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A company or service like twitter should never be made private. It’s too important and always needs to be public to ensure it remains bipartisan/neutral and equal participation of everyone is ensured.
I would agree but it doesn't operate in a completely bipartisan/neutral manner with equal participation of everyone ensured. I also don't think Elon buying it would fix that. The problem is deeper than that. A subscription (hate them, but possibly?) a public utility, who knows. But the way it operates currently + the way it would if Elon owned it would only shift it in a different direction.
 
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So you want the platform to censor people you don't agree with, but not censor ideas you agree with.
You're right. I believe the individual should do the censoring, not the company, not the 'committee' or whatever else they will come up with whenever something 'bad' happens. There are flaws in society and you can see them out in the open on places like Twitter, but censoring them sure won't make them go away. They only go away in 'your world' in your imagination.
 
People such as Alex Berenson have been kicked of Twitter for speaking the truth of the vaccine last summer. What he said that got him kicked off is now being said by the CDC. He was just quicker to the truth.
Can you provide this documentation by the CDC agreeing with what he was banned for? I saw the tweet around a "limited window of efficacy and a terrible side effect." I think the limited window comment is somewhat fair, but I haven't seen anything on terrible side effects (only unproven misinformation). From as far as I remember, I knew going into it that the vaccine was meant to stop serious illness and death, which it does. I could understand why a platform wouldn't want high profile people spreading incomplete or inaccurate information downplaying the effectiveness of a vaccine that has been proven to be extremely effective by every long term study. Especially when the country is trying to prevent their citizens from dying.
 
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The notion that the privileged children of wealthy people have "earned" the right own the world is out of control.

Here's how it works.

Elon is very wealthy.
Elon made an offer to buy a company.
If company accepts, Elon becomes owner.
If company rejects, Elon doesn't become owner.

You act like him making an offer is him strong arming Twitter into making them sell so he can "own the world" as you say.
 
I am all for Elon if he does make Twitter censorship-free. Yes, we MUST allow all voices even the ones we dislike. This is what Freedom of Speech means.
I don't care for Twitter as a platform and barely post something there, but is undeniable the platform has a big influence on the politics and society we live in.
 
For the good of mankind Twitter needs to be shut down. A lot of idiots pretending as intellectuals shape public opinion to divide our societies.
Whenever a social media platform gets shut down the toxic users are dispersed and make other platforms worse. I would rather twitter existed as it is even if it’s for the sake of non-twitter users.
 
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A free speech absolutist taking over a toxic platform that censors people, oftentimes for stating obvious facts? Sounds like a win for democratic societies around the world.

Twitter’s censorship has been toxic and the only people who are against Elon taking it over are people who are terrified of debate and free exchange of ideas.

If Elon starts using it to push his own ideology, I will stand corrected, but based on his history, I’d rather take my chances with him than Twitter’s history of hypocrisy and one-sided censorship.
 
The only reason to like this is that Musk is a self-described free speech absolutist. I hope this will extend to twitter if he takes over.
Of course Musk is a free speech absolutist. He doesn't want to ever be held accountable for what he says... things like falsely accusing someone of being a pedophile without a shred of evidence... and then to claim it was only a joke when he was sued.
 
This could be interesting.
Based on the growth, Twitter has serious potential in the international arena. Now add in dedicated channels for each of his businesses (Tesla, SpaceX, Starlink, ...) and owners in those businesses ...

Just a guess from my end however I can see some opportunity there.
 
What is his point for buying it other than to be an expensive troll triggering people (I saw someone say if Musk buys Twitter it will be the end of Democracy as we know it)?
 
Can you provide this documentation by the CDC agreeing with what he was banned for? I saw the tweet around a "limited window of efficacy and a terrible side effect." I think the limited window comment is somewhat fair, but I haven't seen anything on terrible side effects (only unproven misinformation). From as far as I remember, I knew going into it that the vaccine was meant to stop serious illness and death, which it does. I could understand why a platform wouldn't want high profile people spreading incomplete or inaccurate information downplaying the effectiveness of a vaccine that has been proven to be extremely effective by every long term study. Especially when the country is trying to prevent their citizens from dying.
Well, you only need to look on the CDC website at the Vaccine Adverse events. In just 6 months 384,270 adverse events have been logged there along with 4,812 deaths from the vaccine.
 
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Of course Musk is a free speech absolutist. He doesn't want to ever be held accountable for what he says... things like falsely accusing someone of being a pedophile without a shred of evidence... and then to claim it was only a joke when he was sued.
Even if his stance is because of personally selfish reasons, if extended to twitter it will benefit the society.
 
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Is racism, misinformation, and bigotry considered a political opinion/idea?
What gets labelled today as "misinformation" is almost entirely driven by political ideology. There are plenty of examples from both sides of the aisle. (Trump's "fake news", Hunter Biden laptop, etc)

As for the other two, the best way to fight racism and bigotry is to expose it for what it is, not suppress it from view. No one ever said free speech was "pretty", civil, or unoffensive. But you can't have it both ways (free and censored). Once you start labelling and suppressing speech, calling it racist, bigoted, misleading, homophobic, facist, etc, it's being driven by an opinion or ideology by definition which then ultimately leads back to political or religious beliefs.
 
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