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Epic Games Loses Again in Battle With Apple Over App Store Rules
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Even President Biden said iOS should allow installing apps outside of an app store
Apple should be required to let iPhone users sideload apps, Biden admin says
Gov’t report recommends laws targeting mobile “gatekeepers” Apple and Google.
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Kudos to Epic for feeding the lawyers... 😂
And The Supremes will sing: "You can't hurry law, you'll just have to wait..."
I enjoy it because it is a one stop shop for:
1) App searches, no more web searches (mostly Google curated) and having to visit 10 different sites to try and compare apps across 10 different tabs all in different formats.
2) Payment, while not immune to hacks I trust Apple far more than discount, no name payment providers that cheap devs can and will employ. How many times has Apple's payment system been hacked? I'lll wait.
3) Customer service, need a refund, call Apple. Have fun when you need to call a dev.
4) App competitors, see #1, I can see all apps in one place and easily compare.
5) Mandated privacy scorecards, when apps leave the Apple App Store they will abandon the privacy reports because no one will make them do it, we will be back to trying to decipher the "legal-ese" of the EULAs
6) It is one of a kind in its approach to an ecosystem.
7) I favor it by choice, I am not REQUIRED to via legislation, I chose to be here and continue to be here.
8) One stop shop for updates, no need to have multiple store apps and multiple store credentials.
YMMV but I appreciate all of the above and if alt-stores /alt-payment systems are legislated into existence then the one stop shop ceases to exist. No one will convince me that major app developers will not vacate the Apple App Store in favor of their own, just like in the Mac world.
Apple's approach is unique and special, while it comes with some caveats it also has many advantages that many of us appreciate. For those of you that want more freedom with your devices you do have alternatives, those of us that want the current Apple ecosystem do not have another choice.
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Dude!
Let it go, let it go
Don't hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Go away and slam the door
The dude is bored, out of ideas... Wasting his life and money when he could be enjoying life in Cancun or Jamaica...
I have absolutely no idea why you'd see any connection between those things...
Does it surprise you a democratic country favors pizza, tv about housewives, and sometimes confuses taupe and beige?
Android has sideloading yet the Google Play Store still remains the one stop shop for that platform. PC has many different launchers yet Steam is the one stop shop for many.
You're gonna be fine. Your App Store isn't going away from "sideloading" and alt app stores being made available. App developers have established users on the app store so abandoning it at this point would be corporate suicide.
And even if they did leave, that's their choice, and that's Apple's fault for not making a good enough service to convince them to stay.
The already did: They acknowledged that the situation called for new laws and passed specific legislation (the Digital Markets Act) instead of relying on traditional competition law and the courts.
Game streaming apps aren't illegal.
These scorecards that aren't properly vetted or verified by Apple, you mean?
Game streaming apps aren’t illegal, but they won’t exist in the apple App Store, and people won’t use anything other than the apple App Store, so says the person above. That probably means game streaming apps still won’t exist.
Good, I hope they can start using alternate methods. Apple doesn't need more money. We need a little piggy with a bundle of cash emoji...
App developers will leave all of their customers, who want to use the App Store, because the service provided by apple isn’t good enough?!
I always feel like there’s double-speak from the ‘sideloading’ advocates. On the one hand, the apple App Store wont go anywhere, won’t change, and everyone will keep using the App Store, so there’s nothing to worry about. On the other hand, apple needs to be forced to allow ‘sideloading’ because the App Store isn’t good enough.
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You mean like we've done on computers since forever?
Hopefully not. The supreme court may over rule the decision and say having a one-stop shop is anticompetitive.
Given epic can target customers via PCs, Macs, android phones or the internet, I doubt that.
You seem to be confused. Apple doesn’t make rules, countries make laws. Apple can only follow them. Of course by following your analogy if apple doesn’t like the laws in a country it can leave and do business somewhere else. But considering the current trend in a few years there will be only a handful countries where the walled garden will be allowed.
Sweeney is a thoroughly unlikable character. The deliberately malicious way in which he broke the App Store rules discredits any argument he may have had. His hypocrisy about monopolies and digital store charges when he's just trying to do the same thing to his own customers... you can't help but root against him.
I love that Apple is using their platform to (not so) discreetly prop up PUBG, Fortnite's main rival.
I love that Apple is using their platform to (not so) discreetly prop up PUBG, Fortnite's main rival.
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Aparently we are in agree to disagree territory. Do you really believe that Steam, Amazon, Epic, etc won't jump on offering devs exclusive distribution deals if they move to their store? Epic will not suffer one bit if players need to just visit their site to download apps but their users will have, IMHO, a degraded experience. In the specific case of Epic I feel the first thing they will do is try to go head to head with Steam by leveraging their game engine business. Now instead of having 1 set of app store apps and login credentials users will need to have many, increasing their vulnerability to hacks.
Ever consider that the way we do things on "computers" isn't the best way or the only path? A form of variety and choice is the ability to choose between a walled garden and an open platform. When everything is legislated into being an open platform there is no choice. One cannot deny that Apple provides a neat and clean experience.
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Anytime, I see Epic games and lost in the same sentence it brings a smile to my face. I hope they have to pay for Apple's lawyers
Imagine if PayPal could get away with charging a 30% fee on all virtual transactions. They can't, because they're not a monopoly. Apple can, because they are. This is a big win for both developers who see fewer purchases due to the inflated prices, and users who end up paying that 30% fee, and I'm glad for the Epic Games lawsuit.
This is more of a "who cares" argument when it comes to sideloading. And I tend to agree, making it possible isn't going to change the App Store's position as the de facto app distribution center on iOS. Similar to jailbreak it would allow for some cool tweaks and other things that only niche users would care about.
You going to let me come into your garden, for free, and take what I want and provide security while I’m there? Who is going to pay for that?