Fortnight. IS. NOT. A. GAME. It's a tool designed to separate people from their money. It's not entertainment. It's not art. It doesn't deserve protection.
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Epic Games vs. Apple: Timeline of Events Surrounding Fortnite's Removal From App Store
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Fortnight. IS. NOT. A. GAME. It's a tool designed to separate people from their money. It's not entertainment. It's not art. It doesn't deserve protection.
It’s very clear that you have an agenda and I’m not going to feed you any further... you’re wrong and it’s just as simple as that.
He’s only here to defend Apple, it’s cute how he focuses on this one game when there are countless others that do the same exact thing. He’s just pissed because Apple is being challenged, and for good reason.
No. All developers that steal should be removed. I have mentioned Things and DayOne before. They should all be gone.
APPLE STUMBLED INTO A WAR WITH THE GAMING INDUSTRY, AND THE FUTURE OF IOS IS AT STAKE - The Verge
Another interesting article
Hmm here's a example where Apple is against cloud gaining but is OK with downloaded games, isn't that terribly old fashion?
Another interesting article
Hmm here's a example where Apple is against cloud gaining but is OK with downloaded games, isn't that terribly old fashion?
Out of interest why is it too much? How much of a cut do physical brick and mortar stores take?
I have my Kayo sports subscription through Apple and it makes me smile knowing Rupert Murdoch is losing 30% of every sale. I only wish it was 100%.
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Of interest - whose the real victims in all of this?
social lifeline for young gamers - FoxBusinessBeat
So there you go big old Apple and Google are hurting kids during the pandemic, way to go!
social lifeline for young gamers - FoxBusinessBeat
So there you go big old Apple and Google are hurting kids during the pandemic, way to go!
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And I wonder which platform Fortnite made the most money from......
For smaller developers and studios, it’s a bargain. Apple does most of the heavy lifting a small company can never do even by getting in debt. Smaller player would never have the talents/time/resources to develop those APIs/tools/testing/distribution. For bigger and more powerful companies like Spotify and Epic Games, it is a loss. The distributive nature of software amplifies the economies of scale and scope. The bigger it is, the smaller a percentage some fixed costs become.
If Apple charge a few based on service, an 800% charge could be on smaller developers and a 0.1% on bigger ones. It would be encouraging winners to take all and keep it. Give it a few years, smaller developers will die out. It will look like other physical companies at the age of super-brands – only few exist.
If Apple charge at a fixed percentage, they are making sure that niche actors can survive and thrive – the precondition for innovation. When there’s innovation, the ecosystem benefit. Consumers benefit. Developers benefit. A circular causality. Apple will make some powerful enemies. In a simpler narrative, Apple is robbing the super giants to incentivise smaller fishes, like a functioning government (forget polarised politics).
Running a multi-sided platform is about platform governance: incentivising and charging the right people correctly, and incentivise innovations. In the process of evolution, there is no protagonists and villains. They simply decisions on the trade-offs they make.
If Apple charge a few based on service, an 800% charge could be on smaller developers and a 0.1% on bigger ones. It would be encouraging winners to take all and keep it. Give it a few years, smaller developers will die out. It will look like other physical companies at the age of super-brands – only few exist.
If Apple charge at a fixed percentage, they are making sure that niche actors can survive and thrive – the precondition for innovation. When there’s innovation, the ecosystem benefit. Consumers benefit. Developers benefit. A circular causality. Apple will make some powerful enemies. In a simpler narrative, Apple is robbing the super giants to incentivise smaller fishes, like a functioning government (forget polarised politics).
Running a multi-sided platform is about platform governance: incentivising and charging the right people correctly, and incentivise innovations. In the process of evolution, there is no protagonists and villains. They simply decisions on the trade-offs they make.
So you think the timing of their response was due to collusion? The other interpretation is that their timing was in response to EPIC's action, and there is no collusion whatsoever. Sorry to spoil your marvellous conspiracy theory!
