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Epic Games Announces 'Fortnite: Save the World' Will No Longer Be Playable on macOS
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When you get your developer account revoked it means they can't support either iOS or MacOS so they can't continue to support MacOS even outside of the Mac App Store.
I agree. I chuckle when someone is upset that some feature/game/service has changed or been removed. They immediately predict that users will abandon Apple in droves for doing it. Being upset at Apple for something they did is one thing. Irrationally predicting doom because of it is funny.
It looks to me like it was Epic's choice to remove the Mac app in apparent retaliation.
Xbox and playstation controllers work on ios and macos. (Though macos+Xbox controllers have issues)
I'm still not getting it. Epic could always sell subscription outside of the App Store without paying a fee, so they are concerned with the tiny percent of players which actually would pay through the App Store? Not ringing true.
Imagine advertising on Amazon that you could buy direct from the web site cheaper - not going to happen. Yet you can still go the the direct web site from Amazon, just like from the App Store, so? There is a difference? I certainly would like authors on the kindle store to advertise cheaper books on their web sites instead of on Kindle store, tired of paying Amazon tax
Imagine advertising on Amazon that you could buy direct from the web site cheaper - not going to happen. Yet you can still go the the direct web site from Amazon, just like from the App Store, so? There is a difference? I certainly would like authors on the kindle store to advertise cheaper books on their web sites instead of on Kindle store, tired of paying Amazon tax
When both are multibillion dollar companies, is goalith vs goalith.
I disagree. It’s not a separate set of agreements to publish on iOS from macOS: it’s the same developer agreement. Epic breached the terms and Apple are absolutely in the right to terminate Epic’s entire account. Epic behaved like spoiled children throughout this whole situation.
If you sign an agreement and breach one part of the agreement, you’ve breached the whole thing. That’s how contract law works. You can’t say “oh well they only breached this one part.”
Do I think what Apple takes as a cut is fair? No. Is it part of a legally binding contract that Epic signed? Yes. End of story. Apple is in the right here.
Actually in this case Epic is attempting to out bully Apple with bad behavior, bad press and breach of contract.
My hope is Epic gets put in its place, and don't think their games will be missed from IOS/Mac in any meaningful way nor do I believe there will be millions or tens of millions who will forsake Apple because of this. (I'm guessing the iphone 12 will sell magically)
Apple had nothing to do with that, Epic chose to stop supporting the Mac and trying to blame Apple, that only shows that Epic can't be trusted. I am removing all of their games from all of my devices including X-Box and PS, I am done with Epic and their lies.
While Epic (failure) could always provide their own launcher and game files straight off their website for macOS players instead of using the Mac App Store, you still need to develop these artifacts somehow. Enters the developer agreement and XCode.
You have one developer agreement with Apple. And because that was terminated because of Epic’s (failure) actions within the iOS realm, they were affected on the macOS front. And the tvOS, watchOS and iPadOS: it all goes down thru the same rabbit hole Epic (failure) created for themselves.
This is, therefore, not exactly a news article. It is more around Epic (failure) continuing to plot Apple as a villain for their own misconducts.
Who are these people gaming on a Mac? This is actually a case of, "you're doing it wrong".
Wait a second, that doesn't make any sense? Epic is not publishing Fortnite through the Mac App Store whatsoever but through their Epic Games Store app on macOS. How are they claiming that Apple is preventing them from updating something that is not even available from the Mac App Store, but their own store that has nothing to do with Apple?
I mean, there is an argument to be made about monopoly power and platform openness. There's a balance here, and I think Apple may have stepped over it when they escalated from the mobile platform to the Mac with the way they handle developer signing (on the other hand how they handle that is a separate discussion on a balance between security an openness that Apple's navigated relatively well on MacOS - the fact is Epic could release the game unsigned with instructions on how to run it if they wanted, so you can't entirely blame apple here).
Now obviously Macs don't have monopoly status on the desktop side, and Apple doesn't alone on the mobile side, but on the mobile side Epic's dispute also concerns Google who combined with Apple represent most of the mobile market in a duopoly.
There is a real case that can be made for this needing actual legal regulation on how app stores work on mobile devices, which would, had it existed, have prevented this from ever bleeding over to the desktop (not that I trust the current administration in the US to handle such regulation well even if they were so inclined)
You're a parent, as am I. You have a rule that your 10 year old can not play fortnite. If s/he broke that rule and played fortnite anyway, would you be mad? Would you take the game away?
Because Apple also has rules that are clearly stated that everyone has to follow. Epic broke those rules.
Now, out of principal I guess, they are pulling out of the Mac completely. There are no rules in place for a company to develop for the Mac outside of the App store. They could very easily develop games that use their own marketplace / payment / whatever.
No one buys a Mac to game. Some people game on the Mac, but any serious gamer has a PC. Apple will be completely unaffected by this while Epic will see profits drop.
