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you're not cutting yourself?? dammit...guess its just me :(

Nope no cutting yet. I'm on Elements 12 step program. I'm on step 4. Deny everything and pretend there is no problem. Just keep telling yourself " it's in the mail. It's in the mail, It's in the mail" Sooner or later the need to cut yourself gets overridden by a strong urge to throw yourself off a bridge..........That's step 12 :D......................I don't know why the pamphlet stops at step 12 ;)
 
Just got an email. My order (which I placed august 16th). Will ship in the next 3-5 business days.
 
No, worries Just don't hold it the way Bill Gates says to hold it and it will be ok.
Something about Steve's butt and cramming something. I don't know what the hell that guy is talking about. :D

LMAO.

I'll miss this thread when it eventually dies. You guys are so funny. And I'm the mean drunk in the bunch. Well at least I was to one poster. :D
 
Anyone know when they're going to have custom engraving available with your order because I have seen a couple with it so they already can do it but they haven't offered it to the public yet
 
So now that many have lived with the vapor for a few weeks what's the verdict on the scratching potential - are they holding up OK in the pocket with keys, change, the table lay, etc?

If scratches concern you I recommend the silver color. It is pretty much the color of aluminum unanodized. For all I know the silver color may not be anodized. Anyway scratches would not show as much. I haven't scratched mine.
 
Best Sounding Solution (Beware - Mod)

I don't get it. I wonder if in mounting the case it at times touches the antenna if care isn't taken. just a theory but repeatedly putting on and taking off the case may compress the insulation. I put it on and haven't messed with it. I still get 4 even on occasion 5 bars (rare). with the apple bumper I was getting 3 bars. I was watching it after ios 4.02 up to the time the vapor arrived in preparation.

I guess I should consider myself lucky. the Greenberg group's review certainly shows that is rarely the case. Of course they were all testing in the same office and/or the same city.

I've been lurking this thread as well as the first one that was closed since the first part of August when I first saw a picture of this case on a tech website. I have been coveting this thing ever since. I put in my pre-order request shortly afterward, and have heard nothing yet, but that is another issue. I know alot of folks would like this thing to work right out of the box and I totally agree. For something you pay that much for - it should. So I just want to put that out there right away.

With all blame, conjecture, what ifs and should haves aside, I really think that what archrider has touched upon here is the answer to about 95% (if not 100%) of the problems most have been seeing with the Vapor 4. I believe that a full insulating barrier around the inside of the case - and what it would do to alleviate signal issues for most, if not all radios on the iphone 4 - would be enough to convince a lot of people to keep it. Of course their willingness to modify the case themselves will factor into it until Element realizes (if they haven't already with version 3) that this should be integral to its design, so if you don't even want to consider trying to mod this thing, by all means, send it back or sell it on eBay. But to me, it sounds like such an easy fix for such a major issue. Of course this is all speculation on my part, but it's based on comments from people like archrider and the fact that in the many pictures I've seen of the thing, the padding appears to be way too sparse as well as way too compressible, that I really do think this is a fixable issue for the consumer - if they're willing to give it a try.

With that said, and the fact that I don't yet have a case to try it on, I've done some research on what I thought could be used on the inside of this case. The criteria I used was high impact, compression resistant, non-conductive, one sided foam tape that had to come in a 1/4 inch width (the width of the antenna on the iphone) and be no more than 2mm thick. What I found was 3m Urethane Foam Tape 4116. It comes in the quarter inch width and is 1.6mm thick. With that thickness there will be some compression to get the case on, but I believe if you remove the "high tech" stuff before you apply this, it should compress just enough to provide a nice, tight - but still cushioning - cradle as well as enough standoff between phone and case to prevent any contact between the two. The nice thing about this stuff is that both Home Depot and Lowes carry it - at least they do in Albuquerque.

So, barring me from receiving a third version that addresses this issue, I'll be doing this to my case when it comes with a high level of confidence that it will fix most if not all of the reception problems being seen now.

So now all I need now is someone who already has a case to use as a guinea pig - lol!
 
another review..sorry if its been posted already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjRRZ0OfKkY

the reviewer says the death grip reduces bars although he couldn't demonstrate it. My feeling is even a slight death grip flexes the side with no middle insulator so that the case touches the antenna. The case is fairly rigid but with the 3" or so span between insulators it may flex enough. Still just a theory, I'm going to test the 3m tape frankwil was good enough to suggest.
 
the reviewer says the death grip reduces bars although he couldn't demonstrate it. My feeling is even a slight death grip flexes the side with no middle insulator so that the case touches the antenna. The case is fairly rigid but with the 3" or so span between insulators it may flex enough. Still just a theory, I'm going to test the 3m tape frankwil was good enough to suggest.

