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Epic Games Offers Apple 'Peace Proposal' to Return Fortnite to the App Store Worldwide
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They made a monopoly. I can’t wait until the Apple ship fails with Tim Crook at the helm. They deserve more antitrust scrutiny than Google by a long shot. And just because you like Apple products shouldn’t mean you can’t install whatever software you want.
Totally agree. Last week someone said you can’t buy Honda wheels for your Mercedes. And I am like I can do whatever I want to my Mercedes once I own it. That’s the way Apple hardware should be. I should be able to install whatever the F I want on it.
No! It means the developer gets as much money as they should for the service or app they create. Apple does not take 30% commission if I buy something off a website on the Mac. Apple did nothing to make the game. They got paid for the hardware and the license to run the OS already. Can you imagine they were taking 30% off Netflix subscriptions until Netflix pulled out? What the heck did Apple do to deserve 30% commission on those movies? Nothing
Still waiting for Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft to get sued over their game store monopoly.
Different market of different relevance, but by all means, someone should sue away!
Game shops must feel that the bargain they get on the Dev side is fair enough I guess?
So Epic wants Apple to distribute its game for free on the App Store? It thinks it deserves to use Apple’s infrastructure and servers for free?
This guy is such a joke. And continues to be.
And what of the thousands of applications on the App Store that are free to download and without subscriptions?
The only thing Apple's infrastructure is providing for Epic is the data file to install the app along with the pictures and descriptions in the App Store.
Meanwhile, Epic is providing servers for matchmaking and match hosting which is orders of magnitude more processing power and in the long run data transfer for the game to operate.
I'd say Epic blow to Apple. It's unfair to tariff devs 12 to 27% for a link.
The difference being they're each subsets of a subset of the market. Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft(Xbox) don't have a monopoly against each other in either mindshare or dollars spent for "console interactive entertainment". That is a subset of the wider "interactive entertainment" market which includes Steam, GOG, Epic Games Store, (and more) which is a subset of the wider "entertainment software" market which is itself a subset of the "software" market.
Whereas the App Store carries every kind of app under the sun (at least those App Review deemed worthy this week)
Apple do not make it world wide, the Judge is a moron and epic loser company. #boycottepicgames #timsweeneyloser
I love how they made it sound like they pulled Fortnite in protest and are offering to return it. Casual observers will believe that.
Their "offer" is actually just a second demand. lol, great subterfuge
Their "offer" is actually just a second demand. lol, great subterfuge
Big online games existed decades before Fortnite. Every heard of the players once starving themselves to actual death playing World of Warcraft, a game you can still play?
Gee whiz, how tempting. And you know you want his business back because he started all this by deliberately rule-breaking in the showiest way possible. If you're lucky, maybe he'll even implement an "apple sux lol" DLC event to help crystallize the peace.
You all know I prefer the technological discussions over the political ones.
However, as a Fortnite player, what bothers me the most, is that no one is talking about the macOS version of the game, which was abandoned when the iOS app was banned from the iOS App Store.
Nowadays, Apple Silicon Macs, especially those equipped with an M3 and M4 chip, are more than capable to run the game at a great quality. And some of us don’t like to play in a smartphone or overheating our precious iPad Pro. The Mac is the best platform to play Fortnite, at least for me, and I have the impression that, instead of coding a universal app for Fortnite, Epic is going to focus again on the iOS version, leaving the macOS version frozen in time.
However, as a Fortnite player, what bothers me the most, is that no one is talking about the macOS version of the game, which was abandoned when the iOS app was banned from the iOS App Store.
Nowadays, Apple Silicon Macs, especially those equipped with an M3 and M4 chip, are more than capable to run the game at a great quality. And some of us don’t like to play in a smartphone or overheating our precious iPad Pro. The Mac is the best platform to play Fortnite, at least for me, and I have the impression that, instead of coding a universal app for Fortnite, Epic is going to focus again on the iOS version, leaving the macOS version frozen in time.
Apple won't be egotistical about this, they are wasting money, time and resources fighting a butt load of cases.
I think Apple will counter propose with their own terms knowing very well that epic is also losing serious money and market share by not being on the appStore. A terms of a good deal is when both sides are uncomfortable with it but want it anyway.
I think Apple will counter propose with their own terms knowing very well that epic is also losing serious money and market share by not being on the appStore. A terms of a good deal is when both sides are uncomfortable with it but want it anyway.
So now, Tencent ( Epic) is dictating how competing app stores should work....
Epic did lower prices for V-Bucks when they enabled their own in-app purchase mechanism in Fortnite, that’s what started this whole thing
The Apple board should end this saga by sacking Tim Cook and Eddy Cue and transferring power to a new generation.
I've always seen this argument from both ends. Apple created the platform, if you don't like it, don't create a product for THEIR operating system. I keep landing there.
Or...no. Sweeny wants FREE access to all Apples 2 Billion clients, goodwill, APIs and everything they have built.
It's like sticking a market stall in the entrance Mall and then demanding Free rent, Light, power and facilities.
Well only if you leave the Mercedes doors unlocked and windows open.
technically you CAN install whatever you want. But you don't owe the OS. You own the hardware and the OS is licensed to you for free. The developers sign up and agree to work within the framework of the OS and Appstore. That way things can be secure. Look at the play store.
Until they tightened up they had Hundreds of backdoor, key loggers and trojan apps.
However I do agree that you should be allowed to add another OS or Appstore if you want... but in doing so you agree lose access to to any security that apple provides and the developers of those apps are not allowed to use ANY APIs that apple created at all to access any of the secure access areas or things like passwords, faceID etc.
Apple isn’t killing the goose that lays the golden egg. I thought most Macrumors posters would recognize that.