Then why is this such a massive issue? If nobody would side load, why do we have these non stop lawsuits and complaints? I think when people make the argument like you are making, it’s just proof that this will only help the very very vocal very minority. So why bother?
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Why bother? Because POLITICAL POINTS need taken against Tim Apple, apparently...
Where is the same lawsuit over the XBox store?
Where is the same lawsuit over the PS store?
Where is the same lawsuit over the Nintendo store?
100% agree. We have way WAY too many major issues going on than big Apple not allowing side loading. Come on people.
Yes I do. I have been infected with malware on my macs. I have antivirus on Windows as well. People need to wake up. If macOS and Windows are flipped, malware would be a major issue on Mac like it is on windows.
Cult of brand.
Macrumors has always been like this:
And then:
Honestly, I view this crowd as one of the cringiest of any kind I can think of.
Hopefully, if they are forced to allow sideloading, every time you task to a side-loaded app you have to agree to understand that the app was not downloaded from the app store. Every. Single. Time. Prompt them if the app is in the App Store to download it from there, and if it's not, tell them about alternatives in the app store. Every single time the user switches to the app, even if it's already running. Make sure the user never forgets they got the app from outside the app store and it might be an issue.Uhh, I think we know where the profit center is and that's the iPhone itself. Good luck selling more iPhones when you no longer support countless devs resulting in consumers losing access to their apps.
Really? REALLY? Read up what Microsoft did. Please. Where is the evidence that Apple is doing the equivalent of trying to force Netscape Navigator from being developed? Coercion with OEMs? Intentionally makes porting Sun Java difficult? Yeah. App Store is the same or worse. Give me a break.
I noticed MGM advertised their services in my hotel room. Delta also promoted its services mid-flight. I couldn't find a single reference to Buggs in the Magic Kingdom.
I would get upset with you but people are already hoarding pitchforks.
Cult of brand.
Macrumors has always been like this:
And then:
Honestly, I view this crowd as one of the cringiest of any kind I can think of.
Oh this is one of those, "I invented blah blah" lawsuits, isn't it? Was it filed in Texarkana? Because if it's from there, they literally judge shopped and that was about the time Texarkana judges were out of control with these.
And if they somehow manage to win and it eventually blows up in the state/government's face are they going to look like surprised Pikachu?
I know, right? Imagine people being pro-Apple on an Apple enthusiasts website?
How about I buy an iPhone and Apple obeys the law? (Specifically, anti-trust law.)
This line of thinking does not work. Options will NOT be optional. It’s leaving it up to the developer - not me - if I allow side loading or not.
Similar example. I want to only buy games on Steam. I like only dealing with one account. I like limiting where my credit card is used. Steam has 400 games on my account. All my friends are on Steam.
Now. I want to buy Final Fantasy 7 Remake. It’s one of my favorite games of all time and the remake is amazing. I don’t have a PS5 and the PS4 looks poor and has some frame drops. I have a $3,000 computer that can play it at higher resolution and better frames.
What’s my choice here? It’s only on the Epic Games Store. So my “options” are not really options. I need to set up an Epic account and buy it there.
It’s up to the DEVELOPER and not ME how I want to secure my device. This WILL without a doubt happen on iOS. Epic stated they wanted their own store. To make it able to compete, Epic WILL purchase exclusive rights to prevent it on the Apple App Store. And Apple can’t do anything, just like Steam and Squarerenix can’t break FF7R exclusive contract without severe penalties.
Umm -- have you perused the 1st party Apple App Store lately?
I want to sideload games on my playstation!! Why can I do that? I thought I could do that when I bought it!!! Someone needs so sue Sony for not allowing that! Also I want my own appstore on playstation!!!! Wah wah wah……
Complain about which part exactly? Opening up iOS? Or being an issue if it does happen? It’s a reason why we switched my grandma’s Android out for an iPhone. She downloaded shady Solitare and Sudoku apps causing malware problems.
She didn’t “complain about security”, others in the family did due to the ongoing support nightmare.
Um, Apple forces everyone to use Safari in iOS, which essentially makes all alternative browsers mere Safari skins. So, in effect they’re blocking anyone else from developing alternative web browsers just like MS tried to do.
Exactly
Which would hopefully lead to Apple actually making the terms of their App Store COMPETITIVE in the marketplace of options.
The world you want to live in here is where developers are choosing to stay in the first party App Store because the offering, payment terms, tools and features are so compelling (for developers and their customers alike)
Think for a second what you're saying here. You're saying the Apple first party store terms are so onerous that, right now, given literally any other option -- developers would bail and make their customers use an alternative store.
That tells you, to some degree, how unfair the terms are in the first party store are right now.
The local cable or fiber optic internet provider would prefer if their customers had to purchase their TV content directly from them since they invested in the physical network. But they are regulated and have to allow their customers to be able to purchase content from competitors like NetFlix.
Politicians don’t like anyone getting rich except themselves, or their cronies.
When was the last time you heard a politician question the monopoly power of the government?
You are making a very clear and intelligent and nuanced point here --- that so so so many in the Apple sycophant club are missing entirely.
Fully agree. This would result in REMOVING CHOICE!
Current choice = open vs closed
Possibly new choice = open and……open.
Choice gone. Thanks!
I look forward to being able to use alternate payment methods in the Epic store.
I also look forward to being able to choose from a wide range of internet providers in the area I live in. What is that? Those companies are effective regional monopolies and nobody will address that because they have bought both parties? Okay. Cool.
I also look forward to being able to choose from a wide range of internet providers in the area I live in. What is that? Those companies are effective regional monopolies and nobody will address that because they have bought both parties? Okay. Cool.
But but but! I have brought this up before and the typical counter argument is a fully fledged smartphone is WAY TOO ESSENTIAL TO LIVE. This, requires special rules applied. Yet my grand parents use jitterbug no problem.