It's not THAT rigid. The sides are very thin. Take the case, without phone installed, and just squeeze on the sides (near the center of each side). You can see the deflection in the case. And this thing is built to very tight clearances, so it takes literally maybe a half of a millimeter of inward deflection before it comes in contact with the antenna under it (when installed, of course).
 
the reviewer says the death grip reduces bars although he couldn't demonstrate it. My feeling is even a slight death grip flexes the side with no middle insulator so that the case touches the antenna. The case is fairly rigid but with the 3" or so span between insulators it may flex enough. Still just a theory, I'm going to test the 3m tape frankwil was good enough to suggest.

I didn't experience any death grip issues. The case does/may generally reduce registered signal, but holding the phone seems no different than any other case.
 
I didn't experience any death grip issues. The case does/may generally reduce registered signal, but holding the phone seems no different than any other case.

I can have the phone on a table and have 4 bars. If I pick the phone up with one finger at each midspan of the case sides, just raising it an inch or so I start to lose bars.

I just tried it, not raising it from the table. just squeezing with one finger per side drops bars.
 
I can have the phone on a table and have 4 bars. If I pick the phone up with one finger at each midspan of the case sides, just raising it an inch or so I start to lose bars.

I just tried it, not raising it from the table. just squeezing with one finger per side drops bars.

That's not unusual on many/most cases and most phones. That's not the iPhone 4 death grip. Your frame could be making contact with the phone and something else is happening, but that didn't happen to me in my testing.
 
Has anyone with a vapor case have any kind of antenna wrap on? Would that not eliminate any chance that if the case flexes it would touch your antenna?
 
Has anyone with a vapor case have any kind of antenna wrap on? Would that not eliminate any chance that if the case flexes it would touch your antenna?

Look at the posts on the page just before this current page in the thread to read about posters' experience (including my own) regarding antenna wraps. Short answer: it seems to help.
 
Has anyone with a vapor case have any kind of antenna wrap on? Would that not eliminate any chance that if the case flexes it would touch your antenna?

Look at the posts on the page just before this current page in the thread to read about posters' experience (including my own) regarding antenna wraps. Short answer: it seems to help.

I can add that this subject is covered over the previous 10+ pages :eek:.
 
I don't even look at the bars anymore - I made 30-40 calls to day from about 15 diff locations after mounting my vapor last night - not a single dropped call - that's all I care about...and GPS follows me everywhere I walk with it...
 
Guys, this thread is now 45 pages long, so pardon me if I am asking a duplicate ? here...

Does this case work with dock systems like for a Logitech speaker or something like that? I don't want to pay $80 for an awesome looking case that renders my iphone 4 totally useless in the "entertainment" department...
 
Guys, this thread is now 45 pages long, so pardon me if I am asking a duplicate ? here...

Does this case work with dock systems like for a Logitech speaker or something like that? I don't want to pay $80 for an awesome looking case that renders my iphone 4 totally useless in the "entertainment" department...

I can't say for sure but I do know it didn't fit into my iHome iP88 dock when every other case, including the Apple bumper did.
 
Here's my side by side unscientific test with the wife's iPhone 4 housed in a Scosche bumper and mine also in a Scosche bumper, followed in the modified insulated Vapor 4 case. I previously posted several pages back @ post #879 showing the 3M tape I used to further insulate the iPhone from the Vapor 4 with additional pic's on post #884. Shown below are the two iPhone's comparing signal bar strength, w/o Vapor and with the Vapor. Also note that I added additional 3M tape, replacing EC's mystery insulation tape from my earlier post. I left their tape under the on/off button as not to disrupt it's use. lOOks like all is well with my Vapor 4 case, at least with the signal strength, the GPS may still be wandering ;).
 

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Does anyone know what colors they might offer for the side piece that is colored now when you get a case like my red/ black?

In other words, the red piece - what could I swap to and how much? Have they released their plans for this addition?
 
Does anyone know what colors they might offer for the side piece that is colored now when you get a case like my red/ black

Huh???

I think what you tried to say.

Can I swap my cap for a different colored cap and for how much?

14 words vs 47 words ;)
 
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