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With Apple, you're the customer. With Google, you're the product.
Brilliant. You should make some bumper stickers with this.
That has to be the worst thing that anyone has ever said, the single dumbest line about how "you're the product". They sell... ad space. They use your data to target them at you. Google targets you with ads that companies pay the to put on their space.

Nike doesn't know who you are, they don't get that information.
Not so brilliant.
 
That is what he said. He wasn't even putting Apple down. He just said it is up to them to approve it. Anytime someone from Google says anything, people on this forum freak out like the devil is speaking. It's hilarious. Google doesn't want people blaming them for not having the app available yet. It is smart of Google to speak up in these situations. Otherwise the app might sit in limbo forever.

Now that we know it hasn't even been submitted doesn't it make his comments look pretty ingenuous and dickish? Does to me.....
 
Schmidt being on Apple's board has helped Google, because that way they knew about key features of iPhone OS three months prior to everyone else - and then they had this kind of insight until 2009, when Schmidt had to leave the board.

Now refresh my memory - Schmidt was able to do this via what means if he had excused himself from such discussions during board meetings?
 
So ... was GV reworked and resubmitted? Because it's available now. There are a bunch of Google Apps available so as long as they follow the guidelines, I would imagine they are approved.

For those devs in the crowd (I'm not), does Apple provide feedback on why your app has been rejected (if it is)? I would imagine they have to give you some sort of direction on how to correct (or at least that would make the most sense).

Apple provides feedback in the rejection letter. I've heard of rejections ranging from "your table view highlight needs to go away on after tapping because it looks ugly" to "can't encourage piracy."

In the first case, they're expecting a quick bug fix and resubmit. Was quite surprised when it was mentioned to me since it sounds like they were pretty attentive during the review.

In the second case, they're obviously not going to let you submit a bittorrent client no matter how you try to argue it.
 
Dude. I totally know where you can download Linux for free! PM me, and I'll hook you up with some torrentz.

And where can you download that 'Apple-inspired' touch interface?

BTW, what does Poodle exactly get out of Android?
That doesn't creep you out more than a little?

Supporting Android is the Uncle Tom position on private data gathering:
"I don't care that massa owns me, as long as he lets me sit in the big house for dinner."
 
Now that we know it hasn't even been submitted doesn't it make his comments look pretty ingenuous and dickish? Does to me.....

Look at the CNET article everyone is quoting. It says 'Apple told us'. No quotes, no names, nothing. I would really like to see the actual text.
 
Peace has already been proven wrong in his assertion based on his lack of understanding of the timeline.

And yet - somehow he will move the goalpost of divert the conversation in another way to try and prove his point. But it will be transparent to anyone paying attention.

oh no! Android stole Linux, does Mr. Torvalds know about this!?!?

I was wrong about the year ok ? I admit that much but.

Research Andy Rubin.

Then research NeXTSTEP.

As far as Torvalds is concerned you would have to ask him so he can deny stealing the kernel.
 
Now refresh my memory - Schmidt was able to do this via what means if he had excused himself from such discussions during board meetings?

I think he was still part of the meetings when the first iPhone was shown to the board. It was after those initial meetings that he started to excuse himself from those meetings.
 
Did he kick your kitten too?

Peace didn't mention anything. He alluded to something - but it was so general I'm not quite sure what he meant. Maybe you can clarify. What exactly did Schmidt steal?

And if SJ's trust (in Schmidt) were so muddied - why the glowing statement in the press release when he left the board. Do you really think Steve Jobs would give or sign off on a quote if he really was thermonuclear about Schmidt himself? Does that sound like Steve Jobs? And weren't there reports of both of them having coffee together much later on? Well after Android was on the "shelf" so to speak.

Sorry - doesn't compute.

Schmidt was practically the SINGLE reason why SJ ever uttered the word "thermonuclear". As for "glowing" statements from the Board, they mean either of the following:

- every Board statement is "glowing" by definition unless the guy killed someone's mother;
- the Board didn't have yet full information on Schmidt's criminal deeds.

As for "what" was stolen, I can only point you to the before-after iPhone market offerings...there is no need to elaborate more than that.
 
And where can you download that 'Apple-inspired' touch interface?

BTW, what does Poodle exactly get out of Android?
That doesn't creep you out more than a little?

Supporting Android is the Uncle Tom position on private data gathering:
"I don't care that massa owns me, as long as he lets me sit in the big house for dinner."

Please, can you list what data Android gathers?
 
And where can you download that 'Apple-inspired' touch interface?

