I some cases, devs could be accused of a crime depending on what the rule was. In this case a dev was kicked off the App Store. there is no one size fits all.
There is still more than two parties.
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There is an appeal in place that could go a few different ways. One way is that the App Store could be shut down if Apple prevails.
You can’t use harmony os in most countries that is the point.
Yes epic was kicked off the App Store but what are the legal ramifications that they are facing?
There is Linux and some others. Saying there are two choice is factually incorrect.
Why would the App Store be shutdown if it offers excellent value and quality
Would it not be able to compete against others
The same way you can play your Nintendo switch game on your pc.
That’s a disingenuous question. But the real answer is every financial service has a website.
Not every app in the world is cross compatible with every platform.
It's not up to the government to provide additional options. As they "can't" do it that directly.
At best, they can incentivize business through tax breaks, and any other government funded (research and development) technologies. To create a new business with. Or do what China does and subsidize a local business so they don't fail. Or levy a tariff on foreign business that compete with your local products. Nor do they limit themselves in just out right copyright infringement, which they certainly shouldn't do.
The EU, and much of Asia and the rest of the world. DON'T compete with high tech business in the US. They, for many of different reasons, have either chosen not to. Simply can't do to the costs of entry. Lack the talent pool to begin with, or lack the investment funds to get it off the ground. Or many combinations of them all. Where they take part in those areas are where they can offer a component or particular skill set that other countries can't do. Or can't do easily. As they lack the materials, or skilled labor, etc.
Again, what you want is for a 3rd or 4th company or even a non-profit/open source to create another option. They are free to try.
Then if you can’t gets apps then it then most people won’t buy them
That’s is why in everywhere apart from china it’s a two party system in regards to mobile.
And that is having a knock on affect
If a Chinese company couldn’t compete
Then why do they have 1 billion users?
You can’t buy huawei in the west and that’s not because it’s a bad product
Because if you actually look at it there products go toe to toe with major tech companies
If as you claim then why is it in one country
There is 3 mobile OS’s and Apple are in 3rd place there.
Yet in everywhere else you only have two choices now why is it different in one country compared with the rest of the world
Why is there competition there but not anywhere else.
That’s a logical fallacy, there are more than two platforms, not to mention every android version is forked.
Except it really isn’t. There are popular platforms and there are platforms that aren’t as popular, but there are more than two.
and the reason why these platforms are not as popular is because you can’t get apps on it to help you in today’s working society.
Your premise and conclusion are flawed. These platforms exist because they satisfy some requirement. Linux isn’t as popular as windows because it doesn’t have any apps?
No that’s not what I said
In mobile you only have two options available in the west and as a consequence of that
It is having a knock on affect regarding mobile
Now it’s very odd that in china you have
3 mobile OS’s that compete
And everywhere else there is only two
What makes china different to the rest of the world
Why is there competition in china but nowhere else.
Just want to correct the misinformation. There are multiple platforms available, but two are the most popular. With one option licensed an customized on a vendor by vendor basis.
Also logic that two is not competition but three is doesn’t track. Maybe the line in the sand is 5. 5 is a health competitive market?
Because China is actively subsidizing its home-grown providers. I really, really wish the EU would do the same.
China:
- Provides direct fundings developing Chinese mobile OSes (including funding open-source initiatives like OpenHarmony)
- China gives preferential treatment in state contracts to domestic companies, subsidies and loans from state-affiliated banks with great rates
- State Investment funds invest in companies making OSes
- Chinese agencies are required to use domestic providers; party officials are highly encouraged to use domestic providers
- China gives favorable tax rates, R&D expense deductions, and tax rebates to companies in strategic tech areas, including Mobile OS development
- China places restrictions on foreign software
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That sounds like an issue to take up with the developers themselves, not Apple or Google or random Macrumours commenters.
Yet Apple can compete there?
And yet it’s the only place in the world with
3 mobile operating systems with big user base
Unlike in the west where you Have 2 big companies iOS & Android
And smaller ones that you can’t get decent apps for
Yet for a company to compete with iOS or Android what your more or less saying is they need government help to achieve that.
Competition is sponsored at the highest levels; go figure.
The EU should take some notes here.
In the EU yes, the US no.
Didn’t know he was a known liar. If Apple decline the app it would impact them negatively asthe act must be based on a rule in the store and not because they feel like it.
Oh do we? Seems more as a feeling than a real thing. Apple is equally staffed with people willing to lie in public, you’d fill need to prove that claim. Apple infrastructure doesn’t need to be replaced.
It can be understood that it was always legal to do it, it just hadn’t been tested in court to show the contract clause/ rule was illegal
Breaking the AppStore rules isn’t related to Tim Sweeney being a lier, and the ends justifying the means aren’t relevant in this.
Apple has their obligation to do a proper vetting of the app, and they failed to do a good control of the app.
Nowhere doesn’t suggest they won’t ALSO offer IAP 😉. Perhaps they will use ApplePay.nowhere have i seen anything to suggest that apps with links to outside payment will ALSO offer IAP via Apple.
they are trying to avoid paying Apple anything.
imagine if noone got suckered byt the outside payment option and everyone went with the convenient trusted Apple payment option?
apps that Apple current makes nothing from suddenly start generating income? LOL
If Apple can convince Sony to include ApplePay in the PlayStation store then they can probably convince developers to use it instead of links outside
Apple Pay support now available on PlayStation 5 - 9to5Mac
PlayStation 5 users now have an additional way to complete purchases of games and other content on their consoles: Apple...
9to5mac.com
So I believe in apples persuasion ability.
iOS isn’t open source and copyrighted. The risk is zero. Governments wants backdoors in to iOS because spying and opening up of criminals phones… like they want for everything.
Well in this regard the alternatives we have are two. HyperOS and HarmonyOS
And the made in China mandate will push away android as the Chinese phone brands take up more market shares.
In EU it just now has become possible for the manufacturers to have no Google services while still supporting android Apk’s.
And we all know how Chrome started as a Safari WebKit fork and developed to its own thing.
Chinese phones - no more Google Android by 2025
Phones made and sold in China will have to stop using Google Android by 2025. Models for the international market may use Google Android.
www.gadgetguy.com.au
I have to agree on this. I wish EU did do something similar, but legally can’t. Hence why EU responded negatively towards the US chips act. EU doesn’t allow such blatant state aid as it’s anti-competitive (ironic I know) and the member states haven’t allowed EU to provide such aid because it’s potentially anti competitive towards their own interests( also ironic)
And this leads to other companies competing with unfair advantages. Same how the German state did subsidize solar panel manufacturing to kick start it, but when they removed it they couldn’t compete with China who provided generous incentives to manufactures to move to China.
The only reason they have a third Os is because Huawei was banned from using Android. And the U.S. government banned Google was banned from providing it to them.
The first device to feature HarmonyOS NEXT and doesn’t contain any Android Open Source Project (AOSP) code at sale was the Huawei Mate 70, which went on sale in China in November 2024
On October 22, 2024, Huawei announced at its HarmonyOS NEXT 5 event that the HarmonyOS platform has active 1 billionusers
It doesn’t matter if they couldn’t use google as they where already in the process of launching their own OS
What it essentially done was not allow them to compete in the west
It's 0% in PC/Mac software sales. As Mobile starts replacing desktop sales, I think that's where developers see it as a Apple having too much control.
That’s the point because of how the mobile market is setup in the west then you ultimately have two choices unless you live in china
That is why APPLE are getting regulated because there is no competition so that is why all these regulations are happening to iOS that’s the point
And it will continue to happen