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That is not just a problem for the nipples, but much more for the people who would love to see nipples on Facebook and Instagram, but can't because of some community guidelines that treat people like kids, who could somehow be harmed by seeing nipples.
You can blame Apple for that too, nipples == app store ban. Instagram etc cannot afford being kicked off the store.
 
You can blame Apple for that too, nipples == app store ban. Instagram etc cannot afford being kicked off the store.
I'd look into that if I was you. Reddit doesn't seem to have censored that aspect of it's content.
 
I really don’t care to get into a flame war, so please don’t take my comments as inflammatory.

Reading your comment made me realize that those who don’t like the Musk takeover see everyone that disagrees with them as the absolute worst people in the world, whom are only fit to be cast out of society and burned at the stake.

So. Why it’s interesting is that of course you would hate this Musk takeover, because you fear that it will bring out the absolute worst in society transphobes and people bashers. That’s understandable that fear.

But it’s absolutely not true. There are incredibly decent minded folk who just like everyone wants to have a better life for themselves and others, and even though disagree, do so out of a genuinely good and positive place… not out of some blind rage hate filled heart.

It’s a difference of opinion, and if people were more willing to engage and have a civil conversation, there could be some learning and understanding and TOLERANCE of different opinions and thoughts.

We all have to live together, so knee jerk reactions that “the other side is the devil” is not helping us, but dividing and destroying us.

Last point to be brave online (lol): I am happy Musk bought Twitter, and I certainly don’t believe myself to be a hater in any way. As evident by this reasonable and engaging response to your post. I care to understand and heal the divide that exists in society right now… due in large part to the online hellscape of social media that allows the worst in human tendencies to flourish anonymously and easily.

I do hope Musk is right about curbing the worst in online exchanging, just like MR here has been managed successfully: people get suspended, hateful posts get deleted, but disagreements (respectful!) and conversations/arguments are allowed to remain… and the comments speak for themselves.

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That’s mostly fair. But the post was responding to those who bundle a nebulous group of people they don’t like into “woke ideology”. “Woke” from what I can tell pretty much means being respectful of others who have differences and caring for people.

Which is pretty much what you wrote. As in, respecting each others differing opinions.

So I don’t really get this lumping people into a group. And using woke as a negative. It’s very weird and why I often as people to define what they mean by it.

Often the definitions are wildly different and surprising. Yet people use the word as an ‘bogeyman’ word. Eg, earlier in this discussion it turned out that the person using it was using it as a byword for holocaust denial. Which was a new one on me.

To have grown up discussions, using terms like “woke” or “lefty libs” or whatever to group large non-organised sections of society together is not the route to a positive debate. People within those ‘groups’ don’t agree with each other, and by creating a barrier of “you’re in that group I hate” it immediately creates animosity.
 
Freedom of speech should only have its borders within the laws. So as long as someone is identifiable on Twitter, I think Twitter should not censor him, because he can still be taken to court.

The Trump case shows the problem. Banning him did not just silence one person (at least on Twitter), but it also affected his more than 70 million followers who could not longer see his tweets. So it is not one censorship, but 70 million censorships at the same time. It is like banning female nipples. That is not just a problem for the nipples, but much more for the people who would love to see nipples on Facebook and Instagram, but can't because of some community guidelines that treat people like kids, who could somehow be harmed by seeing nipples.

The Alex Jones case showed that you can successfully sue somebody in front of a regular court for his tweets, posts and videos. Courts are the place where things like those should be settled. Let him posts what he wants and then sue him later! Censorship is only needed if somebody does something obviously illegal like posting nude photos of someone else that could not be repaired.
The “Nipples Argument”.

I hope that one takes off. Haha
 
That’s mostly fair. But the post was responding to those who bundle a nebulous group of people they don’t like into “woke ideology”. “Woke” from what I can tell pretty much means being respectful of others who have differences and caring for people.

Which is pretty much what you wrote. As in, respecting each others differing opinions.

So I don’t really get this lumping people into a group. And using woke as a negative. It’s very weird and why I often as people to define what they mean by it.

Often the definitions are wildly different and surprising. Yet people use the word as an ‘bogeyman’ word. Eg, earlier in this discussion it turned out that the person using it was using it as a byword for holocaust denial. Which was a new one on me.

To have grown up discussions, using terms like “woke” or “lefty libs” or whatever to group large non-organised sections of society together is not the route to a positive debate. People within those ‘groups’ don’t agree with each other, and by creating a barrier of “you’re in that group I hate” it immediately creates animosity.
Yes, “woke” as an antagonistic term is not helpful.

