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Epic vs. Apple Takes a Twist As 35 US States and Department of Justice Weigh in to Back 'Fortnite' Maker
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That risk should also include a null and void warranty. You can't go around installing any old potentially harmful software on your phone whilst also expecting to turn up at an Apple Store expecting someone to fix it.
You’re not forced to use the shady App Store.
Other people using a shady App Store won’t give you a virus.
You have more of a chance of getting compromised by being in a contact list on someone's Jailbroken iPhone with older software / iMessage bugs specifically.
For those who aren't tech-savvy, the default vanilla App Store would continue to be a bubblewrapped sandbox for those who desire that safety.
Nope, none at all. Because literally the only difference between iOS and Android are the app stores. ??
Hilarious that some people take this ridiculous view and then have the lack of self-awareness to claim that politicians are the tech illiterate ones.
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Is that what that is now? Just an ordinary bystander citizen raising neutral points that they aren’t at all personally and financially invested in seeing through as the head of the most successful company in the world?
Compelling perspective. Tim Apple is now layman Tim, I guess
You don’t think people are financially invested in the decisions they vote and advocate for?
Do they personally call senators though with hopes to affect outcomes for their own corporation in the form of lobbying and is that the same as voting? You’re railroading your own argument
Yep. Good news for consumers. Looks like momentum is going against apple. Let’s hope apple is forced to offer side loading along with alternate app stores.
Yes, tons of people call. I found the two phone numbers for my senators office online in 30 seconds.
Nothing wrong with using your influence. Tim Cook was making the call, not Tony Soprano.
What is considered a "high fee"? What would be considered a "fair" fee? And who decides? Does anyone really know what the actual costs to Apple are to support all of the apps in the App Store? There are many developers that are involved in updating iOS and revising Xcode.
I’m already salivating at the possibility of game streaming apps, emulators and torrent clients on my iPhone and iPad. It would be a dream come true.
It doesn't answer his question.
If you sign an agreement, does the agreement become invalid many years later if one of the parties becomes dominant in a market?
Apple have already acknowledged publicly that macOS is inherently more risky than iOS in terms of allowing users to install arbitrary unreviewed software. Anti-malware on a Mac is probably a good idea if you're avoiding the Mac App Store.
“I’m so excited to steal content!”
Yeah. That’s really a compelling argument to make. But then, that’s what jailbreaking and sideloading has always been about - pleasing people who want to glut themselves off someone else’s labor without paying.
Ironic that the developers and companies calling for this are much the same.
This is a big risk indeed. If this were to happen, there will be zero benefit for the consumer because companies that will leave the store will continue to charge the same amount and just add the difference to their own balance sheet. A net loss for iOS users in terms of security, privacy and usability will remain.
Why not just force Apple to reduce tarifs? That still seems like the most reasonable solution as it doesn't require outright banning a closed business model.
Copyright is 70 years after the last writer or coder who wrote the work died. Patents are 20 years.
The App Store is less than 14 years.
But US antitrust laws doesn't really support this notion. Having a monopoly because you were first or very early isn't illegal in itself.
it's not really any better on IOS, alot of free apps from small developers on either ios or android have ads build in and have very little functionality.
I just don’t see how we can say and continue to pretend Apple treats all developers fairly as they said many times, when they objectively gave Netflix and Amazon video a better deal on App Store than an indie dev, with only half the normal revenue collected.
We live in a post facts mattering era it
Just comes down to emotional attachments to people and things that takes precedence over any and all other considerations
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Also how does that mesh that macOS is a cesspool of malware from being open (as Craig said essentially- https://9to5mac.com/2021/05/19/craig-federighi-mac-malware-problem/) yet many iOS closed platform users equally love and tout their love for macOS? No hypocrisy or inconsistency in thought there?
We live in a post facts mattering era it
Just comes down to emotional attachments to people and things that takes precedence over any and all other considerations
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Also how does that mesh that macOS is a cesspool of malware from being open (as Craig said essentially- https://9to5mac.com/2021/05/19/craig-federighi-mac-malware-problem/) yet many iOS closed platform users equally love and tout their love for macOS? No hypocrisy or inconsistency in thought there?
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The pressure is getting higher and higher each month from all directions so change finally has to happen if Apple likes it or not.
I don't understand why many people are opposed to the idea of adding more options. Options are not mandatory if you do not want to use it. For the users that want to use Apple payment systems, nothing will change. They still can because this is and will remain an App Store requirement, whatever the outcome of the rulings may be.
So there is no reasonable argument to fight for not having options and diversity if you wont be using those options anyway.
I don't understand why many people are opposed to the idea of adding more options. Options are not mandatory if you do not want to use it. For the users that want to use Apple payment systems, nothing will change. They still can because this is and will remain an App Store requirement, whatever the outcome of the rulings may be.
So there is no reasonable argument to fight for not having options and diversity if you wont be using those options anyway.
In the same way, I don't understand why some want the government to force (bad) change, instead of just voting with your $$$. Seems like this is something each "side" can't understand what the other "side" thought process is.
I am sure the is politicians are not pushing for this because they want to be able to install spywere profile, and store on your phone? When ever you hear this type talk about tech there is usually the motivation of a much smarter person behind it. If this people really cared about tech they would tackle right to repair, digital goods ownership, and of course side loading ( without backing a lying cheating bastard …of a company) if epic win it’s gonna set a precedent for entrapment. It’s legal if you think it’s the right thing to do even if you are not (police)
There never was a reason to place all eggs in one basket. Apple was never a company to trust!