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Epic Games Loses Again in Battle With Apple Over App Store Rules
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Don't confuse democracy with capitalism.
PayPal doesn't have to deal with the costs of operating an App Store either.
Apple has a monopoly on iPhones (and by extension, iOS and the App Store). No different from Sony, Nintendo or any other game console manufacturer.
Without a developer account ? .. how'd you figure ?
I am sure Apple would be well aware of this possibility as well. 😈
Hilariously, what people want on android is iPhone. The top selling paid customisation app on the Google Play store makes their phone look like an iPhone.
I think their fees are excessive and their pervious 30% fee killed innovation. Not a lot of sustainable business models can deliver content if they lose 30% off the top. Personally, Apple products are garbage for gaming, they should be trying to pay me 30% for the downgrade in experience that I still would reject. That being said, Apple is being forced to change course because they are being greedy even if it is bad for the public/environment. The Lightening/USB-C perfectly highlights this. I am really grateful that the EU stepped in!
The guy is worth around 9.6B and whines when things don’t go his way.
Is it any surprise he’s single?
They want the freedom to pirate games. I mean run game emulators.
Was really surprised by this news. Epic picked a fight they thought was in the bag (imo) and lost every point except for one.
Well there are other platforms to distribute your wares if the dev doesn't want to pay the fee. (at least in the US). 30% seems cheap when you don't have to worry about the infrastructure and the major cost is development and the minor cost is the license.
I am not in agreement with your example of apple being greedy with Lightning. If anything, for me, I wish US iphone 15 still had a lightning connector.
😂 Bull. Tell that to the developers in the 90's - 2000's that were losing 60%+ for in store sales, while some of the worst software piracy in history was chewing away at their customer base.
Heck, I don't think I know a single person I gamed with back then that actually bought a copy of C&C, Starcraft or Half Life, 3d studio max, Autocad or Maya back then and somehow innovation trundled along just fine.
0/15/30%, cheap dev accounts and no infrastructure costs (apart from owning a Mac) has spawned innovation, reduced the cost of owning / subscribing to legit software, and de-normalized piracy a great deal.
You might be surprised to hear that most business models can sustain 30% just fine. Product placement isn't cheap and you're gonna pay it somewhere. Yo think they didnt factor that in when deciding between 99c or $1.29
The lightning USB scenario was completely different beast and was logically going to eventually happen anyhow given the iPad pro launched with it 5 years ago.
Is it safe to laugh when a billionaire speaks about wanting a meritocracy?
Just about but this thing's probably going to go on for a few more years before the dust settles.
I do have to wonder if this is a sort of "Fall On The Sword" thing for Epic in that it's been hammered in the courts thus far but may ultimately end up being successful & getting what it wants thanks to legislation/laws like those from the EU
Someone may defeat Apple eventually, leading to its downfall...... but I'm betting it's not a human, or a company run by humans.
AI. I'm betting on AI to dismantle and destroy a lot of things. Entire companies, and even nations.
The eu is not to be played with. Companies who tried got hurt, see Microsoft. Or apple, with the whole ludicrous usb c thing. Ultimately the eu will get what it wants, apple can fight like a child and lose like a child (and be ridiculed for its behaviour), or be an adult, comply with the law -and its spirit- and avoid antagonising eu citizens, who are generally less likely to have sympathy for a huge corporation trying to dodge the law.There’s precedent for this at least.
Apple shocks iOS developers with 27% commission on third-party payments
Netherlands policy may show how Apple will comply with new laws in rest of world.arstechnica.com
The EU will almost certainly oppose this. Whether they ultimately prevail though. Well, won’t that be a fun fight to watch?
Who said you will need to be a verified signed (by apple) app to be installed (or ‘sideloaded’, as people say nowadays). Apps don’t need to be checked and signed by apple to be ‘sideloaded’ on a Mac. You get a warning, but you can still install any app. If an app doesn’t come from the store it probably won’t need any signature.
“Only” the largest common market area in the world then. I suspect epic will be fairly happy about this 😉
It is already the case for many apps. Twitter for example costs less if you subscribe directly from them and 30% more if you do it through apple. An app I use (Skritter) costs £99 / year if you subscribe through apple, but you get a 50% discount if you subscribe through them bypassing apple. Some developers might chose to increase their profits, annd have more money to provide better aps and services, others will pass the discount to customers. Most probably will choose an intermediate approach and take part of the profit and pass the rest to the customer. Either way everybody wins, except for apple of course.
Killed innovation? The App Store helped usher in the modern mobile app era that we're so familiar with today. One of the first slogans was "There's an app for that"
There are millions of apps in the App Store despite the 30% or 15% fees.
You act as though there has been no innovation because Apple charges developers a platform fee.
It's quite the contrary.
