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Well, iTunes is largest in the world music retailer, Apple music is like 15 million paid subscribers already and has brought 1 billion dollars in revenue in its first months. It already one of main music streamers. Sure, it means Eddy is doing something right, eh?
 
People will continue to hate on apple through their apple devices...Id like to see all these haters never use an Apple product again! The true user base would have much less congestion.

Yeah, it's just awful to disagree with or complain about choices made by the company that makes your tech products.
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Well, iTunes is largest in the world music retailer, Apple music is like 15 million paid subscribers already and has brought 1 billion dollars in revenue in its first months. It already one of main music streamers. Sure, it means Eddy is doing something right, eh?

This is likely because they started the whole thing, sorta like DOS/Windows back in the day. Doesn't mean it's free of many issues and poor decision making.
 
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Well, iTunes is largest in the world music retailer, Apple music is like 15 million paid subscribers already and has brought 1 billion dollars in revenue in its first months. It already one of main music streamers. Sure, it means Eddy is doing something right, eh?

not really when you consider that would probably happen no matter who was in charge. Hell put one of us in that spot and apple will still have crazy stats like that because people love apple even if its not the best option sometimes.
 
"
Eddy Cue Says Apple 'Not Trying to Create TV Shows,'"

well, it's not like you are trying to create a competitive phone either... so what are you doing?

Oh give it a rest, for goodness sake.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: This man is a bozo, you know, the one Steve Jobs warned us about. He's dangerously high up for one too... He seems a bit lazy, screws things up now and then, but he's great at parties! All are signs of a bozo.

I don't think our vantage point gives us any reason to judge. I'm sure someone on the executive team might have spotted this, if not Tim Cook himself.
 
iCloud should be given to someone else. Perhaps if he could focus 100% on iTunes, Music and TV they would get better.

If you listen to his comments over the years he clearly doesn't believe their is a problem. Personally I think Eddy Cue is the problem. Get rid of him altogether and maybe things would start to get better.
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I have no idea if he's the "right man for the job." Nor do you. The difference is that I am not arrogant enough to pretend that I know how to run the richest company in the world better than the people who are actually doing it. That was my point.

Maybe EA will make an new SIMs Apple version, and you can use it to prove how much better you'd do at running the company than the accomplished people who are doing so now.

You're arrogant enough to condemn anyone who disagrees with you.
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Part of me really hopes that things will change, also when you look at the execs, looks like they are crusing , waiting for thier retirements, trying to maximise thier payouts....hence the push to max profits . Just a theory anyway.

Interesting theory. Steve Jobs was focussed on the products and ignored the share price. Tim Cook has done the exact opposite focussing on the share price and ignoring the products. I think you're right. The top team are simply coasting to retirement and keeping the share price up so they can all retire with a huge cash pile.
 
You're amazing. The only, rather obvious fact here is that you lack a great deal of comprehension and continue to "babble" to your own drum of "only Apple can judge whether their products are stagnating or not, because neither of us are in a good position to determine that for are not employed there".

I like your scraping the shoe part though. It really adds the terrifyingly comical flavour to your non-sense.

But the products are not "stagnating." The fact of the matter is that there is more change coming out of Apple the last 4 years than there was during what so many people view as the "golden" years.

A bunch of tech nerds on a fan site who have a heart attack every time Tim Cook or Jony Ive scratches their butt is not the real world. Until this last quarter Apple increased sales every quarter for about 10 years. The services that Cue oversees, many of which didn't even exist just a few years ago are becoming a bigger and bigger part of Apple's overall revenue. And all of this is happening in a very competitive atmosphere where two of their biggest competitors are either giving away most of their products for "free" or are loss leadering a bunch of their stuff to create volume and ecosystem lock in.

Instead of being arrogant enough to suppose you know the inner workings of Apple, and whether a particular employee is doing their job effectively perhaps you should concentrate on your own life. If Apple's products and offerings are upsetting you that much just move on and use another company's products. Because when you make ridiculous claims of knowing whether an employee should be fired with no real knowledge of the situation you look like a fool.

