So the total revenue now determines if a company is doing something of value? By that benchmark, Microsoft is obviously just as good a choice as Apple, since it consistently averages over 32 billion per quarter, and has over the last 5 years!And yet "nobody" have pushed Mac revenues to their highest peaks in history - to the tune of USD 35 billion in the past four quarters alone.
Heck, Tesla as a company in 2020 had total revenues just above what Mac as a division brought in over the same period.![]()
Tesla is half baked garbage? 😂Lmao, Tim Cook is a savage. Steve Jobs was very adamant to have him as next CEO before he passed, for good reason. Other CEOs would’ve either caved or reject him nicely.
Elon Musk is nothing but a tech conman. He peddles his half baked garbage to the tech nerds with deep wallets. He’s not funny at all and using 14 year old memes isn’t a personality.
“F— you” - Tim Cook lmao
Regardless of these events, Musk is a bit strange and is essentially a troll IMO.Honestly I would’ve said and done the same thing
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/...es-from-mark-zuckerberg.html?showTranscript=1we need Tim Cook to chime in on this. I’d consider him more credible than Musk lol
Something extremely successful people seem to do a lot is never say no. He didn't know if Apple would say no, so he said yes, and gave a condition. I think if Apple said yes, he would've sold it if he could guarantee he would get to run Apple for a certain period of time, get the significant number of shares associated with that, etc. Sure, Elon probably figured it was the smallest chance in the world, but the lesson is you don't say no. You never know where yes can take you, and you always reserve the right to say no in the future. I read about this concept several years ago and it has helped me make more connections and become more successful financially.I swear Musk was just screwing with Cook. He never would’ve sold Tesla and that was his was of saying it
I can’t stand either of them.hahahahah
I love some of the tech / innovation and personality of Musk
but at the same time, the guy is pretty delusional and realllllly thinks highly of himself.
Or hes just trolling and thinks it's hilarious..
I can’t believe how wrong you are in one long drawn out couple of paragraphs.Because many MacRumors readers are also capable of reading Musk's own words and adjacent stories about Tesla's behind closed doors decisions. People's dislike for Musk and/or Tesla doesn't come out of nowhere.
To your second point, based on my definition of innovation Tesla are not innovative as nothing they've produced has shifted any paradigm yet. Apple, like Tesla, don't necessarily have to invent everything they popularize (smart phones existed before Apple, EVs existed before Tesla) but Apple's product categories are significantly more paradigm shifting than changing the propulsion system of an otherwise identical vehicle. Apple's products are often ready-for-the-masses packaging of truly ground breaking innovations (Internet, cellular, GUI/displays, digital computing, etc.) that they didn't invent but the end result changes how society (or more generally speaking "a system") works.
Mac/personal computers = helped transition computers from specialized, shared tech for geeks and researchers into something useful for the everyday person, game changing
iPhone/smart phones = a connected multimedia creation and browsing device in your pocket, game changing product class that changed almost everything about how information is shared and absorbed in our society (for better or worse)
Tesla/EVs = exactly the same automotive experience except you plug in your car at home instead of at the gas station. Nothing about the way I live my life has changed driving one now vs. when I drove a gas car. If everyone had a Tesla tomorrow nothing about our society would fundamentally change except for electricity infrastructure issues and a bunch of gas stations shutting down. I don't think the same can be said for if everyone received a smart phone or personal computer overnight.
iPhone/smart phones = innovative, paradigm shifting.
iPhone/smart phone tech upgrades (camera, screens, speakers) = mostly not innovative, the paradigm has already shifted via the original innovation.
Personal, mass produced automobiles = innovative, paradigm shifting.
Automobile upgrades (seatbelts, airbags, turbo chargers, EV propulsion, hydrogen powered) = mostly not innovative, the paradigm has already shifted via the original innovation.
Note that the innovation is moreso attributable to the overarching category (the smart phone, the computer) rather than the specific implementation (the iPhone, the Mac). It's just that Apple happened to be there at the right time with the right implementation of the category to act as an ice breaker.
I don't understand why the Elon Musk fanbase thinks he's some innovative genius.
Agreed mate. I'm in Australia and literally nobody owns them because well:Telsa wouldnt turn any profit if not for government subsidies.
I can’t believe how wrong you are in one long drawn out couple of paragraphs.
For apple car because they have self driving cars and apple want to make a self driving carNow THAT would have been a good move!
Tesla is half baked garbage? 😂
My model 3 goes from 0-100km/h in 4 seconds, can travel over 400kms, charges on solar power and costs a half of the equivalent Audi.
still, I suppose my 16” MBP i9 doubles as a heater, so that’s innovative 🤷♂️
Not an argument.I can’t believe how wrong you are in one long drawn out couple of paragraphs.
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Like him or hate him… Don’t be obtuse.
Musk is interested, but one condition: “I’m CEO.”
Sure, says Cook. When Apple bought Beats in 2014, it kept on the founders, Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre.
No, Musk says. Apple. Apple CEO.
“F— you” Cook says and hangs up.
I crapping on Cook is just what is done around here but… I don’t get it.I'm confident the Board of Directors and the institutional shareholders who actually control who is CEO of Apple would keep Cook in place unless Steve Jobs somehow resurrected.