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Hmm... the entry level processor in the MBP is oddly clocked: 1.4GHz Quad-Core Processor with Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz. Anyone have any experience with these super-throttling chips? What's the performance hit?

Also...does
anyone like the Touch Bar? Still haven't seen a killer-app for it.
Some of Intel's new multi core chips have odd things like where they quote a boost speed, but that's only achievable on a single core, with the turbo speed for all (however many) cores simultaneously is significantly lower - I don't know if the base 1.4GHz speed is with all 4 cores active and if only a couple are being used they will run at a higher speed indefinitely?
 
Some of Intel's new multi core chips have odd things like where they quote a boost speed, but that's only achievable on a single core, with the turbo speed for all (however many) cores simultaneously is significantly lower - I don't know if the base 1.4GHz speed is with all 4 cores active and if only a couple are being used they will run at a higher speed indefinitely?

The 1.4 GHz speed is with all four cores active and no boost. It'll likely be able to briefly achieve higher clock at four cores, and significantly higher (probably ~3.5 GHz) with some cores inactive. Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Lake_(microarchitecture)#Mobile_processors to get a rough idea. (This particular CPU isn't mentioned there yet because Intel has yet to release specs.)
 
Please Apple, talk to people using for instance vi.

While I completely understand your point, I think vi users are a looong way down the list of people that Apple isn't talking to.

You'll just have to switch to Sublime... (ducks and runs away very fast...)
 
The 1.4 GHz speed is with all four cores active and no boost. It'll likely be able to briefly achieve higher clock at four cores, and significantly higher (probably ~3.5 GHz) with some cores inactive. Look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Lake_(microarchitecture)#Mobile_processors to get a rough idea. (This particular CPU isn't mentioned there yet because Intel has yet to release specs.)

Thanks for the explanation. How much real life difference do you predict between the 1.4 and 2.4 models? This is for uses other than continuous heavy tasking of the processor, such as PDF editing, word processing, browsing and office applications.
 
Thanks for the explanation. How much real life difference do you predict between the 1.4 and 2.4 models? This is for uses other than continuous heavy tasking of the processor, such as PDF editing, word processing, browsing and office applications.

It probably overall won't be much faster, but give it a few days and we should see some benchmarks.
 
They now have a 4 port version. Hard to find on Apple‘s website. I found it under compare. Faster CPU too. Starts at $1799.
I can’t tell if you’re trying to be a smart a55.

They’ve always had a 4 port version for 1799. The new 13 inch w/ tb has two.

I wrote that post right when it was announced. I didn’t know whether they just inserted a really low cost 13 inch with a TB and four ports or whether they left two ports but added the TB. Turns out it was the latter.
 
All this talk of needing traditional function keys makes me think someone should make a bluetooth "line of function keys." Just the function keys. It'd be like a keyboard minus the keyboard.

I rarely need to use function keys so it wouldn't be an issue to me if I had a TB, they're kind of nice? There's so much you could do with it - I don't know if devs are using it well though? How is it in Affinity Suite? If its fully programmable with whatever buttons you need most often then I can't understand the hate really. Most of us probably don't use Fkeys with any regularity (and I use keyboard shortcuts all the time) so Apple are just trying to find a way to make that space more useful to more people?
 
Maybe a TouchBar works significantly less well on a Desktop because it would be so far away from the display. What do people that use an external display as their main display with their MBP and also frequently use the TouchBar have to say on this aspect?

Well, no one particularly loves having to look down at their keyboard, if that's what you're getting at. But to the extent Apple is putting stuff in that location anyway, it makes sense to allow that option consistently.
 
Regarding TouchBar - if it's a thing, why doesn't Apple ship it in their new Mac Pro?

Regarding this upgrade - why not announce Ice Lake machines, because all your competitively-priced laptop makers are...
 
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Regarding TouchBar - if it's a thing, why doesn't Apple ship it in their new Mac Pro?

Probably because they haven't managed to scale this down to a remotely affordable external keyboard yet. (What, make it $399?)

Regarding this upgrade - why not announce Ice Lake machines, because all your competitively-priced laptop makers are...

The only announcement I could find is Dell's XPS 13 2-in-1, and they've announced neither pricing nor availability. Probably won't ship for a while. Until then, vaporware.

These new MacBooks? Their prices are known. And they ship within one business day.

Wake me up when someone can ship a 10nm Intel laptop at all, much less in volume.
 
1.4 ghz and 128 gig SSD? What is this, 2010?
I get what you are saying but watching my 2 high school boys use their macbook airs they rarely if ever use more 10GB as everything they do its on Google docs, iCloud has all their photos and videos and they are streaming all day with Apple music.
 
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I get what you are saying but watching my 2 high school boys use their macbook airs they rarely if ever use more 10GB as everything they do its on Google docs, iCloud has all their photos and videos and they are streaming all day with Apple music.
I'm okay with 128GB in a MBA. But a MBP should have 512GB standard. Even if photos and music are mainly stored in the cloud you probably wouldn't manage to install Final Cut Pro, an Adobe Photoshop/Lightroom/Indesign/... package, some audio apps and MS Office on a small SSD. Don't even consider to install a game or two. Or software development apps, including e.g. a larger Postgres database. Or have Mail.app process a 10GB mailbox. Plus, whenever Time Machine decides it needs to revalidate a backup, it requires ~30GB free space on the SSD.
 
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