It is akin and also not helpful to throwing out the words: “transphobe” and “book banner” and “gay-basher”

These words are simplifying and reducing the “other side” into single groups to attack. It’s not helpful.
 
Fantastic news. And glad he fired Vijaya Gadde. Very pretentious know-it-all clown and her interview on Joe Rogan’s podcast was deplorable.
 
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Banning incels is a GOOD thing.

This is so great. Twitter was a tool to spread woke ideology and censored any opposing opinions. I got banned from Twitter for 30 days for writing that each time I see Greta Thunberg trending, I hope that she got eaten by sharks.

If a private platform is a place were hundreds of millions communicate, it should not have the power to censor anything based on strange "community guidelines". Otherwise these problem pose a great thread to democracy. The funny thing is that people from the left see it as a threat if those platform do NOT censor content. Since when was having NO censorship a threat to democracy?

I also got banned from Facebook when I wrote something like "I do not like modern women. They only focus on their career. So I swipe left if a woman has a job. Those women should better marry their boss. That helps boosting their career". That post may be controversial and women might not like it, but on woke platforms like Facebook it is enough to get banned for a while. I hope Twitter will be different now.
 
Too few realize the long-term consequences of this acquisition. It has a chance of going under but a much higher chance of becoming a weaponized pr machine for folks with questionable agendas. And yes, the latter is the only way to justify its price.

Edit: removed the speculation of Elon running for the President... Duh
 
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Yikes. I hope he doesn't run Twitter into the ground.
I hope he does because the alternative is worse. I also hope that this acquisition marks the beginning of the end of the social media disease. Not likely to happen though...
 
Yes, “woke” as an antagonistic term is not helpful.
The term "woke" was invented by those people themselves. They wanted to feel somehow "superior" because they are "woke" while others are "asleep" when it come to discrimination and other negative stuff. So it was a smart move from the right to turn this positive connotation into a negative one.

In Germany we had the annoying hashtag #ichbinhier (#iamhere). People posted that hashtag to show that someone said something really bad against someone else or a group, but they were here to show support for the "victims" of a post or tweet. I hated that hashtag, because it basically said "We are the good ones". It is pretty much like the word "woke".
 
I don't think anyone actually realises what the notion of free speech is.

You can indeed speak freely on Twitter now. But you're going to look like a dick on the public record. Firstly people will challenge you and knock you down because that's their right to do so. Secondly you're doing it on the public record and believe me there are software companies out there right now with huge databases of twitter content they can objectively tie to your reputation which will follow you around until you're dead.

Don't say anything regrettable in public.

Treat each other with respect and as equals, not crow over your superiority and your ideological superiority. Life is better that way.
What you say is true, unfortunately, and creepy as hell. Mao and Stalin would have killed for this surveillance capability.
 
Yes, “woke” as an antagonistic term is not helpful.

It is akin and also not helpful to throwing out the words: “transphobe” and “book banner” and “gay-basher”

These words are simplifying and reducing the “other side” into single groups to attack. It’s not helpful.
I don’t agree I’m afraid. Those terms are specific to a person. If someone is a transphobe then they are a transphobe. Much like if someone is racist then they are a racist. Maybe ‘book-banner’ is more akin.

But I’m less bothered about someone calling me personally woke, than I am about someone referring to large groups of people as “woke elite” or such a thing as the “woke ideology”. There is none. I am happy to own being woke because as far as I can tell, at its heart, it only has positive connotations of being respectful and caring.

I’d say a better parallel is more like lazily referring to republicans as fascists. Certainly not all are. Probably some are. But lumping all in is wrong and provocative.
 
Too few realize the long-term consequences of this acquisition. It has a chance of going under but a much higher chance of becoming a weaponized pr machine for folks with questionable agendas. And yes, the latter is the only way to justify its price. Will I be wrong to foresee Elon jogging for President in 4-8 years?
Elon was not born a US citizen so currently cannot ever run for president.
 
“The reason I acquired Twitter is because it is important to the future of civilization to have a common digital town square, where a wide range of beliefs can be debated in a healthy manner, without resorting to violence.”

Riiiiiiiight. Because unfettered, anonymous postings don't become cesspools of hate, crackpot conspiracy theories, and foreign provocateurs.
 
Great, be an adult, and ignore them. And to act as though this is suddenly new is disingenuous at best
That seems impossible in today's society. Everyone has to go out of their way to verbalize and nitpick everything. People can't just be an adult and ignore the comment, nor can they take it with a grain or salt, nor can they understand someone's opinion that differs from theirs and respect it.
 
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