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I wonder if Musk will be happy for people on Twitter to call him "pedo guy"?
 
It isn't
It's a private company

And you don't want them in the business of deciding who is "legitimate" to the point of collecting real world information about you to decide -- and then doing god knows what with that information

Well, you are entitled to that opinion. Twitter has in fact been the de facto town square since long before Elon got ticked at it, and unless he shuts it down, it still will be.

As well, there are many highly secure, 3rd party, identification services that Twitter can make use of and not retain any of your non-public info while still being able to verify you.

I have ZERO issue with something as influential as that requiring that each person using it for free be identified accurately. Otherwise, it is just a tool to spew ridiculous nonsense and hate to those who would do that.
 
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The term "free speech" has appeared in dozens of comments in this thread.

Question... does a private platform have to provide "free speech" ?

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A car company. A drilling company. A rocket ship company. And now, a social media company. You check the stock of Tesla lately?
Drilling and solar are failures, and soon the car company will come down to Earth as no one will attain > 10% share of EVs. He wasted tens of billions all because of his Ego.
 
May those who are celebrating this because they want a wider tunnel to spew vitriol and filth into the endless void of the internet someday reconsider what they value in life.

May Twitter and Facebook go out of business as penance for all the harm they've caused.
 
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What do those who are in favor of so-called heavy-handed “content moderation” say to those who are truly being harassed, silenced, chilled due the content moderation? They don’t ageee with you or the moderators, so they deserve this disparate treatment? Just maybe those being harassed and silenced want a level and transparent playing field.
 
and users hopefully have to be verified

I'm all in favor of not having anon accounts going bezerk, but I'd much rather just have accounts time limited on when they can post (after new account creation) and perhaps some other tools around that to quell the fake account creation and blasting

The "verified" piece I'm mixed on until I learn more about the "how" and what information is required.

Just handing over government ID information to private companies -- I take that action very seriously and hesitantly
 
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Moderating content does in fact limit free speech, especially one-sided moderation which Twitter employs in only one direction. I LOVE to watch only one group clutch their pearls at the thought of a libertarian restoring free speech as a threat, it speaks volumes. As long as criminal behavior is controlled, it will be nice to see what happens without all the shadow banning and algorithmic promoting/demoting that is running rampant currently. Freedom is worth fighting for, glad an African American had the balls to enter the ring. Canx your accounts? Bye Felicia maybe subscribe to CNN+...
 
What do those who are in favor of so-called heavy-handed “content moderation” say to those who are truly being harassed, silenced, chilled due the content moderation?

I think we need to know more about what you mean..

Anyone running afoul of TOS should be moderated.

People don't get to do and say "anything they want"
 
Another echo chamber for racists and bigots, great.
So your solution is censorship. I see. smh
Hey, I dislike these people as much as you do but censoring them is not the answer. Do you know why? because later they will find a reason to censor the people YOU like and then what will be your position?
Its amazing people don't see this.

Just look at ACLU TAKING A STAND FOR FREE SPEECH IN SKOKIE case. Google it if you don't know about it. Hopefully will open your eyes.
 
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Moderating content does in fact limit free speech, especially one-sided moderation which Twitter employs in only one direction.

Do you have evidence to support that beyond anecdotal claims?

(loud voices of displeasure or protest don't necessarily give us good data on what's really going on)
 
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I’m still trying to figure out how important Twitter actually is. According to its users, it’s the single most important communications medium the world has ever known, but if you poll any group of people on the street, most will tell you they don’t use it. So, is it actually important, or is it just a bunch of self-important wannabes pretending their part of engaged in some great, modern world wonder? It seems more and more to just be a handful of people in an echo chamber hyping each other up and screaming at the rest of us to take them seriously.
Twitter is the biggest text-focused social media platform that doesn't really have different sub-platforms. On the other hand, with Reddit, you have sub-Reddits, with Facebook, comments are attached to a post, which is attached to a page. With Twitter, every user is basically in the same group, and there really isn't a difference between posts and comments. There are some interesting dynamics when there are fewer barriers between different communities. You see people interact with each other that probably wouldn't interact as much on a more siloed platform like Reddit.
But this means that moderation may have to work differently, with Reddit, Facebook, Discord, etc, there are subgroups that have their own community moderation, while Twitter doesn't have that.
 
I'm all in favor of not having anon accounts going bezerk, but I'd much rather just have accounts time limited on when they can post (after new account creation) and perhaps some other tools around that to quell the fake account creation and blasting

The "verified" piece I'm mixed on until I learn more about the "how" and what information is required.

Just handing over government ID information to private companies -- I take that action very seriously and hesitantly
I absolutely agree about "how to verify" and I hope, considering Musks success, he'll find a way of keeping bots and other toxic users away from the platform.
 
By ‘free speech’ he actually means ‘hate speech’, of which there’s already more than enough of that on Twitter! Time for me to give up the platform I think.

Ah good old greed is alive and well in America, where if you are rich enough you can control all social media. Can’t wait to see how the platform meltdowns after this disaster.

yeah I don't think you know what you are talking about. 99% of the hate speech and misinformation is due to bots and fake accounts, which Musk wants to eliminate and verified human accounts. Ironically this will done with AI.
 
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Do you have evidence to support that beyond anecdotal claims?

(loud voices of displeasure or protest don't necessarily give us good data on what's really going on)
And for all the complaints about unfairly targeting one side or another, Twitter is happy to promote more of whatever view you follow. If I click on a tweet from a MAGA type and scroll past the replies, there is a section below with dozens of more tweets from other MAGA folks.
 
Hate speech and incitement to violence is not ‘free speech’.

Depends on what you consider "hate", but in the U.S. at least, the Supreme Court has ruled the 1st amendment right to Free Speech covers a lot of stuff that many people consider hateful. The Skokie case (where the ACLU was once among the supporters of free speech) is one example.
 
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