Elon Musk Claims Apple Has 'Mostly Stopped' Offering Ads on Twitter and Is Making Moderation Demands

[redbeard331]

Richest man on earth is a loser? I've heard it all now. Call him a lot of things, but he is not a loser.

This is something I was thinking about the other day. I don’t know why people associate the size of someone’s bank account when determining this? Everybody dies, I can think of lots of poor people through your history who definitely were not “losers” just because they didn’t have a lot of money. And I can think of many who were even though they were rich because they used their wealth for destruction. I used to be a big fan of Musk, but seeing the worlds richest man squander not just all that money, but his reputation, and become this toxic person who seems to share the views of some of the worst elements in society. I’d say it’s easier to associate him with being a “loser” than most people because there’s so much good he could be doing yet he chooses not to.

 

[HorstBockman]

He's sounding more and more like Trump every day: an egotistical manchild

and as "smart" as Trump, too.

 

[thettareddast]

What poeple want to see online is a far different topic than the government banning books!

the notion of expression is different between online and in books how?

so it's logically consistent to want to restrict stuff you 'see online', but everything should be able to be seen offline in books ?

 

[redbeard331]

match the colors and try that again

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Read this buddy. And then try again.

Conservatives in Idaho target 400 library books — but the library doesn't even own them

After nine months on the job, the library director is quitting. "Nothing in my background could have prepared me for the political atmosphere of extremism,” she said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[robd003]

FRIENDLY REMINDER: Free speech only means the government cannot jail you. It is not a 100% consequence-free move.

EDIT: smack that disagree all you want, you damn well know I’m right.

You couldn't be more wrong. Free speech is a principle that supports the rights of anyone to articulate their opinion without fear of retaliation or censorship.

The first amendment limits the US governments ability to curtail free speech.

Only dorks with bad arguments try to silence people.

 

[TVreporter]

Hey Elon, while you're at it, ask Tim why SSD and Ram remain soldered in Macs. I'm sure you'll get that answer too.

 

[BaldiMac]

the notion of expression is different between online and in books how?

so it's logically consistent to want to restrict stuff you 'see online', but everything should be able to be seen offline in books ?

It has nothing to do with online vs offline. The distinction that I made was between asking people what they want to see and government censorship. Saying I only want to see information on rainbows is very different than the government censoring everything but rainbows.

 

[raziel101]

Define Hate speech….

According to the left, when you disagree with their view points, you are promoting hate.

 

[redbeard331]

Name a few?

Which vile people gave him names, and which names did they give to ban?

I won’t even give them anymore publicity, but he literally banned people solely because some of the most extreme neo-Nazi linked propagandists told Elon to do so. You can find out who on your own easily on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1597287861451034624

 

[albebaubles]

Their decision would have nothing to do with how they feel about Musk. Their decision would be based on the fact that the Twitter platform is used to spread hate speech and lies. Trust me, Apple and Google don't give a damn about Elon Musk the man. They care about the apps which they give permission to operate on their iOS and android platforms and will protect the image of those platforms at all costs.

I wonder if it could be due to apples 30% fee and those multi color 'checkmarks'?

 

[Sayewhat]

Maybe Apple does not want to advertise or pay for endorsements. Instead, they use that money to make products great.

 

[GizmoDVD]

What's changed since Elon took over? Specifics please.

He fired/let go/they quit 75% of the staff. The ones remaining are on H1 Visas that can't afford to leave otherwise they will be deported.

I mean, theres that.

 

[steve09090]

Read this buddy. And then try again.

Conservatives in Idaho target 400 library books — but the library doesn't even own them

After nine months on the job, the library director is quitting. "Nothing in my background could have prepared me for the political atmosphere of extremism,” she said.

www.nbcnews.com

The irony of a group called "Growing Freedom" is banning free speech.

 

[Herrpod]

Good. Elon is a petulant baby.

 

[steve09090]

According to the left, when you disagree with their view points, you are promoting hate.

Wow. What an ironic comment.

 

[nylon]

You couldn't be more wrong. Free speech is a principle that supports the rights of anyone to articulate their opinion without fear of retaliation or censorship.

The first amendment limits the US governments ability to curtail free speech.

Only dorks with bad arguments try to silence people.

Incorrect. If you have the right to 'free speech' as you define it you are also subject to its consequence, whether positive or negative, as that is also 'free speech'. There is no such thing as 'free speech' in a vacuum. Certainly not in any legal framework.

 

[hans1972]

Apple cares to enforce that rule when it comes to conservative voices otherwise Apple would have banned Twitter from the App store for the Taliban and many others who are on the site. Perhaps that's yet another reason to remove the Berlin wall Apple has errected around the app store.

Apple doesn't care about the user itself, only the content the user creates.

Read the guidelines and you can easily see why Twitter might violating some of the guidelines now.

 

[ninethirty]

Man, this guy is such a whiny little b**ch.

Nobody likes you dude, take the hint.

 

[steve09090]

Incorrect. If you have the right to 'free speech' as you define it you are also subject to its consequence, whether positive or negative, as that is also 'free speech'. There is no such thing as 'free speech' in a vacuum. Certainly not in any legal framework.

100%. Free speech does not mean free from consequence.

 

[cicalinarrot]

FRIENDLY REMINDER: Free speech only means the government cannot jail you. It is not a 100% consequence-free move.

EDIT: smack that disagree all you want, you damn well know I’m right.

So it doesn’t mean you can say or do whatever the hell you want and nobody can fire you, criticize you or stop broadcasting your opinion?

On a serious note, I’m so glad that Musk, who likes memes so much and dreamed to be a relevant part of that culture, has finally managed to become the biggest joke on the internet.

 

[hans1972]

This I agree with- it’s Apple choice

But banning- not so much

Freedom of association, an essential part of freedom of speech.

 

[thettareddast]

It has nothing to do with online vs offline. The distinction that I made was between asking people what they want to see and government censorship. Saying I only want to see information on rainbows is very different than the government censoring everything but rainbows.

That survey specifically asked if the value of people speaking freely is important. One group answered low, and trended lower.

Someone wanting something censored/banned, you would agree, implies they dont want people to express it, and/or people to consume it.

How is that notionally different from saying you dont value the importance of speaking freely?

 

[vipergts2207]

You couldn't be more wrong. Free speech is a principle that supports the rights of anyone to articulate their opinion without fear of retaliation or censorship.

The first amendment limits the US governments ability to curtail free speech.

Only dorks with bad arguments try to silence people.

Nope. If you say something in my house that I find offensive and I tell you to leave, that's a you problem. I have no duty to allow you free speech in the domain that I own and pay for. Thanks to the SCOTUS we all know money is speech and I'll not support your speech with my own speech if I disagree with it. Deal with it.

 

[redbeard331]

The irony of a group called "Growing Freedom" is banning free speech.

Yea I always get a good chuckle when I see some of the names of all these groups. They think if they call themselves “Super duper mega patriot America flag truck 1776” it means they are big time patriots and just love freedom.

 

[Krispykrme]

I'll double it. Stalinism and Maosim.

Virtue signaling
Intolerable