Imagine if Walmart could get away with charging a 50% fee on all in person transactions. They can't, because they're not a monopoly. Oh wait they do because they're a business and they make money
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Epic Games Loses Again in Battle With Apple Over App Store Rules
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Are all of Apple employees going to start working for free?
Good thing I don't shop at Walmart because alternative marketplaces are available. You're right, I'll just find an alternative marketplace on my iPhone and...oh wait
Yeah not the same situation as a physical store or even a virtual one selling physical goods, it's like arguing that you shouldn't be able to buy an iPhone at Walmart and browse Target's website using that same iPhone because that's what Apple does to developers...
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The simple fix. Cancel support for the App Store altogether and go to a single subscription model like Apple one and Arcade. Then like streaming companies pay Artist for plays, Apple can pay developers based on active usage and maybe a bonus for downloads. These would be the only apps that benefit from Apple marketing and support. They could also charge a percentage of revenue from the App Store which will require those that opt for an outside store to report sales to Apple or be blocked from using APIs
You’re more than welcome in my garden. We’ll have a barbecue and play Smash Ultimate 😊
Wow. I think what he is saying is that he A) ceased emotional development in Jr. High and B) was wrong to assume that being the CEO of a company would get him into the cool club. For better or worse, that's not how cool works. At all.
You do know that Apple has allowed third party stores on their iPhones from the outset, don't you?
He's complaining about being bullied for actually buying Twitter Blue, to which the top reply ratioing him is bullying him for buying Twitter Blue
Which is actually a perfect example. The old Twitter verification system wasn’t perfect but what he’s advocating for is even worse, and also he’s being a jerk about it. Exactly like his spat with Apple. The Apple one may be worse because it’s so clearly self serving and he acts like he’s doing it for the good of all.
Called it right from the start. Epic picked a fight they couldn’t win and now they are paying the price for it.
Good thing there's no alternative app stores like the Google play store. No you're not forced to use the App Store. No one dragged you down by the ear to the Apple store and forced you to buy an iPhone. If that's the case you need to call the police report them because at least the USA that's illegal. I hope whatever country you live in it's also illegal.Good thing I don't shop at Walmart because alternative marketplaces are available. You're right, I'll just find an alternative marketplace on my iPhone and...oh wait
Yeah not the same situation as a physical store or even a virtual one selling physical goods, it's like arguing that you shouldn't be able to buy an iPhone at Walmart and browse Target's website using that same iPhone because that's what Apple does to developers...
Granted, the comparison isn't perfect, but neither is comparing Apple to PayPal. They are two totally different things. One is selling software while the other is transferring money so not even close to similar.
Apex Legends too. All battle royale games but Fortnite are welcome (and heavily promoted) on the app store.
Doesn’t really matter all that much anymore, the EU toggle for allowing third party apps to install without the App Store is bound to happen anyway, at least across Europe, so that’s something. If Apple is wise they will roll it out worldwide and not bow to totalitarian censorship in China like they usually do.
The comparison really isn’t perfect when you live in a country where people are being shamed for green text message bubbles.
Anddddddddddd Millennial Armchair Legal Analysts are wrong again. For people so concerned with socialism, they sure knew about Anti-Trust Law!
> According to Apple, the proposed App Store changes could "upset the careful balance between developers and customers provided by the App Store," resulting in irreparable harm to Apple and consumers.
Translation: please don't hurt our money fountain because we are already rich AF to the point where we don't know what to do with all the spare money... 🤦♂️
Translation: please don't hurt our money fountain because we are already rich AF to the point where we don't know what to do with all the spare money... 🤦♂️
The idea that the eu or any civilised country would allow that is ludicrous. If apple attempted that the eu would fine it by huge amounts, as it did to Microsoft when it used its platform to cement the internet explorer monopoly. We all know how it ended, and we can all see the what happened to internet explorer (or how popular is its successor Edge).
He's looney as hell and very jealous of Gabe Newell and Steam. Every time Valve out does Epic, I know Tim is just throwing another **** fit. Epic had the upper hand versus Valve but was too narrow minded to see the future with stores like Steam. Now with SteamDeck you can except some Chinese knockoff that will run only the Epic Store and its games but will be buggy as hell as they hack away at a Proton substitute. Try to topple Apple is their only hope of 1-up'ing Valve. They are also backed by Tencent (Twitter/Telsa investors) who are also going after Apple so they can get their WePay app in there as well.
I think perhaps if you're still in high school this is an issue, but as an adult I've never ran into this. I've heard about it, online but never seen it personally. I have lots of friends with android phones, and while it's not as convenient to text them because SMS lacks some of the features, I don't really care. If I need to send a video or photo I usually send it on Facebook messenger because privacy isn't really an issue for them anyways.
I think if people are arguing that they didn't have a choice not to buy an iPhone because they felt ashamed of a green bubble, that is a super first world problem. I was forced to go to Target because I didn't want people to see me at Walmart. Can you imagine the shame I would encounter if I was caught at Walmart shopping? My friends would never let me live that down!... I know there's someone out there that would say this, but I'm just pointing out how silly it sounds.
There’s precedent for this at least.
Apple shocks iOS developers with 27% commission on third-party payments
Netherlands policy may show how Apple will comply with new laws in rest of world.
arstechnica.com
The EU will almost certainly oppose this. Whether they ultimately prevail though. Well, won’t that be a fun fight to watch?
I always feel like there’s double-speak from the ‘sideloading’ opponents:
On the one hand, they see no problem in having no choice but to buy all of their apps through one single all-controlling entity. On the other hand, if they have to buy one particular app directly from its developer, it‘s supposedly a huge problem of „being forced“ into things.
They‘re even calling the former, being forced to buy everything from one store and company, a „choice“ that would somehow be „taken away“ from them, be denied to them, if apps can be bought somewhere else
Having to buy one app from one particular seller is a huge problem.
Having to buy all apps from one monopoly seller though is exercising real choice.
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Well, you do not have permission to come into my garden, that's private property.
You really think the retail price on apps is gonna drop? How cute 🤗. If an app is not available on the app store they are gonna spend a ton on marketing.
In the case of epic they were getting paid in exchange for a fake currency that they were the (only) bureau de change for.
Personally if I were Apple I'd give the developers the choice of App store or Sideload - but never both.