I hope you'll never have "to accept or die" in your life; for example, tomorrow your boss could decide that safety protections in your office will be removed. You aren't forced to work here, you can go to work somewhere else... and even in the other company in your city they decided to apply for the same rules... have fun...
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well new platforms have emerged in Russia and China.
perhaps go live there is new platforms is what you want...
These two platforms are here because the market is open.
Imagine tomorrow the US carrier are tired of a$$le and they decide that a$$le device cannot use anymore their mobile networks.
You can start moving in another country outside US so you can continue to use your phone... do you agree?
I’m not clear on what the message is above. As a dev who has this idea, should have a business plan and figure things out. Stop blaming Apple for the lack of competition.
But that doesn’t explain why governments are regulating Apple like with sideloading and alternative app stores
If there is no issue with how Apple makes iOS
… towards the bottom and that would then balance out the camera bump. I like it. 😊
How is using Google and Apple platforms competing with Google and Apple?? That called Customer - Supplier relationship not competitive. A competitor to Google and Apple would build their own platform. Palm, Symbian, Microsoft and BeOS tried and failed not because Google and Apple squeezed them out but because they weren’t good enough to gain traction and survive in the market. Nothing more.
And by the way, there are alternatives today for those who truly want an alternative to Google and Apple. These include the Sony Xperia 10 III, 10 IV, 10 V, 10 II, and Xperia X with Sailfish OS, and Linux-based Plasma Mobile/postmarketOS devices like the PinePhone and Librem 5. Buying one of these is a better way of supporting development of competition than aiding and abetting arsonists like Epic who are bent on setting fire to businesses that took the risk of building something worthy of existing and succeeding.
Just because I don’t agree with every decision a company makes doesn’t mean I can’t purchase an item from them wbeasley
Just like epic being back on the USA iOS app store
No buddy it’s because developers wouldn’t write apps for them so that is why they failed because of how the mobile market is setup in the west
Regarding these other devices
Unfortunately buddy you can’t download the apps you need hence the issue
Anyone can bring a device out but if it’s not supported with apps then it won’t survive in the west because of how the market is setup
back to the passive aggressive name use LOL
surely even you realise replying threads the persons comments you are replying to
your answer is the same old answer we've been hearing for more than year of EU attacks.
nothing in life matches your exact needs. deal with it.
and if a company or product annoys you enough, don't buy it.
endlessly whining about something so basic to the platform wont result in changes.
MOST PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT ALT STORES OR PAYMENTS.
The EU forced opening to alt stores has not been a huge success.
Even Android alt stores arent that popular.
There's enough dodgy junk on PlayStore that needs you to be careful with. Outside it's worse.
Even on this forum there are two or three supporters.
There are lots of people here who write code. They aren't complaining.
Many have stated in the past that 30% or 15% is very reasonable cost of doing business.
Years ago I co-ran an import business.
We bought product for $100, distributed it for $200 and retailed it at $300.
Ran very successfully for over 7 years. New owners still running it that way for a further 18 years.
Everyone along the distribution channel makes enough to be profitable and worthwhile.
Each adds value to the end customer by having stock on hand and offereing educationa and advice and training.
This is how business works.
Apple choose their margins. And like all business you weigh up perceived value and watch if customers buy at the price points you set. Occasional discounts can show whether you got the model right or not.
Samsung regularly discount their phones and TVs and monitors a few months after release.
I know I can wait and pick up a better value item during certain months. It's not random.
you have answered your own question.
there will never be third platform.
there are now too many apps for the two platforms (usually on both) that it would take too much effort and cost to release the app on another platform.
when VHS and Beta were battling it out, no third alternative was going to come along and take them on.
DVDs were the same... HDCD didnt stand a chance.
it took streaming services to offer online instant access to huge libraries of content to almost kill off physical media.
the only way mobile platforms will change is a similarly different service.
Sorry I don’t get this. I live in the west and I don’t see any mechanism that allows Apple and Google stop a group of product visionaries, engineers and investors from deciding to make an alternative to iOS and Android.
A true alternative ecosystem includes device design and production, developer tools and support as well as distribution, billing and customer support. This is easy to casually talk about but extremely difficult to achieve.
Every piece of that alternative ecosystem is the responsibility of the aspiring competitor and fully under their control. Neither Google nor Apple is standing in their way. The only barrier is vision, talent, capital and willingness to take the risk and do the hard work to make their vision a reality.
But at least in EU, replace batteries will be easier... sorry a$$le if you get less $$...
The history of “off the store” software distribution on the Mac does not support the “will result in many falling for Spoofs”. Would 3rd party iOS app stores increase the falling for spoof potential simply because there more iOS than Mac users? Or are there not many non-technical Mac users?
In principle, I prefer the right to fall for spoof, i.e the privilege to buy software inside and outside the Apple app stores, i.e. the freedom of choice I have had for my Macs.
I’m just politeback to the passive aggressive name use LOL
surely even you realise replying threads the persons comments you are replying to
your answer is the same old answer we've been hearing for more than year of EU attacks.
nothing in life matches your exact needs. deal with it.
and if a company or product annoys you enough, don't buy it.
endlessly whining about something so basic to the platform wont result in changes.
MOST PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT ALT STORES OR PAYMENTS.
The EU forced opening to alt stores has not been a huge success.
Even Android alt stores arent that popular.
There's enough dodgy junk on PlayStore that needs you to be careful with. Outside it's worse.
Even on this forum there are two or three supporters.
There are lots of people here who write code. They aren't complaining.