Oh, and thank you. But I already know I'm amazing.
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Why? We judge our politicians , sports stars etc etc based on performance. What makes these execs so special that we cannot voice our opinions on an apple website. Cause you said so.....give it up.

As fans, apple users, or shareholder we have every right to have an opinion how these highly paid individuals are performing.

make sure you get the right foot into the right shoe bud....

Lay off the thought police work, you are not very good at it, we can voice our opinions without you calling us arrogant etc.

Actually, you're wrong on three fronts.

First, Politicians work for you and I. So it's our job to judge their performance. Sports stars entertain us directly, and their work is on display transparently for us every time they walk out into the arena. It's our responsibility to "judge" them.

Second, I never said you couldn't voice your opinions on how the executives are performing. What I said is that, unless you're in the inner circle you have no clue how well Eddy Cue is doing his job, and your opinions are nothing more than the rants of an ignorant outsider.

Third, you cannot, in fact voice your opinions on this subject without me calling you arrogant. Because watch this: If you think you're in a position to determine whether Eddy Cue should be fired you're arrogant, and ignorant to reality.
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You're arrogant enough to condemn anyone who disagrees with you.

LOL. People really get upset when you tell them they're talking out of their a**. Truth hurts, huh?
 
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But the products are not "stagnating." The fact of the matter is that there is more change coming out of Apple the last 4 years than there was during what so many people view as the "golden" years.

A bunch of tech nerds on a fan site who have a heart attack every time Tim Cook or Jony Ive scratches their butt is not the real world. Until this last quarter Apple increased sales every quarter for about 10 years. The services that Cue oversees, many of which didn't even exist just a few years ago are becoming a bigger and bigger part of Apple's overall revenue. And all of this is happening in a very competitive atmosphere where two of their biggest competitors are either giving away most of their products for "free" or are loss leadering a bunch of their stuff to create volume and ecosystem lock in.

Instead of being arrogant enough to suppose you know the inner workings of Apple, and whether a particular employee is doing their job effectively perhaps you should concentrate on your own life. If Apple's products and offerings are upsetting you that much just move on and use another company's products. Because when you make ridiculous claims of knowing whether an employee should be fired with no real knowledge of the situation you look like a fool.

Oh, and thank you. But I already know I'm amazing.
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Actually, you're wrong on three fronts.

First, Politicians work for you and I. So it's our job to judge their performance. Sports stars entertain us directly, and their work is on display transparently for us every time they walk out into the arena. It's our responsibility to "judge" them.

Second, I never said you couldn't voice your opinions on how the executives are performing. What I said is that, unless you're in the inner circle you have no clue how well Eddy Cue is doing his job, and your opinions are nothing more than the rants of an ignorant outsider.

Third, you cannot, in fact voice your opinions on this subject without me calling you arrogant. Because watch this: If you think you're in a position to determine whether Eddy Cue should be fired you're arrogant, and ignorant to reality.
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LOL. People really get upset when you tell them they're talking out of their a**. Truth hurts, huh?

Nonsense .

Never said I was in a position to determine if he should be fired. Nor did I ever say he should be fired, stop making things up. I can though have an opinion about his performance

Sorry mate can't teach you basics of the responsibilities of execs to stakeholders. If you ever make it to any significant managerial position , look back this post .
 
I know it's not uncommon to be critical On MacRumors. However, I saw Cue at Starbucks a few months back. Let me tell you, he really is arrogant in real life as he is on the stage.

I know Eddie is one of the original team members from Steve Jobs past times. But, it seems so awkward that he is part of the Apple team. Almost like when he wears his Hawaiian shirts driving in his Ferrari.

How so?
 
Nonsense .

Never said I was in a position to determine if he should be fired. Nor did I ever say he should be fired, stop making things up. I can though have an opinion about his performance

Sorry mate can't teach you basics of the responsibilities of execs to stakeholders. If you ever make it to any significant managerial position , look back this post .

