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Why do so many people here support these blanket taxes Apple / Google impose on the creative development work from developers for mobile customers, yet do not support companies like Verizon/AT&T/Comcast/T-Mobile charging a tax on any internet traffic commerce occurring on their networks? Clearly the latter was fought against with "Net Neutrality", but why is that so different from people wanting "Device Neutrality" or "Mobile OS Neutrality"?
 
Why do so many people here support these blanket taxes Apple / Google impose on the creative development work from developers for mobile customers, yet do not support companies like Verizon/AT&T/Comcast/T-Mobile charging a tax on any internet traffic commerce occurring on their networks? Clearly the latter was fought against with "Net Neutrality", but why is that so different from people wanting "Device Neutrality" or "Mobile OS Neutrality"?
that is literally what goes through my mind when i see comments here supporting apple's 30%, literally apple certainly don't give enough crap about you like you do for apple. this blind loyalty exhibited here is truly laughable.
 
how is this guy a CEO? If Apple does not raise prices, developers who are paid in Euros and then must to covert to dollars (I realize that this is not ALL developers) lose money compared to the exchange rates from earlier in the summer. In other words, their Euros don't buy as many dollars as they did 6 months ago.
 
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that is literally what goes through my mind when i see comments here supporting apple's 30%, literally apple certainly don't give enough crap about you like you do for apple. this blind loyalty exhibited here is truly laughable.
1) This is a website designed for Apple enthusiasts so it isn't weird to find people here who are fans of Apple. it is weird however to find the opposite.

2) Developers are not being forced to be in the App Store, they are choosing to be there. 30% cut is the deal upfront, it isn't a hidden thing. If they don't like it, they don't join the store. Simple as that.
 
"Sweeney likened Apple to a landlord with tenants that have nowhere else to go."

Uh, it's called moving. Move to Androidville if you don't like it.
Why can't I install on my iPad/iPhone what I want?

Does Apple own my device or do I?

That's the fundamental issue. It's not about security; it's about Apple getting a piece of everyone's pie.
 
that is literally what goes through my mind when i see comments here supporting apple's 30%, literally apple certainly don't give enough crap about you like you do for apple. this blind loyalty exhibited here is truly laughable.
I agree.

The App store and no side loading claiming it's for security is nothing more than about money.

Let me install what I like. It's my device.
 
Prices are going up because of currency fluctuations. About 15 months ago, Apple had lowered app prices in South Africa, UK, and euro currency countries. It has gone both ways.
 
1) This is a website designed for Apple enthusiasts so it isn't weird to find people here who are fans of Apple. it is weird however to find the opposite.

2) Developers are not being forced to be in the App Store, they are choosing to be there. 30% cut is the deal upfront, it isn't a hidden thing. If they don't like it, they don't join the store. Simple as that.

It's not that simple. If I want to sell direct to consumers and not join the App store I have no way of doing so.

Apple claims security, but the bottom line even if customers take the risk, there is no way to side load onto an Apple product
 
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In the land of apps, tenants of the App Store don't pay "rent" in the same way. They still get the same 70% of whatever the selling price is. It's not like Apple is now saying "We are increasing our cut from 30% to 35%". No.

Sweeney can keep up his baseless arguments. Consumers and developers have choice, and they choose Apple because of the very principles of tight security and strong privacy rules that make the App Store successful. Success is a result of high standards, not lock-in.

Those qualities would be eroded with side-loading and a marketplace of unregulated app stores.
 


Apple is today beginning to implement App Store pricing increases across all territories and countries that use the euro, with the hike attributed to the euro's weakness against the U.S. dollar. Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney, whose company is currently embroiled in a legal battle with Apple, spoke up on the price update and said Apple had no justification for it.

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In a statement, Sweeney likened Apple to a landlord with tenants that have nowhere else to go as there is no alternative App Store for developers to use.Apple first announced the price increases last month, giving developers about three weeks notice. App Store pricing works on a tiered basis, and what Apple is doing is raising the cost of all preset tiers. The minimum €0.99 tier, for example, has jumped to to €1.19, while the maximum tier has increased from €999 to €1,199. Full pricing tiers are listed on Apple's website.

Along with countries that use the euro, Apple is also increasing prices in Chile, Egypt, Japan, Malaysia, Pakistan, Poland, South Korea, Sweden, and Vietnam.

Developers who sell apps in countries that use the euro can lower their App Store prices or pass the higher cost along to consumers, but as Sweeney points out, there is no alternate method for developers to provide apps to customers on iPhones and iPads without using Apple's App Store.

