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I'm not saying I'm an Elon fan or something like that... To be honest I don't enjoy the idea of a single man having so much power on multiple important aspects of the world such as electricity, transportation and communications.

But I can't also agree with this ongoing speech that says that billionaires are the key to end the world problems. Poverty doesn't exist because of lack of resources, it exists because there's no interest in solving this problem. E.g.: If all countries donated something like 1% of their GDP we would be talking about more money than those billionaires have.

Mankind as a whole is the problem
Fair enough, I can agree with you there. Billionaires are not the answer, but unfortunately I don't see the problem as solvable when you have billionaires controlling the government and media. Until we can dissolve this massive concentration of wealth, the root cause remains.
 
Millions of cars that yet have to deliver on features promised years ago. A vacuum tube train that isn't a train and not in a vaccum. A truly boring company making tunnels nobody needed for close the same cost as everyone else.

Musk is constantly claiming to "revolutionize" the world, and people buy it, while all he does is make very smart sales pitches while maintaining the veneer of being some kind of genius. Dude is smart, and dude knows how to use his persona, you can't take that from him, but that doesn't change the fact that SpaceX is probably his only endeavor that actually "did" something, and how that will pan out is yet to be seen.

1) Tesla outsold all luxury car brands - MB, BMW, Lexus, Audi in Q1 of 2022. The Model 3 outsold the Toyota Camry in Q1 2022. The road to the EV revolution was paved by Tesla as written above.
2) SpaceX also runs Starlink with thousands of satellites in the air right now offering broadband to people who were never able to get it previously



I try to be as objective as possible. This guy has definitely changed the world.
 
For the good of mankind Twitter needs to be shut down. A lot of idiots pretending as intellectuals shape public opinion to divide our societies.
The internet is a genie is out of the bottle and now that the idea is out there it can’t be put back. Shutting down Twitter will just allow another to be the next.
 
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I am not a part of either political party in the U.S. However, there is definitely anecdotal evidence that Twitter and other social media platforms have suspended and banned people for political opinions/ideas. This is wrong and bad for society no matter what side is being banned Or suspended. The problem here is that Twitter has never embraced a philosophy of who they are. Are they the public town square, or are they a company to disseminate news and information, or what are they? They want it both ways: They want to be and open forum for everybody while still maintaining tight control over the speech on the platform. That just doesn’t work. If Musk is successful I hope that Twitter can truly embrace free speech and stop with the namby pamby excuses for its banning of some information and people while others are allowed.
Is racism, misinformation, and bigotry considered a political opinion/idea?
 
1) Tesla outsold all luxury car brands - MB, BMW, Lexus, Audi in Q1 of 2022. The Model 3 outsold the Toyota Camry in Q1 2022. The road to the EV revolution was paved by Tesla as written above.
2) SpaceX also runs Starlink with thousands of satellites in the air right now offering broadband to people who were never able to get it previously



I try to be as objective as possible. This guy has definitely changed the world.
Oh I’m not denying that he changed the world, I’m not certain for the better, however. As for StarLink ….. that really has yet to pan out financially. Although I’m pretty optimistic.

But please do not forget that owning a Tesla is a good portion virtue signaling. And if „The EV revolution“ really was the best path forward we had - smarter people than me will decide that, but I don’t think that you can solve the problem of everyone having cars with more, slightly different cars.
 
For the good of mankind Twitter needs to be shut down. A lot of idiots pretending as intellectuals shape public opinion to divide our societies.

Does that include Apple and its employees too then?

Could be lot worst people then Elon wanting to buy it. Will be interesting if they sell. Not fussed, actually think Elon could be good for it.

Do you know where Elon Musk was born?

Hint: It wasn't in the U.S.


Funny how people think he's American despite his accent.

The hatred for Elon Musk here is unreal haha

Apple people surely hate Elon and Android. Sheesh

Some Apple fans I believe though we're praying Apple would buy Tesla when rumours of them making a car surfaced. Ironic eh?
 
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Do you know where Elon Musk was born?

Hint: It wasn't in the U.S.


He's South African soooooo that's impossible........

He can't. He is not a natural born US citizen and the Constitution prohibits such.

My bad, I was wrong with my theory. I thought that US citizenship (which he has) was sufficient.

Then he could always run for some other office, as Schwarzenegger did in CA. Or use the platform for some other forms of fu**ery as a bratty billionaire would inevitably do.
 
I think he pulled out the board as a member of the board cannot purchase more than a certain amount. This is due to power control among board members; musk won't be able to purchase more if he joined.
Yikes. And we landed on the moon. ?
 
For the good of mankind Twitter needs to be shut down. A lot of idiots pretending as intellectuals shape public opinion to divide our societies.
If it doesn't happen on Twitter, it will happen elsewhere, and probably be less visible. A lot of good happens on Twitter too. It gives platforms to smaller groups, including Apple rumours, which is where content from this site comes from.
The divisions will still happen whether Twitter exists or not, but they will happen in siloed communities.
 
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It's another "pump and dump" scheme. He's already threatening to sell his shares of Twitter if he's not allowed to buy it. Just Tuesday, a Twitter shareholder is suing Elon because he didn't disclose his 9% stake in the company until much later than he was supposed to.

Also, two points.
1. Buying a website for $43 billion to implement your version of free speech isn't free speech.
2. Free Speech only applies to the government, NOT private websites.

So many people get both of those points so wrong.
 
Now I like Elon as a person. He has made the world a better place. A lot of people are all talk, but he has definitely put his money where his mouth is. Sometimes he talks too much and makes a bit of a fool out of himself but I'd rather have a guy who runs his mouth sometimes than some picture perfect media puppet where everyone knows it's just a facade.

But Elon buying Twitter - or not buying Twitter - is not really going to solve the underlying issue we are facing here: that social media has become a harmful oligopoly that needs to be reined in. Google, Twitter, Facebook (or Alphabet, Meta and... still Twitter) are in control of the modern town square. They should be classified as utilities and forced to be more transparent. This means opening up alogrithms to independent auditing, this means opening up what happens with moderation, this means sticking to one set of rules and applying them equally to everyone. I am sure no billionare would like this, but it's what I believe needs to happen.

Maybe Elon is going to make Twitter better. Maybe he is going to make it worse. But in the long run it's not going to change much.
 
"Elon Musk, founder and CEO of Tesla, has offered to purchase all of Twitter for $54.20 per share, valuing the company at $43 billion, in a letter to the social media company's chairman of the board, Bret Taylor."

Translation...

"Elon Musk wants to make even more money by manipulating stock prices short term by announcing his offer to buy all of Twitter"

Some claim him to be a Steve Jobs-type, I see him more along the lines of P. T. Barnum.
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But Elon buying Twitter - or not buying Twitter - is not really going to solve the underlying issue we are facing here: that social media has become a harmful oligopoly that needs to be reined in. Google, Twitter, Facebook (or Alphabet, Meta and... still Twitter) are in control of the modern town square. They should be classified as utilities and forced to be more transparent. This means opening up alogrithms to independent auditing, this means opening up what happens with moderation, this means sticking to one set of rules and applying them equally to everyone. I am sure no billionare would like this, but it's what I believe needs to happen.
You really want the government to get involved to classify a website as a utility because you don't like how it's being run? That's just asinine.
 
You know what? Do whatever. Twitter is only good for some announcements, memes, and p*rn now (and frankly there’s better places to get all those). It can only go uphill from here, I guess.
 
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