You mean the grid of icons that have been around since the mid-late 90's in some shape, form, or fashion?

iOS brought a lot of good stuff to the table, but the basics of the interface itself aren't some brand new thing that's never been seen before. It has roots stretching way back.

BTW, what does Poodle exactly get out of Android?
That doesn't creep you out more than a little?

They're as welcome to partake in my porn and chicken soup recipe collections as much as anyone.

Supporting Android is the Uncle Tom position on private data gathering:
"I don't care that massa owns me, as long as he lets me sit in the big house for dinner."

First off, CLASSY!

Secondly, the information Google collects on you isn't really all that specific. The vast majority of it is anonymous, and...well...yeah, I've been through this conversation a thousand times before, and I don't feel like doing it again. Either go read my responses there, or accept my digest version of what Google does:

It's like being a Nielsen family member, but on the internet.
 
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I think he was still part of the meetings when the first iPhone was shown to the board. It was after those initial meetings that he started to excuse himself from those meetings.

Exactly. He started recusing himself way after the iPhone was shown to the Apple Board...the only ones denying this fact are the Google fans around here.
 

Oh - by all means - let's believe that one without questioning.

I think he was still part of the meetings when the first iPhone was shown to the board. It was after those initial meetings that he started to excuse himself from those meetings.

You think.

Schmidt was practically the SINGLE reason why SJ ever uttered the word "thermonuclear". As for "glowing" statements from the Board, they mean either of the following:

- every Board statement is "glowing" by definition unless the guy killed someone's mother;
- the Board didn't have yet full information on Schmidt's criminal deeds.

As for "what" was stolen, I can only point you to the before-after iPhone market offerings...there is no need to elaborate more than that.

These are your beliefs. they aren't facts.

And I believe one should elaborate more if one is accusing another of a crime. But don't bother. I do know the crap you're referring to and this doesn't have to turn into yet another thread (more than it has) about the guilt or innocence of Eric Schmidt. I can only point you to the several threads that have already discussed this and how it's been debunked. There is no need to elaborate more than that. ;)
 
I was wrong about the year ok ? I admit that much but.

Research Andy Rubin.

Then research NeXTSTEP.

As far as Torvalds is concerned you would have to ask him so he can deny stealing the kernel.

As you seem to know a lot about technology, can you explain in plain words how a GPL source can be stolen if it is used in other project?
 
Update 11:27 AM: Apple has informed CNET that Google has not submitted an iOS version of Google Now to the App Store for review.
Heh, so Google's weird comment was only to spread FUD about the App Store? They certainly tried as much as they could to make it sound like Apple was being a hurdle when it came to allowing Google Now for iOS and that Apple allowing Google Maps was pure luck...

Dirty tricks, Google...
 
The issue is if someone else submitted the app it would most likely already be approved. Apple just hides behind the guidelines when it comes to Google.

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Google Voice.

Perhaps if they first submit the App, it will be easier for Apple to approve it...


Apple will delay, deny, or remove any app that competes now, later or whenever they feel like it.

We will be able to tell if your right once Google decides to submit an iOS app.

Google Voice at one point. It replaced the dialer and used private APIs originally.

Google voice was rejected for using a private API for the proximity sensor.

Source?

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Like? With sources, too

http://daringfireball.net/2008/11/google_mobile_uses_private_iphone_apis

Tell it to the software censors at the iStore. When Apple stops censoring software from Google, then Google will stop complaining about it. Until then, their complaints are legit.

When Google submits an app, Apple might start accepting it!



After FCC started an investigation about that

Nope, they finally approved it after a year. Most likely because of heat from several government agencies.

More likely because the approved version did not use the private API for the proximity sensor..


That claim is false

It was quite accurate.

From Apple itself:

"The application has not been approved because, as submitted for review, it appears to alter the iPhone’s distinctive user experience by replacing the iPhone’s core mobile telephone functionality..."

Note that GV was virtually unchanged when it was finally allowed in the store (I believe some back-end things were reworked for iOS 4).

It was not unchanged. (See above).
 
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And the facts are where?

So where are the facts that support your case? The burden of proof is on the person making extraordinary claims. The Google copying Apple thing is part of the historical record and very recent public consciousness.

We've also repeatedly seen Google deny claims of impropriety, only to get caught and admit it later, each time downplaying that they ever 'intended' to do anything wrong. Better known as - Google is consistently full of ****.

So it's really weird that you'd support their statements as truthful, and argue against the blatantly obvious. :rolleyes:
 
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