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So if a creator earns under $100K a year, Apple get's $0.

But if a creator earns, say, $200K a year, instead of Apple getting $60,000 (30%), Apple will get $6,000 or 30% of the 10%, or $20,000, that Twitter/X gets?

I'm sure Apple will go along with this idea.
Why not? This is exactly the kind of arrangement that Apple came up with for its own App Store commissions. People who make more money actually have to pay more at higher percentages.
 
Absolutely.

Virtually 100% of what Musk says about Mars is wrong. What he says about Star ship being transport for people from continent to content is also wrong. He constantly makes statements that couldn’t be more wrong. Hyperloop… Don’t make me fall over laughing. He’s clearly clueless and thinks everyone else is to. He’s lucky he doesn’t talk to me on the air. I’d make a fool out of him in five seconds.
I read this comment and think: only the anonymous internet can something like this be posted. What a crock.
 
The Elon hate amazes me. It’s like the haters think he checks MR to see what’s being said and gets his feelers hurt over your posts.

Not a huge fan of him, but don’t hate the guy. He’ll probably get nowhere with TC on this issue.

But here’s an idea to all the haters, don’t buy his cars, use X, or even pay attention to the guy. That’ll show him.
They all loved Elon before he no longer allowed Twitter to ban opposing thought. They actually loved living in a censored world.
 
That's a farcry of what OP originally said but that is still nonsensical that Elon should personally finance it as that would be unsustainable long term.

I'll let the OP speak for themselves but I really don’t think my interpretation is a "far cry" from what they meant i.e., let Musk use some of his great income/wealth (salary, compensation) to help out one of his company’s (Twitter/X) “creator” users instead asking another company to do so.



Completely irrelevant and off topic.

Not that off topic as the discussion was about Musk's income.
 
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X would comply with the rules. There's no practical way Apple could update the terms that suddenly prevents X from functioning with its core user features. If they did, X would easily win a lawsuit.

So, you're saying that there is absolutely nothing Apple could legally do to get X booted off the App Store because X Corp would either comply with the rules or sue? Musk seemed to think a bit differently as hie stated the making an alternative phone could be the answer if that were to happen.
 
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I wonder what leverage X and Meta have against Apple. Would people move from iPhones to Androids if the two companies pulled their apps from the App Store? I don’t know. Or would similar apps be developed for iPhones and catch up to the level of audience Meta and X already have? Very unlikely.
 
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I wonder what leverage X and Meta have against Apple. Would people move from iPhones to Androids if the two companies pulled their apps from the App Store? I don’t know. Or would similar apps be developed for iPhones and catch up to the level of audience Meta and X already have? Very unlikely.

Given that sideloading/alternative app store restrictions on iOS are expected to start being lifted soon, there wouldn't necessarily be a reason for iPhone users to switch to Android. If Meta and X Corp removed their apps from the App Store, interested iPhone users would likely find another way to get the apps.
 
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Elon setup:
Content creator charges $10
Patreon takes $1.50
Apple takes $0.45

Patreon/Wordpress is now glad to include IAP in their iOS app vs not including it currently which in turn opens up a large revenue stream for Apple.

Seems sound to me. If you think it's not, well that says a lot.

Yup, it says that I'm grateful you're not on Apple's board. You failed to consider that Apple pays 2.5% of the transaction value in credit card processing fees, 2.5% of your theoretical $10 transaction being 25 cents. So your $0.45 to Apple is really only $0.20, a fifteenth of the $3 they'd get. That is, unless they're not processing the transaction, in which case they may not hear about it at all and will get $0.00. I'm sure Spotify/Patreon/WP/etc will *happily* report all their sales to iOS customers, right?
 
Looks like this is a move to shift blame on to Apple for its 30% commission. Irrespective of whether Twitter/X collects fees from creators, Apple still has to process every transaction.
And how about supporting Carplay on Tesla?
 
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Well then, problem solved eh Enron?

