks, in key roles, responsible for important initiatives, and the company has been doing very well for a long time. It's safe to assume he's doing something right.

There are a lot of armchair business leaders here. But the truth is most wouldn't know how to run a successful local Dunkin' Donuts, let alone a global tech leader like Apple.

Actually, when using a term "armchair something" it's much more easily applicable to sports, than business. You would be surprised how many people at the top of the ladder are profesionally incompetent.

I have been at many meetings with execs of worlwide corporations and can tell you that most of them are completely out of touch with their firm, relying mostly on their machiavellian skills (quite similar to those of politicians) and their profesionally skilled subordinates to do all the heavy-lifting (which is later accredited to those same execs).

In essence, all they do is attend meetings, fly around, make ABC choices and present keynotes that are handed to them.

So ... I really don't get this Apple being the richest company and global tech leader. What difference does it make? The way you put it sounds like it's run from the Mt. Olympus.
 
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Because they didn't win the lottery to get there, perhaps?
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Not sure exactly what you're babbling on about, but here's the difference. As a voter I have the tools available to me to determine whether Trump is qualified to be POTUS (He's not).

As an anonymous forum poster none of us have the tools at our disposal to determine whether Eddy Cue is competent for his position.
Again so what? You know there is a landscape gardener down the road from me who loves what he does with a passion. He’s not as well paid or as well known as Cue but does that make him worse at running his business?
From the point of view of how much money does he make, you could make an argument for that answer to be yes. But if he’s as successful as he can be with what he has and what he does with no desire to work for a large conglomerate then…….
 
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Eddy Cue Says Apple 'Not Trying to Create TV Shows,'"

well, it's not like you are trying to create a competitive phone either... so what are you doing?

*chuckles*......

I thought Apple were dealing with bringing their own $20 line up of "bundles" to Apple TV, sounds like "helping" to me. Or maybe that's "trying to help" .
 
"If we see it being complementary to the things we're doing at Apple Music …"

Yeah, the ridiculous things they're doing with Apple Music (aka The Death of a Decent iTunes). I just noticed yesterday that we're now being asked to join Apple Music in order to simply preview a song on iTunes. Shook my head and quit the app. Time to replace Eddy Clueless.
 
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What's "lacking" in iOS 10, WatchOS 3 and macOS Sierra, exactly?

And what's better or more advanced/polished in the industry?


People will continue to hate on apple through their apple devices...Id like to see all these haters never use an Apple product again! The true user base would have much less congestion.
 
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iCloud should be given to someone else. Perhaps if he could focus 100% on iTunes, Music and TV they would get better.

If Eddy focuses on a given area it will only get worse - he soooooo needs to be replaced.
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Tim "beancounter" Cook. Phil "innovator my ass" Schiller. Eddy "no clue" Cue.

The dream team. Together they have turned a company I admired into something I almost despise these days.

Very well said and my thoughts exactly. I just purchased and set up Amazon's Echo and the Rachio sprinkler controller. Echo voice control works perfectly, Rachio was a dream to set up. Apple was supposed to own our living room and home automation. These clowns need to go along with Levinson who is the head fish - where the rot begins.
 
Again so what? You know there is a landscape gardener down the road from me who loves what he does with a passion. He’s not as well paid or as well known as Cue but does that make him worse at running his business?
From the point of view of how much money does he make, you could make an argument for that answer to be yes. But if he’s as successful as he can be with what he has and what he does with no desire to work for a large conglomerate then…….

What are you even talking about?
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You assume just cause someone has an important position, it's end of debate, cause the company is doing well.

When it comes to senior roles, politics and business are very similar, it's not about the best person for the job...

May I introduce you to Boris Johnson.... Many BoJo's exist in business in very senior roles.

Come to think of it, that would make W Bush, a good president, as he ran the most powerful country in the world ;) .... Logically.

No. What I "assume" is that you, nor I are in a good position to determine how well Eddy Cue performs his job, because neither of us know the metrics of how he is evaluated on said performance. The only way you, or I could be in that position is if we were privy to his job description, and how well he does per that description. The person or people who ARE in the position to make the determination work in Cupertino.

So, to put this in succinct terms for you, unless you're a senior executive at Apple you're pulling any opinion you have about whether he should be fired or not out of your nether region. Clear enough for you?

It's funny how inflamed people get when they are told the clear fact that, given their relative ignorance on a subject their opinions are not quite worth the effort it takes to scrape them off the bottom of my shoe.
 
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I agree. The space itself is going through a serious fragmentation. A smart player should sit back and wait for an opening rather than create divisiveness. There's no way that Apple could effectively spearhead a paradigm shift in content distribution or consumption without some or all of the major players retaliating in some way.

No - the effective visionary leader would create THE compelling distribution / consumption solution. Ummm - iPhone / iTunes / iPad / ???

Apple could have completed a hostile takeover of AKAMAI for $12,000,000,000 and have a tremendous asset in distribution. Instead, they have blown over $130,000,000,000 in their useless buyback program with zippo to show for it.
 
What are you even talking about?
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No. What I "assume" is that you, nor I are in a good position to determine how well Eddy Cue performs his job, because neither of us know the metrics of how he is evaluated on said performance. The only way you, or I could be in that position is if we were privy to his job description, and how well he does per that description. The person or people who ARE in the position to make the determination work in Cupertino.

So, to put this in succinct terms for you, unless you're a senior executive at Apple you're pulling any opinion you have about whether he should be fired or not out of your nether region. Clear enough for you?

It's funny how inflamed people get when they are told the clear fact that, given their relative ignorance on a subject their opinions are not quite worth the effort it takes to scrape them off the bottom of my shoe.

You're amazing. The only, rather obvious fact here is that you lack a great deal of comprehension and continue to "babble" to your own drum of "only Apple can judge whether their products are stagnating or not, because neither of us are in a good position to determine that for are not employed there".

I like your scraping the shoe part though. It really adds the terrifyingly comical flavour to your non-sense.
 
What are you even talking about?
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No. What I "assume" is that you, nor I are in a good position to determine how well Eddy Cue performs his job, because neither of us know the metrics of how he is evaluated on said performance. The only way you, or I could be in that position is if we were privy to his job description, and how well he does per that description. The person or people who ARE in the position to make the determination work in Cupertino.

So, to put this in succinct terms for you, unless you're a senior executive at Apple you're pulling any opinion you have about whether he should be fired or not out of your nether region. Clear enough for you?

It's funny how inflamed people get when they are told the clear fact that, given their relative ignorance on a subject their opinions are not quite worth the effort it takes to scrape them off the bottom of my shoe.

Why? We judge our politicians , sports stars etc etc based on performance. What makes these execs so special that we cannot voice our opinions on an apple website. Cause you said so.....give it up.

As fans, apple users, or shareholder we have every right to have an opinion how these highly paid individuals are performing.

make sure you get the right foot into the right shoe bud....

Lay off the thought police work, you are not very good at it, we can voice our opinions without you calling us arrogant etc.
 
I know it's not uncommon to be critical On MacRumors. However, I saw Cue at Starbucks a few months back. Let me tell you, he really is arrogant in real life as he is on the stage.

I know Eddie is one of the original team members from Steve Jobs past times. But, it seems so awkward that he is part of the Apple team. Almost like when he wears his Hawaiian shirts driving in his Ferrari.
 
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