It's okay, he seems to have some unresolved issues. We did what we could.
 
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I guess I don't have a literal experience for you or a direct contact in person with him, but it's the way he carries himself, it's hard to explain. He just portrays himself as pretentious. I can't say if he is or is not a genuine person.

You know when you see someone who notices you, but they act as if they don't see you, only using their cell phone as a defense mechanism to ignore you or appear occupied with more important details, that's how Cue appears to me. Of course, everyone's experience may vary.

But we all have persona instincts and he just bolsters someone who indirectly adverts his arrogancy.
 
Do you know that the Internet has deemed body shaming as illegal?


How is that body shaming? All was said was "That Picture of Eddie." By no means are you able to portray what that individual was thinking or pondering at the time that post was generated. Seems your the one insinuating negative demeanor.
 
Tim "beancounter" Cook. Phil "innovator my ass" Schiller. Eddy "no clue" Cue.

The dream team. Together they have turned a company I admired into something I almost despise these days.
Add Jony "Thin over Function" Ive to that list. This company has had a huge hole since scott forestall was force out by Cook. Its a joke that S.F. was fired for maps, but look at how maps and SIRI have languished since then for YEARS. They need a new CEO that would give greater emphasis to software and services. I would rather run iOS on an HTC 10 or GS 7Edge than the iPhone 6/6+/6S/6S+ (vastly overrated bland designs). Maybe it could be Federighi. It least he actually uses a computer which I have my doubts about both Cook and Ive.
 
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Steve Jobs saved Apple from bankruptcy by NOT tying the success of the company to Wallstreet like Tim Cook. True innovators, like Elon Musk or Steve Jobs look beyond the horizon of fickle share prices and take risks based on their passion/vision for the future; Tim Cook merely wants to keep the ship afloat as it veers toward an iceberg.
 
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Nonsense .

Never said I was in a position to determine if he should be fired. Nor did I ever say he should be fired, stop making things up. I can though have an opinion about his performance

Sorry mate can't teach you basics of the responsibilities of execs to stakeholders. If you ever make it to any significant managerial position , look back this post .

LOL. I've been a manager, and then a director of a very successful organization for 20 years. And quite a few of the people I have managed are now managers, directors and chiefs within my own and other organizations. So I'd say you're a bit late to teach me anything about being a good manager, mate.

And if you back on the thread you will see I haven't made anything up. You're correct. You can have an opinion. But that opinion is based on limited information, and a myopic view of the facts, so it's worth zip.
 
Is Eddy even trying to create anything these days?

Brand recognition for when he sells himself elsewhere?
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While the whole "Steve wouldn't" thing has gotten old, it's fun to think about if Tim said "no" more often than "yes" these days

Cook was handpicked by Steve.

Never mind Steve has been dead for years. Cook isn't a carbon copy either way, and Steve wasn't exactly perfect either... but the myth sure sounds purdy nice... even politicians thought those aspects were keen, ignoring others.
 
how about creating a new mac or updating the old overpriced garbage they are still selling to us. Apple is run by a bunch of idiots
 
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LOL. I've been a manager, and then a director of a very successful organization for 20 years. And quite a few of the people I have managed are now managers, directors and chiefs within my own and other organizations. So I'd say you're a bit late to teach me anything about being a good manager, mate.

And if you back on the thread you will see I haven't made anything up. You're correct. You can have an opinion. But that opinion is based on limited information, and a myopic view of the facts, so it's worth zip.

I really doubt that, by that I mean a large scale company like Apple, so you understand how executive structure works....anywho

Let me help you.

opinion
Noun
a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Here is the definition of "opinion" explain how mine with worth zip...... Seriously....actually don't!!! go enjoy your weekend, than is painful and a waste of time .

When you underhand the difference between a fact and an opinion, look me up ;)
 
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