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LOL😂

I would LOVE to see Musk make a smart phone. Maybe it will be half as successful as Hyper Loop, or Solar City... 😂🤣
 
Why not? This is exactly the kind of arrangement that Apple came up with for its own App Store commissions. People who make more money actually have to pay more at higher percentages.
Agree with you that they should give xxxTwitterxxx the same deal they give everyone else. 10% fees until $100,000+ in total revenue (to be fair to everyone else, that would be platform wide revenue -- not on the basis of an individual "creator's" subscriptions), and then 30% beyond that.

From there, xxxTwitterxxx is free to allocate the remaining revenue they receive however they choose, and if they want to make up the 10%/30% fees to the creators, they can cut them a check for the difference from the blue check subscription revenues that xxxTwitterxxx collects from their own subscribers.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.
 
I think it would serve this guy better if he would just shut the hell up. Why is he always thumping his chest and vocalizing every thought that crosses his mind? Why does he have to keep making "announcements"?

Picture Apple (whoever the decision maker is) seeing that Elon has "made" this announcement. What choice do they have but to say no? Since he's made this public, if Apple says yes then that brings in all this talk about special treatment, exceptions.

He could have just made this request behind closed doors and maybe he would have had his way. But he cannot shut up.
 
I read this comment and think: only the anonymous internet can something like this be posted. What a crock.
How so?

Musk is absolutely wrong and it's easy for anyone to see.

Do you think StarShip can take off and then land on another continent and then take off again, ten times a day? That's what Shotwell Said at Ted event. First of all, look at the launch pad after one test take-off. It was completely destroyed. Ask yourself what the force of take-off is, and once it lands, what stress would the rocket incur having escaped Earth's gravity and then came back down? And then without any refurbishment, fill up and take off again. And do that over and over again. A Falcon 9 needs almost two months of refurb to be ready for a second launch. And after ten, it's basically garbage. You think you can lift 5,000 metric tons with 42 raptor engines, ten times per day without refurb.

Let's look at Mars with some back-of-the-napkin common sense. How often is Earth in the proper alignment with Mars for an Earth-based launch? What would the flight time be to get to Mars? And what would it land on? How much force would hit the red planet and how many test flights would you think it will take for just ONE SINGLE successful landing and return to Earth? I will tell you you're looking at almost three years for one test flight. Think I am wrong, ask ANYONE with engineering skills what they think. I bet they tell you my number is optimistic at best.

Now do you believe the first test launch will succeed? If not, how many will it take to get a successful landing in which you can lift off for the return? One test? Two? Three?? Multiply that by the time duration between tests. Do you see the problem yet? Let me know when you figure it out.

Now, how long did it take us to build, launch and unfold the James Web telescope? And when you find that answer, mind you that's a telescope. Musk would have to learn to land on Mars. He would then have to supply Mars with all the needed materials to build a refueling station, and then come back as a test. How long would that take given how long it took to launch a telescope that only had to unfold in space? Go ahead, and reply with your best answer. Ask anyone. Get on Tik Tok, and ask NASA scientists to weigh in. Go ahead. Get what you think is the best answer possible and reply here with the duration of time the most optimistic answer provides.

Musk is 52. I am 55. When you get these numbers back, ask yourself this. Will Musk EVER land on Mars, build a fuel station, test it all, and launch back to Earth in HIS LIFETIME?

Back to transport, No one is going to build pads that can withstand 5000 metric tons of lift-off in major cities like airports. And even if you did, the rockets couldn't make ten trips per day, every single day the way a Jet can. Anyone telling you that this is possible, is either insane or stupid.

So why did Shotwell say it? Why does Musk say it? Because he's either insane or stupid. To everyone else, it is clear he has no idea what he is saying, just like when he said Hyper Loop would be easy. It's not easy. That's why he enlisted prizes for others to work on it. I have zero doubt that ANY engineer will tell him that keeping a long tunnel above ground absolutely perfectly pressurized is insanely difficult to do. And guess what, that alone makes it insanely expensive to do. And right there, he already loses the argument. If it is so easy, why hasn't he done it?

Full Self-driving at Musk's pace will never see completion. Not at his pace. Wrong 8 years in a row.
Star Ship used like a jet to safely move people from one continent to another. No chance.
StarShip to Mars and back, in his lifetime... Not a chance.
Maintaining 40,000 satellites in orbit for StarLink?? They only last 5 years. That will never make a profit.
 
