Entry-Level 13-Inch MacBook Pro Updated With 8th-Gen Processors, Touch Bar, Touch ID, and T2 Security Chip

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  1. PickUrPoison, Jul 9, 2019
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    PickUrPoison macrumors 601

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    #126
    Ive will have had a hand in everything that’s released in the next couple years, including the new MBP platform.

    Looks like 15W parts, the low base frequency and Iris Pro 645 (not 655 like the 28W CPUs) would seem to indicate that. Or maybe cTDP-down at 20W? But new CPUs in any case.
     
  2. Windoes macrumors member

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    #127
    Or maybe a high spec Chromebook?
     
  3. manu chao, Jul 9, 2019
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    manu chao macrumors 603

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    #128
    The 2.4 GHz one is a U-series processor, quad-core, 28 W TDP (Coffee Lake, 8279U - slight update from 2.3 GHz 8259U used in 2018 model)
    The 1.4 GHz version is either:
    1) Y-series, Amber Lake, 7 W TDP, quad-core variant of the 2018/2019 MBA processor (8210Y) with an Iris Plus 645 graphics added (MBA has a UHD 617), or
    2) U-series, Coffee Lake, 15 W TDP, quad-core, Iris Plus 645 (successor to 2017 2-TB-port MBP, Kaby Lake 7360U, 2.3 GHz, Iris Plus 640)

    The Iris Plus 645 indicates it's a (quad-core) successor to chip in the 2017 2-TB-port MBP. The lower base frequency of 1.4 GHz indicates it is a quad-core variant of the, lower-TDP chip in the 2018 MBA.
     
  4. nameischarles macrumors regular

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    #129
    I wish the top-end model came standard with 16gb of memory because there is a major retailer in Australia that does 10% off all Mac products every month and they never include build to order Macs as part of the 10% off sale.
     
  5. gaspitsjesse macrumors newbie

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    #130
    Aaaand it's dead! No more MacBook!
     
  6. Slash787 macrumors newbie

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    Im using the 2017 MBP without Touch Bar and its working pretty good, even though the Battery Life has decreased a lot. I get around 5 to 6 hours now, any idea how much it costs to replace the battery?
     
  7. iRutherford macrumors regular

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    #132
    I don't get why they're still using eighth-generation chips when the ninth-generation ones are almost the same price.
     
  8. Cape Dave macrumors 68000

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    Do not kid yourself. I doubt ANY average users ever bother to figure out how to use that space hogging monstrosity.
     
  9. [AUT] Thomas macrumors 6502

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    #134
    13" still has too low resolution screen... 15" needs 4K asap.
    I'm certainly not spending more than a grad on a laptop without a 4K screen...
    I'm not asking everyone here to agree on that. It should be an optional upgrade. I don't expect it to be cheap. But it should be offered.
     
  10. sub150 macrumors member

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    Agree. I'm saying the TB usage mirrors the standard nonTB usage going back a decade. No one is using the TB for anything new. No one is switching tabs using the touchbar. No one is mapping custom shortcuts to the TB.
     
  11. Galve2000 macrumors newbie

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    when will the Macbook Air get an i7 processor?

    the i5 just does not cut it!
     
  12. manu chao macrumors 603

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    The MBA uses the 8210Y (Amber Lake, 1.6 GHz, 3.6 GHz Turbo, Core i5). The i7 variant of this processor, the 8510Y comes with a small increase in frequency (1.8 GHz, 3.9 GHz Turbo). While better, the difference won't be very noticeable.
     
  13. Howard2k macrumors 68020

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    But the price will be :)
     
  14. jbachandouris macrumors 601

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    Apple is offering me $460 in trade for my 13" rMBP early 2015. Don't really see a compelling need to upgrade as this one works just fine. Want to though...
     
  15. lambertjohn macrumors 6502a

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    Says who? I have a 2018 Air and the CPU cuts it just fine. Every program I have is snappy and very usable: Photoshop, Office 365, iAwriter, the internet; it all runs without a hitch. And I get 12 hours of battery life average. Can't beat that with a dead rabbit!
     
  16. Peperino macrumors 6502a

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    Now touchbar is standard on all MBP. Why double down on something that no one wants?
    Do we need to wait 4 years so Apple realizes another mistake similar to what happened with the current keyboard?
    By the way, it also has the same bad keyboard and pathetic entry specs that are ok for a 2010 computer.
     
  17. the guy with the face macrumors newbie

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    So does MacRumors not update their Buyer's Guide anymore? I literally checked yesterday to buy a MBP and it said it's a great time to buy. I purchased yesterday only for this news to drop today. What's the point of a buyer's guide if you aren't going to update it. Surely this didn't come out of nowhere??
     
  18. redheeler macrumors 604

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    Good refresh, though $1,099 should've been the MacBook Air's starting price to begin with, and the refresh of the non-Touch Bar MacBook Pros should've happened months ago as well. Better late than never, like most of Apple's Mac refreshes lately...
     
  19. alexandr macrumors 6502a

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    perhaps they are still going to improve the touchbar?..
     
  20. redheeler macrumors 604

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    The higher-end Touch Bar models were updated just last May and are not affected by this. Only the (previously) non-Touch Bar models are.

    Blame Apple's fragmented Mac refreshes. They used to be much more consistent and easier to keep track of, with all models of MacBook Pro, or MacBook Air, or iMac refreshed at the same time. But more recently it has been a mess with the laptops, models from 2017 being sold alongside models from 2019.
     
  21. Howard2k macrumors 68020

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    The buyers guide is pretty useless. It's just a very basic "it's older so it's due for an upgrade" thing.
     
  22. alexandr macrumors 6502a

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    they're not mind readers.
     
  23. manu chao macrumors 603

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    Maybe one reason why Apple isn't offering a second processor option on the Air is to have less price overlap between models. At the moment we have these five advertised prices for 13" laptops:
    $1099: MBA, 1.6 GHz & 128 GB
    $1299: MBA, 1.6 GHz & 256 GB
    $1299: 2TB ports MBP, 1.4 GHz & 128 GB
    $1499: 2TB ports MBP, 1.4 GHz & 256 GB
    $1799: 4TB ports MBP, 2.4 GHz & 256 GB

    You can still create overlap by getting the 1.7 GHz option for the 2TB ports MBPs ($1599 2TB ports MBP, 1.7 GHz, 128 GB) and via RAM and storage upgrades (but the CPU upgrade at least keeps you within the 2TB ports range).
     
  24. Howard2k macrumors 68020

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    2x2 802.11ac wifi on all except the $1,799 (3x3) model I'd assume too. That $300 buys a fair amount if I'm right.
     
  25. snakesayan macrumors member

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    Well looks like I’m never getting a MacBook ever again. I was ready to buy an updated 13 inch non touchbar MacBook Pro, but they killed that, so they lost a customer.
     

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