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Engadget really dislikes the Glossy displays.
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Well that's just brilliant. I buy a laptop so I can move around and work wherever I choose. Except now I can't: you can only work where you can get an angle that doesn't suffer glare.
I use my laptop on marketing stands, so now you're suggesting I ought to re-orientate the entire stand around the laptop? Simply not practical, and hence why I bought one of the last of the old MacBook Pros. Which I guess gives Apple the last laugh for stock clearance, but it doesn't strike me as a great approach to customers. Jobs' response to the "why no matte screens" question in the keynote was just astonishingly arrogant.
In the office I have a large (matte) external screen connected. The laptop is shut.
When I'm moving about (what the laptop is built for) and want to show something to a couple of people, how do I do that? Let them look at the laptop in turns so they can individually try to find an angle that works? This sucks!
This looks bad: comparison of old and new MBP is the same room with similar ambient lights:
And opposite the notebookreview.com white looks white in both models (and not yellow).
Sorry, not true. It's a deal breaker for almost everybody I know.
Some are buying the old model, some are hoping to survive the current
glossy model with what they have now.
If the design stays and there is no matte in the future update, I really hate
to say that, but we will go back to the frickin' windowz...
It's not tilted, if you look at the black border of the new MBP you can see that it's at the same angle as the old one. Although they may both be tilted back as to reflect the lights and the shot is taken head on at the angle of the monitor.
I'm sorry but unless you're a roaming bedouin and can't find decent lighting conditions , I don't see what the big deal is?
People are ranting about the screen like its the end of the world..Just sit under a tree or something :/
Or better yet, if you can afford a macbook I'm pretty sure you can afford an umbrella and a stand and ALL IS SOLVED.
An extra .5 kg's won't hinder your portability.
People are ranting about the screen like its the end of the world..Just sit under a tree or something :/
Or better yet, if you can afford a macbook I'm pretty sure you can afford an umbrella and a stand and ALL IS SOLVED.
An extra .5 kg's won't hinder your portability.
Don't be ridiculous. People who like glossy, you've got your bloody display, you're not going to convert anyone that prefers Matte. Enjoy your displays, and let us complain about not having Matte so that we can all be happy.
On a different point, I haven't heard from many people about how the anti-glare flims are...anyone had any good results?
Ditto.
I really wish Apple would approve something and showcase them in-store so we can see if they blimming work or not!
That's ridiculous to have to buy a anti-glare film to get the matted effect. Should've been offered in the first place.
Anyhow, I was at the Apple store playing around with the new MBP. It definitely had noticeable glare that was distracting at times. If I paid attention to the glass, I could see my reflection no matter what comfortable angle I was looking at. I've never been a fan of the glossy displays, and for $2000+ I wont settle for anything less than subjectively perfect.
"The company is only offering these laptops with the high-gloss displays, and they are outrageously, ridiculously reflective."
So now the official reviews are coming in and they are confirming what we have been reporting here for a week. And still some posters are trying to argue what is fact - these glassy screens are HIGHLY reflective. Fine if you like the high gloss but many of us are more interested in looking at what is displayed on our computers, rather than our own reflections.
APPLE - GIVE US THE MATTE OPTION.
So now the official reviews are coming in and they are confirming what we have been reporting here for a week. And still some posters are trying to argue what is fact - these glassy screens are HIGHLY reflective. Fine if you like the high gloss but many of us are more interested in looking at what is displayed on our computers, rather than our own reflections.
APPLE - GIVE US THE MATTE OPTION.
Don't be facetious; he merely stated (correctly) that it's a laptop, so it can be moved around. In the vast majority of cases, people buy laptops for exactly that purpose; I'd wager very few buy them specifically to plug something on a stand. Plus, he fairly specifically stated he was talking about glare in the office, not a trade show.
On another note, the employee at the local Apple store today mentioned that he hadn't seen one 17in MBP sold since the new products came out, believing anybody needing it was probably waiting for the unibody successor. So at least here, glossy doesn't seem to be a problem. Obviously that's pretty much pure conjecture, as I've no figures to go on, but hey, it's macrumors after all
No, the film, just like the anti-reflective crt coatings, will just cut the glare while keeping all the other benefits of the gloss screen, higher contrast, truer blacks, more vibrant colors. It will not give you the matte screen.
My previous laptop was a glossy screen and i really liked it, fact is i just don't do that much computing outside, but when I am I'm not out long enough to need the extra juice, so i just jack up the screen brightness.
Have you seen the new mbp?
Was your previous screen a GLASS-COVERED one? That is the difference here. As the engaget articles states, this one is outrageous and ridiculous.
There are a lot of readers who don't live near an Apple store and have not seen this in person. All they have is the reports here by people who have actually seen it and by the media reviews as they start to come in.
I actually like glossy, but I also found that to be kind of audacious
\ Look for 2008/9, even more glare! You actually cant see part of the screen in the ad!
....again, I like glossy and all....but it is funny/sad.
Something I was wondering....Could they do some sort of high end anti glare like they do on watches? Breitlings for instance have shiny glass, but when you look at them in direct sunlight it almost looks like there is no glass at all.
I own the new BBP, the glare is worse than my previous laptop yes, but like I said, for my needs it works out fine.
Sorry, not true. It's a deal breaker for almost everybody I know.
Some are buying the old model, some are hoping to survive the current
glossy model with what they have now.
If the design stays and there is no matte in the future update, I really hate
to say that, but we will go back to the frickin' windowz...
Yea, good luck finding a new windows laptop that doesn't have a glossy screen.
Not the same angle. In the matte picture, you can see the black lines in the reflection is nearer to vertical while it has a greater degree of angle on the glossy.
I think Lenovo may be still have matte screens... it would be worth checking out. Generally, for the wintel world they are the most serious laptops as long as they maintain the old IBM philosophy of modularity and durability for the corporate IT world. Of course, Lenovo could just go all consumer on us... since all they did was buy IBM's PC division.
Yes... but the major point is still made... matte screens do have some diffused glare, but glossy screens have distinct reflections. Both may need some adjustment of angle to look their best, but glossy would be more subject to the need to adjust, IMO.