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Who in the living hell (besides tech bros, fawning Eron fans, Martians and Crypto and NFT fools) would trust X with their investments?

The company has reportedly put out a call to several fintech giants asking for quotes and plans to build a real-time investment platform on Twitter—or “X” as Musk is calling it.

Of course:

Mind you, he’s not promising to pay anybody for their work

The New Grift™ is on, it's on like Donkey Xong.

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-really-wants-to-turn-twitter-into-wall-street-1850705315
 
How so?

Musk is absolutely wrong and it's easy for anyone to see.

Do you think StarShip can take off and then land on another continent and then take off again, ten times a day? That's what Shotwell Said at Ted event. First of all, look at the launch pad after one test take-off. It was completely destroyed. Ask yourself what the force of take-off is, and once it lands, what stress would the rocket incur having escaped Earth's gravity and then came back down? And then without any refurbishment, fill up and take off again. And do that over and over again. A Falcon 9 needs almost two months of refurb to be ready for a second launch. And after ten, it's basically garbage. You think you can lift 5,000 metric tons with 42 raptor engines, ten times per day without refurb.

Let's look at Mars with some back-of-the-napkin common sense. How often is Earth in the proper alignment with Mars for an Earth-based launch? What would the flight time be to get to Mars? And what would it land on? How much force would hit the red planet and how many test flights would you think it will take for just ONE SINGLE successful landing and return to Earth? I will tell you you're looking at almost three years for one test flight. Think I am wrong, ask ANYONE with engineering skills what they think. I bet they tell you my number is optimistic at best.

Now do you believe the first test launch will succeed? If not, how many will it take to get a successful landing in which you can lift off for the return? One test? Two? Three?? Multiply that by the time duration between tests. Do you see the problem yet? Let me know when you figure it out.

Now, how long did it take us to build, launch and unfold the James Web telescope? And when you find that answer, mind you that's a telescope. Musk would have to learn to land on Mars. He would then have to supply Mars with all the needed materials to build a refueling station, and then come back as a test. How long would that take given how long it took to launch a telescope that only had to unfold in space? Go ahead, and reply with your best answer. Ask anyone. Get on Tik Tok, and ask NASA scientists to weigh in. Go ahead. Get what you think is the best answer possible and reply here with the duration of time the most optimistic answer provides.

Musk is 52. I am 55. When you get these numbers back, ask yourself this. Will Musk EVER land on Mars, build a fuel station, test it all, and launch back to Earth in HIS LIFETIME?

Back to transport, No one is going to build pads that can withstand 5000 metric tons of lift-off in major cities like airports. And even if you did, the rockets couldn't make ten trips per day, every single day the way a Jet can. Anyone telling you that this is possible, is either insane or stupid.

So why did Shotwell say it? Why does Musk say it? Because he's either insane or stupid. To everyone else, it is clear he has no idea what he is saying, just like when he said Hyper Loop would be easy. It's not easy. That's why he enlisted prizes for others to work on it. I have zero doubt that ANY engineer will tell him that keeping a long tunnel above ground absolutely perfectly pressurized is insanely difficult to do. And guess what, that alone makes it insanely expensive to do. And right there, he already loses the argument. If it is so easy, why hasn't he done it?

Full Self-driving at Musk's pace will never see completion. Not at his pace. Wrong 8 years in a row.
Star Ship used like a jet to safely move people from one continent to another. No chance.
StarShip to Mars and back, in his lifetime... Not a chance.
Maintaining 40,000 satellites in orbit for StarLink?? They only last 5 years. That will never make a profit.

Thank you for this, after reading about all the engineering miracles it would take, and how dangerous a Mars trip really is, I realized Musk is full of it. I recently got to ask a couple NASA scientists about this very thing, I asked them if they felt a Mars mission was possible anytime soon like Musk claims and they just laughed. Between the fuel, equipment malfunctions, and radiation ☢️ there’s just so much that can go wrong.

I believe whoever goes there first is gonna be on a one way trip, I don’t see that happening until after 2050, maybe. And it may never happen, by 2050 going to Mars will be the least of our worries if there’s anyone left to worry by then.
 
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