Epic Games and Apple have been engaged in a long legal battle over Apple's App Store policies. Sweeney and his company deliberately broke the App Store rules and then filed a lawsuit against Apple with the hope that the court would order Apple to allow third-party app stores to operate on iOS devices.

The lawsuit did not go in Epic Games' favor and Apple was not ordered to support alternate app stores. The two companies are now engaged in a lengthy appeals process, and Apple is also facing legislation in multiple countries that could ultimately require it to make some changes to allow for sideloading.

Article Link: Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney Criticizes Apple Over App Store Price Increases
I'm so tired of Tim Sweeney. iOS has 1B users and Android has 2.7B users. If Tim were a smart businessman he would simply ignore the App Store and spend 100% of his time developing for the operating system where he can be the one to spend billions of dollars to create an infrastructure to manage the purchase, distribution, update, validation, review, payment processing, etc. for his users. Why he can't recognize that Apple has actually saved him a ton of money I'll never understand.
 
1) This is a website designed for Apple enthusiasts so it isn't weird to find people here who are fans of Apple. it is weird however to find the opposite.

2) Developers are not being forced to be in the App Store, they are choosing to be there. 30% cut is the deal upfront, it isn't a hidden thing. If they don't like it, they don't join the store. Simple as that.
Bull. Developers have no choice whatsoever if they want to reach their audience. Most people have only one phone (not including work) which means that a massive part of our population is only accessable via the one store on whichever phone they have. Publishing on another platform that is not accessible on a clients phone is NOT an option.
The people defending this make me laugh at the mental gymnastics they're willing to go through to justify an obvious injustice.
Like him or hate him, Tim Sweeney and Epic have caused more headach for Apple than anything they have faced in years. Because Epic brought this issue into the open Governments around the world are now starting to address it. Tim said from the very beginning he wasn't after monitary gain, he was after industry reform. To that end he has most definitely succeeded.
 
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Because its admission that apple strong arms all developers and people CANT accept apple does that so they refuse to accept anything thats good.

The reality is a LOT of places ARE NOT raising prices to compensate for a lower Euro.

I subscribe for a service that is 20 Euro.. used to cost me 28 or more USD now its around 22 and less per USD.. No price changes at all....

**** wish I could buy fk tons of Euro on a Euro only card or something now for the future lol....
give proof to your "bold" statements. I guess gas stations in Europe don't adjust their prices based on costs? And milk and eggs cost the same as they did a year ago, right?
 
1) This is a website designed for Apple enthusiasts so it isn't weird to find people here who are fans of Apple. it is weird however to find the opposite.

2) Developers are not being forced to be in the App Store, they are choosing to be there. 30% cut is the deal upfront, it isn't a hidden thing. If they don't like it, they don't join the store. Simple as that.
1) really? i don't see that requirement when i signed up at this site years ago, is it new? 😂

2) no, they really don't have a choice if they want to tap into the mobile market, well here is a 3rd option besides the two you presented, how about gov't around the world regulate apple's 30%, if apple doesn't like it, they don't have to cater to that country, simple as that.
 
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If there were multiple app markets or installation methods on iOS, there would be a distorting effect on prices. Price increases across the board would have to be implemented with greater care. Why this is considered a bad thing is beyond me, aside from the bad faith arguments advanced by Apple’s shareholders.
If it is beyond you, it is because you are unable to comprehend the true issues involved. The issue for Apple has never been about preventing other places to purchase apps. The issue is controlling the quality, security, and privacy of the overall system. Until someone comes up with a way to do that, I'm 100% behind Apple on this. Do a quick search for malware on android. It is rampant and it is because there are bad actors (like James Woods) who are using the lack of security in the Android world to prey upon the 2.7B users to steal data and money from them. Please share with me a "bad faith argument" from an Apple shareholder. Please cite where it came from.
 
Tim Sweeney only cares about making his own App Store profitable. He cares absolutely nothing for individual users. He is using them as a means to make himself rich.
 
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Why do so many people here support these blanket taxes Apple / Google impose on the creative development work from developers for mobile customers, yet do not support companies like Verizon/AT&T/Comcast/T-Mobile charging a tax on any internet traffic commerce occurring on their networks? Clearly the latter was fought against with "Net Neutrality", but why is that so different from people wanting "Device Neutrality" or "Mobile OS Neutrality"?

They aren't taxes but commissions which is entirely common when running a store.

I have no problem if Verizon etc. wants to take 30% from YouTube for providing their content to Verizons customers.
 
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He's not completely wrong. Like with layoffs, there's something rotten about companies not being prepared for down times so not to make life harder on people or employees.

With that said, no company using the in game purchase model has a right to talk.
 
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