Steam charges 30% too - amazing, have we discovered a much bigger conspiracy? Or is there possibly some other explanation. As a general comment, we note that China operates millions of sockpuppets. They are out in force on message boards when anything China is interested in comes up.
I don't think they are adults. No thinking creature would waste time and money on this ****.
dont you mean what makes the iPhone great are the apps? The AppStore is just the middle man...
I thing this is the hart of the story, big business trying to remove the pesky smal innovative developers that keep changing the game and this is not how monopoly looks like, we all know Apple has bin forced to allow music and other core services to be replaced by 3part, this has bin a long time coming and this was without a doubt anticompetitive behaviour. But being forced to pay a premium to use a platform/store is not, as long as all get access to the same, and in fact is the very opposite of anticompetitive, inviting others to sell stuff on your store with out you taking a cut is just not a sustainable business and Epic is not about leting other artist sell there skins in their online games, at least not with out there cut.
30% is excessive for subscriptions. For initial app purchases it may be reasonable, but Apple is being greedy (surprise surprise, it’s in their DNA) by charging that much for regular subscriptions.
I found out I can buy my Tidal subscription through their website and use it in the app, so I’d rather do that than give Apple money that they don’t deserve. I wonder why Tidal can do this but Epic Fortnight can’t.
If anyone thinks Apple is this pillar of righteousness and moral superiority, I have for you two words: consumable IAPs; aka loot boxes; aka gambling; aka pay-to-win etc, etc. Apple also pushes games that employ these nefarious tactics heavily. They don’t care if kids or vulnerable people get addicted and spend thousands of dollars that they don’t have on credit cards, so long as they get their 30% cut. If you think this doesn’t happen, think again!
I don’t even mind necessarily that Apple is a ruthless corporation. That is after all what corporations do (and our governments let them do) and are expected to do by their shareholders. What bothers me is that Apple still tries to portray itself as this underdog figure and bastion of moral superiority that’s on our side, when that very clearly isn’t the case; and hasn’t been for a long time. They also never admit to any wrongdoing even when they get fined or lose court battles (which they very frequently do). It was also a lie apparently when they said they treat every developer equally.
Apple is playing with fire here. They risk undermining their entire App Store model. Fortnight was one of the games that was frequently touted and shown off on the iPad as a demonstration of its capabilities as well.
I found out I can buy my Tidal subscription through their website and use it in the app, so I’d rather do that than give Apple money that they don’t deserve. I wonder why Tidal can do this but Epic Fortnight can’t.
If anyone thinks Apple is this pillar of righteousness and moral superiority, I have for you two words: consumable IAPs; aka loot boxes; aka gambling; aka pay-to-win etc, etc. Apple also pushes games that employ these nefarious tactics heavily. They don’t care if kids or vulnerable people get addicted and spend thousands of dollars that they don’t have on credit cards, so long as they get their 30% cut. If you think this doesn’t happen, think again!
I don’t even mind necessarily that Apple is a ruthless corporation. That is after all what corporations do (and our governments let them do) and are expected to do by their shareholders. What bothers me is that Apple still tries to portray itself as this underdog figure and bastion of moral superiority that’s on our side, when that very clearly isn’t the case; and hasn’t been for a long time. They also never admit to any wrongdoing even when they get fined or lose court battles (which they very frequently do). It was also a lie apparently when they said they treat every developer equally.
Apple is playing with fire here. They risk undermining their entire App Store model. Fortnight was one of the games that was frequently touted and shown off on the iPad as a demonstration of its capabilities as well.
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Knock the crap off, because YOU don't play it doesn't mean other adults don't 🙄
Don't feed it, seriously, let him have his incorrect opinions.
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Exactly right, without apps the app store would be NOTHING....
Yes, they are, you can shout it as long and as loud as you want, doesn't change the fact that you're opinion is incorrect.