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The base MBP was the last laptop in Apples lineup without PWM.

If they managed to keep PWM off this new revision, I will order it today!

Otherwise... I’m completely boxed out. :/

This is interesting. Do you have a link that discusses this about the nTB version?

I thought PWM was a phone/OLED thing. Didn’t know it happened even on laptops.
 
I still can’t believe that they’re keeping 128GB of local storage standard. That’s insane.

I get it, use cloud storage, but for the sheer sake of installing applications,
- c’mon.

The goal with the entry level model is to drive the price down as low as possible, while also creating a great experience and value for customers. Those who have more demanding needs can then pick and choose what extras they want, while everyone else benefits from the lowest possible entry level price.
 
I've seen some talk about the updated processor but can someone explain to me why Apple didn't wait until the release of Intels 10nm ice lake which is planned in a few months? Intel seems confident with supply. Is Apple just trying to make some quick cash for Back to School sales then update the Air and Pro again when Ice Lake is released. People should be putting off buying, right?
 
This is interesting. Do you have a link that discusses this about the nTB version?

I thought PWM was a phone/OLED thing. Didn’t know it happened even on laptops.
Unfortunately, I had to switch to a Lenovo X1C 6th gen for the time being. (Killer 1440p, Flicker Free HDR Screen)

I could have purchased the nTB, but it was only a dual core machine that was just too underpowered for its price.

Eye care needs to be taken more serious throughout the tech industry. Chances are extremely high to develop PWM sensitivity over time.

I have spoken with a bunch of people that suffer from it. In fact, many people that are sensitive to PWM have had Lasik eye corrective procedures in the past.

It’s a bummer
 
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Well, Apple's macbook lineup makes more sense than yesterday, everything is more up to date, more streamlined and even with a cheaper baseline that makes sense.

Someone at Apple really is caring more. Now... just scissor those pesky butterflies and everything well be OK.
Exactly!! & I’m loving it . When jobs was alive every new MacBook would get more features for the same or lower price
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So I just bought a 2018 touchbar model this weekend. Think it’s worth returning for the one updated today? The 4 ports isn’t a huge deal breaker for me btw
Honestly I think it is worth it because now u can get more storage for a cheaper price plus the it can still turbo boost to 3.9 GHz
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Boy did they gimp that MacBook "Pro" processor.....1.4 ghz? Wow. For a "pro" machine? (shake of the head).
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Amazing how they gimped it. I just re-read the specs to make sure I wasn't looking at the Air.
But it still turbo boost to 3.9 GHZ vs 4.1 GHZ
 
I haven’t read every post, but was it pointed out that this new entry level is Bluetooth 5 vs the non Touch Bar was 4.2. Also, the new Air stays as 4.2.

No, because this part hasn’t been announced by Intel yet let alone benchmarked.
 
Apple just trying to make some quick cash for Back to School sales then update the Air and Pro again when Ice Lake is released. People should be putting off buying, right?

Intel doesn’t seem that confident.
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. It’s been awhile since I’ve looked closely, we’re clock speeds this low on the previous entry-level MBP?

No, the entry-level model went from 2.3 GHz to 1.4. But it also went from two to four cores. We don’t have benchmarks yet, but it looks like it’ll be roughly the same (maybe a tad slower) at single-core and ~20% faster at multi-core.
 
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The goal with the entry level model is to drive the price down as low as possible, while also creating a great experience and value for customers. Those who have more demanding needs can then pick and choose what extras they want, while everyone else benefits from the lowest possible entry level price.
I wouldn’t mind the low base storage if the upgrades were reasonably priced (or if they were user-upgradable with standard parts like they used to be).
 
The worst possible situation now would be if Apple stopped including it in future models, because they wouldn't add any future functionality in macOS updates after that...

Has there been any software updates to the touchbar since it’s introduction?
 
I'm using a MacBook Pro from 2017 and it works perfectly! A small percentage of them are faulty.
Apple doesn’t offer this comprehensive of a warranty unless it’s much more than a “small percentage.” Usually it takes multiple class action lawsuits to get this sort of coverage.
Also: yeah my 2017 non-TB suffers from this issue. If I don’t blast the entire keyboard with compressed air once a week the tab, control and option keys all stick. And no, I never eat anywhere near my computer because I am extremely OCD, so aside from normal dust there is nothing contaminating the keys. It’s a bad design, pure and simple, borne out of Jony’s need for thinner thinner thinner.
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All the 2011 also worked perfectly until they didn't after 2-4 years.
Yeah and Apple still hasn’t offered a warranty or any sort of compensation for that dumpster fire. Heck they never even acknowledged it.
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Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. It’s been awhile since I’ve looked closely, we’re clock speeds this low on the previous entry-level MBP?
Nope. My 2017 packed a 2.3ghz CPU. Yeah it’s only dual core but unless you’re crunching video or raw audio files or compiling code those quad cores aren’t going to do much for ya. Can’t wait to see the benchmark scores.
 
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So, Apple has decided we all need to go kiddy with the #touchbar on the Macbook Pro line. One of the keys I hit most (Esc) will just become a virtual key. I guess I’ll just stick with my 2015 #MBP, at least until the #butterfly keyboard is gone and then I'll just have to dive into remapping Esc to Caps-Lock *sigh*. I expect the MBP to be fit for #professional us. Not a fancy good looking toy. Problem is, I apparently don't have a choice when it comes to replacing my MBP.

Please Apple, talk to people using for instance vi. There's a reason why the Esc key is a physical one in the top left corner. It would actually be a plus when that Esc key would become a very sturdy one as many a developer does abuse that key many times a day. Instead, you have chosen the Esc key to become a precious virtual one. To me this just proves Apple has lost contact with, at least parts of, the real world. Please wake up.
 
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