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Apple is not stopping any scam apps. Ask Kosta Elftheriou.
Developer exposes another multimillion dollar scam app on the App Store - 9to5Mac
While Apple claims the App Store has "the apps you love" in a place "you can trust," a developer has shown time and time again that this is not true.
9to5mac.com
Apple’s tightly controlled App Store is teeming with scams
Apple claims its App Store is carefully curated so that only the best apps get through. The truth is, the App Store is littered with scams and "fleeceware," which uses fake user ratings to trick customers into paying for something they don't want.
www.washingtonpost.com
Apple is the biggest scamster: https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...-developers-to-2017-to-push-app-subscriptions
Yes. It's not an all or nothing proposition. Because there are some bad "apples" (pun intended) in the bunch, doesn't mean anything. Sideloading opens up an entire vector that is not under Apples control. So what is your point, Apple isn't perfect?Apple is not stopping any scam apps. Ask Kosta Elftheriou.
Developer exposes another multimillion dollar scam app on the App Store - 9to5Mac
While Apple claims the App Store has "the apps you love" in a place "you can trust," a developer has shown time and time again that this is not true.
Apple’s tightly controlled App Store is teeming with scams
Apple claims its App Store is carefully curated so that only the best apps get through. The truth is, the App Store is littered with scams and "fleeceware," which uses fake user ratings to trick customers into paying for something they don't want.
Apple is the biggest scamster: https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...-developers-to-2017-to-push-app-subscriptions
And let's not forget that for every one bad app in the App Store... there may be hundreds more that didn't get into the App Store because Apple blocked it.
You're right... nobody will be checking every website that is offering scammy sideloaded apps. I fear it will be open-season.
Let's hope Apple's sandboxing or *cough* GateKeeper is up to snuff!
It did well even in 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2021. iPhone is in the 7th position.
Well, if you are being pedantic, Samsung also makes money when Apple makes a sale. Lol!
If Apple cannot prevent any scam apps, and if Apple actually promotes scam apps, it has no moral right to collect its cut from developers. What is the need for the existence of the Appstore? Definitely not to help discoverability because I see that the Appstore does not help in app discoverability at all.
Developers complain that Apple promotes scam apps on the App Store
Apple removed the story promoting the apps after developers pointed it out.
arstechnica.com
Yeah, according to the ACSI. I'd dig up some JD Power Customer Satisfaction Surveys, but honestly it's not worth the effort -- as this is strictly a sidebar conversation.It did well even in 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2021. iPhone is in the 7th position.
Well, if you are being pedantic, Samsung also makes money when Apple makes a sale. Lol!
If you are dependent on Appstore to vet the apps and if Appstore actually promotes scam apps, then how is it even helping?And let's not forget that for every one bad app in the App Store... there may be hundreds more that didn't get into the App Store because Apple blocked it.
You're right... nobody will be checking every website that is offering scammy sideloaded apps. I fear it will be open-season.
Let's hope Apple's sandboxing or *cough* GateKeeper is up to snuff!
I disagree. A bad app has nothing to do with the way the app store functions. Apple is under every right to be compensated according to the TOS of the app store. You are continuing to make apple's case about privacy and security.If Apple cannot prevent any scam apps, and if Apple actually promotes scam apps, it has no moral right to collect its cut from developers. What is the need for the existence of the Appstore? Definitely not to help discoverability because I see that the Appstore does not help in app discoverability at all.
Developers complain that Apple promotes scam apps on the App Store
Apple removed the story promoting the apps after developers pointed it out.
It did well even in 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2021. iPhone is in the 7th position.
Well, if you are being pedantic, Samsung also makes money when Apple makes a sale. Lol!
Look at that Apple/Samsung duopoly!
We need more competition!
Come on HTC and Motorola... you're our only hope!
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Again... it's not an all-or-nothing situation.
Do bad apps get onto the App Store? (and Google Play?)
Yes.
But that doesn't mean all vetting should stop completely.
And as I said... there are hundreds of apps every week that are blocked from even getting on the App Store.
So I still consider that a huge benefit.
You wouldn't want just anyone to be able to upload any ol' app unchecked, do you?
Exactly. Enter the EU with DMA allowing alternate app stores so that developers can have an option to sign better TOS with other app stores? I mean, if an appstore has to resort to TOS to collect money rather than through performance, it means it is taking advantage of its monopoly. Break it, and you will force it to compete on performance and not hide behind the TOS.
No. A developer can elect to go somewhere else. Nobody is holding a gun to anybody's head. Apple is charging for it's services, which it is entitled to do. It's apples software after all. You have, imo, an incomplete definition of what an illegal monopoly means. Apple is a legal monopoly as Honda is a legal monopoly as.....
That's the reason for this pending legistlation. What Apple does is clearly legal and successful.
The same option exists for Apple too, if you think about it. Nobody is holding a gun to Apple's head to sell in countries that are bringing in these regulations to curb Apple's anticompetitive behavior. They can always pull out of these countries (UK, the EU, USA, South Korea, Japan, India, Australia, and a few more, I think).
Nobody cares if Apple is a monopoly as long as it does not abuse its monopoly position, which it is. Hence the slew of regulations that will cut down Apple to its size.
I agree. I think Apple should close up shop in those countries. I'm hoping Apple is doing the match on a paper napkin to assess it's profitability if these regulations go into effect. These regulations are needed because Apple is not found to have anticompetitive behavior in most courts of law. Frankly the worst of the bunch is the EU and Apple should start from there. Let the people speak their minds.
Apple has not abused it's monopoly position in an overall sense.
If it pulls out, there will be zero revenue, and zero profits. If it stays for the long haul, it may have negative profits in the short term but it will still have significant revenue. It might even figure out new ways to make money to cover all the losses. It is also possible that these changes will make Apple devices more attractive to the millions of consumers who buy premium Android phones because they do not like the walled garden approach of Apple. As long as they stay in the game, anything is possible. It might even gain a huge market share from Android. If it pulls out, it is curtains for Apple in those countries.
They want a piece of the pie for free while Apple is responsible for the whole damn pie to begin with.
If enough companies pull out, they're screwed. No Macs, no PCs, no iPhones, and Androids. Let them suffer for a bit while their citizens are up their ass about having no good tech and see how quickly they drop this BS.
It was a good movie by Epic games.
Why Apple Didn’t Lose in the Epic Games Ruling (Published 2021)
A judge’s split decision in the lawsuit mostly went in favor of Big Tech.
Could turn out to be a bad move though.It was a good movie by Epic games.
Why Apple Didn’t Lose in the Epic Games Ruling (Published 2021)
A judge’s split decision in the lawsuit mostly went in favor of Big Tech.www.nytimes.com
Right, it depends on the math and the amount of money lost in brand value and revenue due to over-burdened regulations. The potential bad press from scamware, malware, porn, gambling and who knows what might give apple a black eye and cause a spiral downward. If Apple pulls out, they may be saving their corporate backsides.
Not at all, the DMA has its foundation on existing cases and laws already on the books, apple is under investigation, they haven’t been cleared. Google, Microsoft, Amazon etc have been under investigation and lost billions as they have been found guilty after taking years.
These cases are the foundational backbone. But with a clear case to look at and codifying these effect and results without the need to reinvent the wheel every time.
I think American companies have an unhealthy fear of porn. Let loose as the Europeans and others.
In other words, apple has been operating legally in most of the world. But governments want this legal operation at a point in time in the future to be illegal. The very definition of governmental overreach and downfall of tech in the EU.
It’s still Apples ecosystem and they have worked hard to curate a certain brand value and brand image. This **** legislation will will undermine both.