Many have stated in the past that 30% or 15% is very reasonable cost of doing business.
Years ago I co-ran an import business.
We bought product for $100, distributed it for $200 and retailed it at $300.
Ran very successfully for over 7 years. New owners still running it that way for a further 18 years.
Everyone along the distribution channel makes enough to be profitable and worthwhile.
Each adds value to the end customer by having stock on hand and offereing educationa and advice and training.
This is how business works.
Apple choose their margins. And like all business you weigh up perceived value and watch if customers buy at the price points you set. Occasional discounts can show whether you got the model right or not.
Samsung regularly discount their phones and TVs and monitors a few months after release.
I know I can wait and pick up a better value item during certain months. It's not random.
My language is the same old answer as the
EU attacks
Did the EU government attack you?
Well that’s not particularly true is it
Coming on MR and making complaints won’t make a difference
However if a big enough developer highlights certain issues then a government will look into & then potential changes will occur on said platform
Unlike a small developer who hasn’t got the muscle to challenge certain conditions
I’m not interested if it costs 450 to make an iPhone and then Apple sell’s it for 999
Couldn’t care less if I like a product I will purchase it
There was a fair bit of keeping american tech in its place with the DMA. Developer complaints normally would be investigated and maybe wind up with a fine, if guilty. A laundry list of laws designed to give away intellectual property like Robin Hood is not a usual response. The entire due process thing was bypassed.
For better or worse it’s different in the US.
If that is the case then how can any new company compete with android when google gives it away for free to every OEM for a start
So even if you somehow managed to convince an OEM to use your OS
Then you wouldn’t get apps for it because it would not be worth developers time & money to write apps for it
android has a customer base of over 3.5 billion users So it’s pretty pointless
The EU did attack all iOS users worldwide.
They forced code changes that made all of us more vulnerable with their demands.
They also decided to claim a fine of WORLDWIDE income.
No government body should be able to impose fines for areas outside their territory.
I'm sorry you are so offended that a product you buy that you like then hate so much to constantly complain.
I think you bought the wrong product. Knowingly.
There are quite a few Android devices now that are equally nicely designed and high end materials and specs.
Some argue higher quality and better value.
So surely one of those meet your perceived needs better.
more non technical people own and use phones than computers these days. Easily outweighs them.
look at yearly sales figures.
computers are for serious work. and require more knowledge.
i've watched a number of older friends struggle with computers over the years and now they've transitioned to their phones for their needs.
that's why phones need to be consumer friendly and protect users from poor choices.
everyone who wants freedom, it's really not hard to carry a lightweight laptop around these days.
you get a device with more screen real estate, better input options and the ability to install and run pretty much anything you want.
as i said, the phone OS wars are over. Accept it. move on.
Microsoft with all its resources couldnt compete. Hence we ended up with two competing yet similar platforms with the same apps pretty much on both. one having the freedom to install anything if you really want.
show me a competing idea and implementation plan that will change that.
there isnt one.
screenless AI devices didnt take off like Rabbit. For a good reason. they offered a new way of interacting that fell well short of the flexibility users get now. Voice interaction alone isnt great for email or messaging or web browsing. you need a screen. you need touch. five senses and they expected you to fall back to one (mostly)? it was clear when announced this was a tech fail coming.
VisionOS is a possible way forward.
but do most people really want to pay that much and wear an intrusive device with short battery life?
it still doesnt beat the current methods.
folding phones are still niche. they cost too much. i've never seen one being used on the streets. i'm sure there are influencers carrying them in their handbags maybe. perhaps i need to go to more hip places LOL.
In addition to what @wbeasley said, there is a massive difference in scale that makes iOS a much more attractive target for scammers.
There are over 2 billion active iOS devices. Around 150 million active MacOS devices. That makes iOS a significantly more attractive target.
If that is important to you then you have an option that doesn’t involve forcing a company to do things against their wishes, corporate brand promises, and the best interests of their customers.
Honestly, I’d probably take advantage of a “power user mode” that allowed side loading if offered. But I don’t think it’s in the interest of the vast majority of Apple’s customers to have that option - far more people would be scammed and would blame Apple for it. So if Apple doesn’t want to they shouldn’t have to.
They didn't squeeze any handset maker or other mobile OS maker out of the market. You had Blackberry, HP/Palm, Microsoft CE then Metro, and whatever came out of Europe (Symbian I think). Plus Google Android, which is forked in Asia between Samsung and whatever China is doing. It all came back down to earth by people picking Apple and whatever handsets (Motorola, HTC, LG, Sony, etc) and Android.
Not either of those two companies faults. If anyone was to take a guess early on they would have picked Blackberry and Microsoft.
Again, not either of their faults. It just worked out that way.
This is because there are few companies that make this product "now". And there is almost never going to be a perfect company or product. You and everyone else will not like everything anyone makes. But, when those situations pop up in life. We are all free to do it ourselves and make the more perfect product.
They didn't make it impossible. They did such a good job that it is certainly hard. But, anyone could take a linux distro and give it a go. Maybe pick up PalmOS from HP and redo it. In any event, that's not either of their faults. It's hard, but that's part of creating a successful business. And if all we want to do is break apart successful business. Then what is the motivation for the next start up to try and enter a market or create something new? When the end result could be that it gets taken away from you or broken up to not be what was intended. Because it's too successful? Not fair.
There is nothing wrong with what the EU government has done
Or what courts are legislating
Or epic being potentially back on the USA iOS App Store.
I just don’t take it personally
Why would I be offended by a product I buy
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