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Counterpoint: A CEO should stay out of personally calling senators and let them decide on their own as is their job responsibility. It's unsolicited spam from a biased source. Stick to making the latest iPhone, not the latest policy it's inappropriate.

Senators aren't personally calling Tim Cook requesting what they want to see in the newest device, at least as far as I know. And if they did, that too would be inappropriate.
Senators work for citizens. Citizens pay them their salary.

Anyways, it's smart for Tim to call. These senators probably have huge egos and getting a call from Tim Cook pulls way more weight.
 
Senators work for citizens. Citizens pay them their salary.

Anyways, it's smart for Tim to call. These senators probably have huge egos and getting a call from Tim Cook pulls way more weight.

I’m not denying Tim is a citizen but it’s disingenuous to cast him as “just a citizen” and not more importantly the CEO of said company under scrutiny for their policies

Senators have grossly inflated egos, I would argue- as does Tim. So doesn’t seem relevant, As much as I find both rather reprehensible on average.

Agree to disagree
 
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Thankfully, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes crap actions like this illegal.
Maybe it shouldn't be. If you make a dumb decision and **** up your phone doing something you were told could compromise it...that's your own fault. You were warned of the risk and did it anyway. Actions have consequences ?‍♂️
 
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This is fascinating. People are using an infrastructure that Apple built to make money and at the same time are complaining to Apple about said infrastructure and what Apple charged for the developers to make money….go figure
 
Not a lawyer, but didn't the contract exist prior to Apple having "monopolistic" power. Would a contract that was formed prior to having that type of "control" be now made invalid due to having that "control"? Especially if the terms had not changed to substantially to take advantage of that control. If I recall when the App Store was created (2008), Apple had a 19.2% smart phone market share. Since Apple's growth took place organically without changing the the contract terms, does the changing marketpower require a change in a static contract?
That was pointed out in the insanely long (180+ page) ruling of the California judge as one of the many reasons Apple was not a monopoly (Case 4:20-cv-05640-YGR Document 812 Filed 09/10/21)
 
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The pressure is getting higher and higher each month from all directions so change finally has to happen if Apple likes it or not.

I don't understand why many people are opposed to the idea of adding more options. Options are not mandatory if you do not want to use it. For the users that want to use Apple payment systems, nothing will change. They still can because this is and will remain an App Store requirement, whatever the outcome of the rulings may be.

So there is no reasonable argument to fight for not having options and diversity if you wont be using those options anyway.

Epic in their case wants to force Apple to support independent app stores.

Also, having options isn't always good. It adds complexity which is bad.
 
I don't understand why many people are opposed to the idea that the real option is to buy something else. I also don't understand why people don't understand that companies are not obligated to make the product they want.

That something else is Android

In a given area you have Comcast and Verizon ISP for example. Don’t like Comcast’s draconian data cap? Well you’ve got Verizon’s egregious data privacy policies to contend with.

Going with “mums and pops” google and “voting with your
Dollars” isn’t really going to show Apple anything in terms of the way of being open. Alternatively going with Apple isn’t going to show Google anything in terms of squashing bugs and a higher quality homogenized UI experience

A duopoly is just a dressed up monopoly layered with a cat and mouse game of one leads and the other shuffled into following bad policy that people will eventually if not immediately be numb and indifferent too.
 
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This is fascinating. People are using an infrastructure that Apple built to make money and at the same time are complaining to Apple about said infrastructure and what Apple charged for the developers to make money….go figure
Funny thing is if even just ONCE...if I were to hear someone...ANYONE outside of MacRumors complain about this...I'd be more inclined to believe it's actually an issue. This is being made into a far bigger issue than it actually seems to be.
 
Just the other day, I was using a friend's Oppo phone.

I tried to help my friend recover some deleted data. Naturally, I went to the Oppo/Android app store to look for "data recovery" apps. My god. What a freaking mess. Every app on there was a scam. None of them did anything except play endless ads and then scan existing data. All the reviews, sometimes 40,000+ reviews were fake.

I get the argument for 3rd party app stores. But the average consumer is going to be duped so easily by low quality app stores and apps.
All the average consumer has to do is stay in the Apple App Store. If they are not smart enough to do this, then they deserve to get what they get. After all, people have learned to not walk out in front of cars on the highway. This is the high tech version of that. We need to quit dumbing down users. To learn users have to experience. Let's smarten up the users and get rid of all of the tech nannies.
 
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Looking forward to day when my family and friends are actually in danger of scams like this because Tencent Tim wasn’t making as much money off of children as he wanted.
 
There's a lot of irony in this. All you have to do is listen to how many people complain about how much more complex iOS has gotten over the last few years!

Society has gotten more complex and our dependence on these devices to do anything (shopping, bills, communication, photography, etc etc etc) has ramped up.

Complexity should be simplified without foregoing what’s needed to be an adequately sufficient tool. It’s not our job to streamline and simplify the complex, it’s Apple’s and if they haven’t done it well it’s fair to call it out.

The problem isn’t features, it’s implementation.
 
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Right, when Apple lobbies they’re “just doing their job.” When other companies lobby, they’re accused of bribing and being underhanded. No double standard there.

But but you’re forgetting we all like our iPhones (as if we needed to be reminded being on MacRumors) so that’s the presiding nuanced argument. Even though that’s entirely besides the point. Just like it's besides the point that 'Fortnite is a trash game I will never be interested in playing'
 
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Nobody is forcing me to use an Apple phone. I bought into the walled garden fully aware and with eyes wide open. I want Apple to do what they deem best. That’s how they got where they are now.


These AG’s are pretending to be acting “for the people” when they are simply running interference for competitors who know how to influence the priorities and policies of the officeholders. They don’t understand the issues. And their voters are bamboozled by propaganda into electing them into office.
That assumes the voting districts are not so gerrymandered a brain damage chimp could run and get elected; though considering the intelligence of some state legislatives that would be an improvement.
 
Why is this even news anymore? It’s just political grandstanding nonsense that has no merit. The media needs to stop giving these clueless annoying politicians a microphone then they will stop. Psst…btw Epic, Apple is STILL lawfully and rightfully going to collect its commissions. You do understand this right?
Leave Britney alone! ????
 
Apple should convince governments to declare iOS and the App Store as a FRAND patent. It will let Apple keep control, and security will not be compromised.
 
Apple's stayed out of gaming in any meaningful way so as not to compete with all the free-to-play games on the App Store – the overwhelming bulk of their App Store revenues (and, in turn, a giant portion of their $19.5B services business).

If Apple is forced to give up their giant cut of every in-app purchase, they'll want a piece of that sweet gaming industry money – as a software, services, and iPhone/Computer/AppleTV maker, they'd be crazy not to. It's far bigger than anything AppleTV+ or AppleMusic could net them. And they'll no longer be constrained by not being able to compete with their IAP cash cow. Further, they'll have all the other games companies – competitors like Microsoft – making lots of gaming money on their devices. They'd be free to buy up companies like Nintendo (and whoever else isn't owned by Tencent, Sony, and Microsoft at that point. In fact, I think they'd be compelled to.

Apple might get dragged by this, kicking and screaming by anti-trust, into being an actual big player in the games space.
 
Then why did you have cable in the first place? TV shows and movies have been available to purchase long before Netflix.
You have it in the first place because there weren't other options. Netflix gave a large back catalog all in one place with shows you wanted to watch at the click of a remote. DVDs of the time could not compete with that nor could cable.
 
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