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Epic vs. Apple Takes a Twist As 35 US States and Department of Justice Weigh in to Back 'Fortnite' Maker
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It's so bad
I honestly sometimes have trouble finding an App that I KNOW the name of...
So much scam and junk
It's literally laugh out loud funny that people are defending the status quo as some pinnacle of great experience
"secure, private, reliable..." lololololol.
Exactly. Also, it's not like that sort of thing wouldn't just attract more legal action. If Apple withdrew from markets and punished their customers as much as some people here seem to think they should, they'd have to start building their own country at sea to stay operating anywhere.
This assumes the states have an actual functioning brain - which they clearly didn't by allowing their AG to go on a snipe hunt.
Because that’s uh, like, uh, like, totally different!
So we should punish Apple because of it? It's not Apple's fault Microsoft gave up.
No company is forced to use iOS either. As a developer, I do not have a gun to my head to make an iOS version of something. And yes, the largest gaming distributor on PC, I need to use Steam.
However, the "iOS Apps are forced to use App Store" arguments are purely ridiculous. "Playstation games are forced to get license fees from Sony". But nobody is forcing me to make my game a Playstation game.
It's not about "punishing" Apple. It's about making sure they aren't able to act anti-competitively in the market. Just because Apple didn't use to be part of a duopoly doesn't mean than can't be subject to regulation for being part of one today.
Ironically, with your example. You can install a Porsche engine in your Honda ?, and there is nothing they do to try and stop you, you can go to any dealership, junkyard to purchase the engine of your choice and put it in your Honda and still provide support for other part of your car... so yea great example
even if it's sarcasm, you can do that RIGHT NOW go to any physical store you want and buy a Nintendo Switch game, you can even go online to any random store and buy Nintendo Switch game keys and put it in your console ? and you don't need to purchase from Nintendo's official store.
You know what you also can do? Only use the official source.
Not at all, steam google and Microsoft aren't the only sources. Apple is the ONLY source for everything.
steam can say we take 30%, if you don't like it you can sell the Windows game somewhere else or even give away keys on your website. iOS developers can only use Apple app store and nothing else.
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I'm not even arguing for a third party store but you people are doing quite the compelling arguments for it to be allowed ironically.
It's like folks don't understand that the rules are trying to protect consumers.
It's irrelevant who's "fault" a situation is or how we got to X number of companies in a space.
We could start with 9 smartphone platforms..
Great...
But get down to 3, 2 and certainly 1 and we have problems and regulators usually need to step in or firms abuse their positions to the detriment of consumers
And how much do you think steam controls if I were to release a game? What is the number of gaming PC users that have steam vs Epic store? You might find it foolish to not make an iOS app due to that percentage, but the same argument applies on PC, I would be foolish not to release my game on Steam.
Completely false. You don't need to use steam because there is an infinite source of competing solutions. iOS app developers are forced to use Apple app store. Steam game developers can use any store they want to sell windows or mac games.
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You're not making the point you think you are. You don't need Steam or Epic to install a game on a PC. You could get it directly from the developers website if you want. You can choose to put your game in a store as well (it's probably a smart move) but it's by no means a requirement. On an iPhone, it's App Store or nothing.
And I don't need to develop on iOS because there is Android. You can't have your argument both ways. Steam is the MOST WIDELY USED AND POPULAR distributor. Yes, I can release my game on my website, but it wont be as wide spread as steam. Therefore, to gain as much distribution as possible, I need to release it on Steam.
The enormously glaring difference that you failed to acknowledge is that if you want to release a PC game, but don't like Steam, you have other options to reach all the same consumers. Everyone's PC will run games both from Steam as well as a multitude of other sources. A dev isn't locked out of access to those consumers and can still reach them through other means. Conversely, if a dev wants to release a smartphone app, in order to reach 60% of U.S. consumers they have to go through the App Store. There are no alternatives to reaching those consumers' smartphones.
Steam may be very popular, but that doesn't change the fact that there are alternative ways to reach that same hardware and consumer base. Not so with iPhones.
If I want my app to be available to the widest possible audience, I DO.
And if I want my PC game to be available to the widest possible audience, I am forced to use Steam.
Again, you are making the market WAY TOO NARROW.
Consumer base is mobile apps. NOT iOS apps.
No you're not because the app is still available to those consumers. They may choose not to buy your software because of the way you've chosen to distribute it, but it is still available to them, should they so choose. Not the case with iOS and iPhone.
No, you're not. There's a difference between being able to get games from Steam and only being able to get games from Steam.