Entry-Level 13-Inch MacBook Pro Updated With 8th-Gen Processors, Touch Bar, Touch ID, and T2 Security Chip

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  1. heartburn macrumors member

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    So I just bought a 2018 touchbar model this weekend. Think it’s worth returning for the one updated today? The 4 ports isn’t a huge deal breaker for me btw
     
  2. manu chao macrumors 603

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    #102
    Nope, $100 cheaper:
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  3. aylk macrumors regular

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    They also stated it was covered by the 4 year replacement program. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  4. PickUrPoison macrumors 601

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    #104
    What does Ive have to do with any of this?

    And the lower end 13” MBP always only had two TB3 ports. Also, it’s $1,299 not $1,999.
     
  5. sub150 macrumors member

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    Perhaps it doesn't, but I've watched quite a few people use MBP's with TB's and they never use the touchbar. Just like no one uses 3D Touch. Do people use TouchID...yes. Anything else...never see it other than your typical volume/brightness adjustment.

    The fact that no one even mentions TB in a positive/upsell tone is a massive alarm. It's one of those things that was probably worth a try but the adaptation is poor.

    When you look at the adaption of a soft keyboard, airpods, or TouchID (all huge, massive wins) compared to 3D Touch or TouchBar it's night and day.
     
  6. Imdougurnot macrumors member

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    #106
    Or yours is in the small percentage that isn’t.
     
  7. manu chao macrumors 603

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    I'm pretty sure more people use the TouchBar to 'access' the 'media keys' (screen/keyboard brightness, play/stop/skip back/forward, volume up/down) than for standard fn key purposes.
     
  8. Shanpdx macrumors 68020

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    #108
    wait and see the key board changes

    touch bar and everything but two thunderbolt ports so that is weird, they made another logic board to have just two thunderbolt port (or just removed the connectivity for the two more ports)

    it just lower frequency quad core CPUs (may be 15W CPU compared to 35W CPU on the higher end model)
     
  9. macduke macrumors G4

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    #109
    I recently got a tricked out 2019 5K iMac which is a beast and won't be upgrading my MBP until the ARM version comes out. My MBP is less critical for my work and would be a great bridge device for the transition period.
     
  10. kylelerner macrumors member

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    I still can’t believe that they’re keeping 128GB of local storage standard. That’s insane.

    I get it, use cloud storage, but for the sheer sake of installing applications,
    - c’mon.
     
  11. davidsspam macrumors newbie

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    #111
    Almost all my customers that have actually used the Touch Bar end up loving it. Its like Google Assistant. I thought it was useless until I actually started learning to use it.
     
  12. Maven1975 macrumors 6502a

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    The base MBP was the last laptop in Apples lineup without PWM.

    If they managed to keep PWM off this new revision, I will order it today!

    Otherwise... I’m completely boxed out. :/
     
  13. Shanpdx macrumors 68020

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    the reason it did not make to other MacBook/MacBook Air, that is where most of us concluded touch bar is not really that useful.

    MacBook Air probably the best selling laptop from apple for few years now, if I am not wrong.
     
  14. Onelifenofear macrumors regular

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    #114
    Why? just cos YOU don’t have a use for it... I use it all the time.
     
  15. nt5672 macrumors 68000

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    This is the general problems with the Touch Bar, people often miss the virtual buttons when they are accustomed to touch typing or typing without looking at the keyboard. But it makes for good press and good wow factor and is the legacy of good ol Ive form over function strategy.
     
  16. atikalz macrumors regular

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    i hate it and wont buy a MacBook PRO with it. Need haptic buttons!
     
  17. jasonefmonk macrumors regular

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    Adding the Touch Bar system (with T2 and Touch ID) seems like a good value. Also wanted to mention that this is the least expensive MacBook Pro ever released at $1,299USD in 2019. The closest is the 13.3-inch June 2012 release, which was $1,199 at the time but adjusted for inflation is ~$1,335.
     
  18. Cape Dave macrumors 68000

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    #118
    LOL, that was my very first thought. It is a sad state of affairs. Like MAYBE 1 user out of 1000 uses that stupid thing.
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    More like 1999. Sad.
     
  19. Howard2k macrumors 68020

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    Agreed.

    It's got potential but not with that keyboard.


    It would also be great to see some real tech specs too, but I guess we'll have to wait until it's released. Hopefully it's not gimped wifi like the nTB and Air.
     
  20. ovo6 macrumors 6502a

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    This how it shoulda been in the first please , Tim Cook needs to stop making cheaper iPhones and macs , jobs woulda never done it
     
  21. PBG4 Dude macrumors 68030

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    Sorry, I thought it started at $1,299, but that’s the starting price for 13” MBPs.
     
  22. spraycansoul macrumors newbie

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    Anyway to find this out? Keen to know also ...
     
  23. Mactendo macrumors 68000

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    It actually has to. To get full support from app developers. Maybe one day they will add haptic feedback to the Touch Bar, so it’ll be more usable to those who got used to real keys.
     
  24. nexusrule macrumors 6502

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    “People” yes, as in 20 people on an Internet forum though
     
  25. Geoko78 macrumors member

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    Wouldnt want the touchbar to be standard for all macbook pro line up.Anyway, its gonna be a long time since i buy another macbook pro, so hopefully something will change.
     

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