They did comply that doesn’t mean they can’t appeal. Two different things.
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Epic Resubmits Fortnite to U.S. App Store After Not Hearing From Apple for 120+ Hours
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Epic is like that annoying ex who can’t take a hint that the person they’re trying to reach isn’t interest in them.
how is Apple not complying with the latest ruling? As a matter of fact, they are, there have been stories on MR about that.
Nowhere did the ruling say that apple has to allow Epic/Fortnite onto the App Store, the court actually said the opposite 5 years ago.
not true, the majority of Apple users don't care about this Epic stuff, just being discussed endlessly here on MR and some other tech social places.
It will...
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Does Epic need Apple to review a new binary every Friday? And Epic think Apple should just do this for free?
In fact, most Apple users actually like the restrictions, and are willing to pay more for them. In other words: they're a feature for most consumers!
I know that's shocking for many on here, but it's the truth. Here is a summary of the comments on a Washington Post article about apps now being able to offer links.
Here's my take: Sweeney's affectations to surprise notwithstanding, this should really be a surprise to precisely nobody. Apple stands to gain next to nothing from the new business model that Epic is attempting to engineer through "lawfare"; therefore, unless a US court plainly directs Apple to usher Fortnite back into the US App Store, Apple will do no such thing.
My reasoning: The screenshots indicating that Epic (ahem) "plans" to display a button leading to their own payment solution alongside a button leading to Apple's payment solution must be deemed as optimistically misleading at best and an outright lie at worst. Recent history has shown us that Epic is perfectly happy to break contracts to which they had previously "agreed" -- and which made them crap-tons of money, by-the-way -- therefore, nothing that Epic claims, in writing, verbally, pictorially or otherwise, can be considered trustworthy. Further, recognizing that Epic's long game here is to maximize profits and to convince as many of their players as possible to opt for Epic's payment solution... it should be pretty obvious that Apple's payment solution is going to entirely disappear from that screen just as soon as Epic feels they can get away with it.
It won't happen immediately, and it probably won't even happen all at once. Consider what has already happened: The original Epic payment system implementation -- the unauthorized one that started this entire debacle -- offered an outright discount for choosing to use their payment system over Apple's. The proposed payment buttons in the screenshot no longer offer that discount; rather, they offer non-monetary "Epic Rewards" instead, which can only be used in the Epic Store. Further, the current deal is 20% -- but the fine print states that this is a temporary promotion which drops back down to 5% in August.
Are you seeing a trend here? This is exactly the same as Darth Vader twisting Lando around his finger, as he quips, "I am altering the deal... pray I don't alter it any further." So yeah... anyone with even an ounce of sense knows not to trust Vader to stick to the deal.
Likewise for Tim Sweeney and Epic.
While I certainly don't disagree that there will be a good chunk of users who will have bought an Apple device for exactly the reasons you're describing, I'd be careful to infer from online comments what 'most Apple users' are thinking.
For one I'd expect this to be a pretty self-selecting crowd and if you ran a similar analysis based on comments on this site you'd likely get very similar results. 'Some say that's fantastic, others say it's the end of the world.' It doesn't really tell us anything more.
Plus, regular users may say in the abstract that they are sceptical, but may be very happy if they can buy a book in the Kindle app for example.
Well played my friend well played.Well I thought it would take two weeks after all it is fortnight/fortnite
So what exactly did they submit? Is it breaking the rules this time? Did Apple say you’re banned forever because you blatantly broke the rules once? The judge’s ruling said nothing about Apple having to allow Epic back on the App Store so I’m not surprised if Apple blows them off or says no.
I genuinely hope Apple doesn’t allow Epic to return to the App Store. If you own a restaurant and a client has done something unethical, you have the right to refuse them access to your establishment.
Disagree. Apple is in full rights to deny Epic residence on the App Store for violating rules.
If someone really wants to play Fortnite, they have a hand dozen other platforms to choose from. Apple is not preventing anything. Silly perspective.
I don't think Apple is being petty. Epic hired a major law firm and plotted out a way to break open the App Store for Epic's own benefit, engaged in numerous shady practices to set up its lawsuit, and now, when Apple refuses to deal with Epic, which is Apple's rights, attempts to have a different company submit Fortnite for approval. In all likelihood, Apple's counsel is looking at whether it can completely refuse to deal with Epic, or any Epic related company, for any purpose, whether it be about Fortnite or Unreal or anything else, moving forward.
I’d expect the Washington Post comment section to be a better benchmark for “average user” than MacRumors commenters. Although will concede anyone who posts on any comment section is probably more technical than the “average user.”
Fair point.
I don't have the game or any current Apple computer.
So a question.
There is no way to play this game on a current Apple computer other than if Apple allows it on its store? There is no separate client or steam, or something one can download from Epic to just play the game?
So a question.
There is no way to play this game on a current Apple computer other than if Apple allows it on its store? There is no separate client or steam, or something one can download from Epic to just play the game?
Apples and Oranges comparison.
iOS has -never- been an open platform. Side-loading has never been available to the general user base.
Apple is being forced to open it up in some markets.
Open is great. I install a ton of open-source software on my Mac via vetted package services (specifically MacPorts), but iOS was never designed nor advertised to allow that, so Apple is not taking anything away that previously existed.
You want open... go with Android. Simple choice.
I didn't argue whether or not Apple has the right to not let Fortnite back on the store, just that they seemed petty for exercising that right.
I'm pretty sure they have legal and tactical and whatever reasons for it. They still look petty.
With all due respect, I think it's sillier to expect people to spend several hundred £/€/$ to play Fortnite, or a tuning that isn't absolutely business critical. That's exactly the reason why 'just buy something else' often doesn't really work here.
Apple, just stop being a dick and acting like a 5yr old!
Of course there is. Macs can run Windows.
I don't know if streaming is restricted in any way?
Epic is only trying to be available everywhere to make as much money as they can. It's about profits, full stop.
Epic -chose- to build Apple platform versions of Fortnite. Many developers choose to ignore Macs and iPhones.
Epic wants residence on Apple's platforms without contributing the same as other developers, yet they themselves make money from "virtual" sales?
Hypocrites.
I do disagree with the 30% fee, but there still needs to be something.
