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You only need to set a default app once. It’s better than not having a choice.
For the browser, you already had a choice, and for anyone who choses Safari, they have to make that choice every time they get a new phone or major update. Remember when everyone was upset a year or two back at all of the "set up screens" you have to go through? Well the EU added another one for literally no good reason other than "we did it to Microsoft in the 90s, so guess we should do it here too".

The only things the browser choice screen does is confuse non-technical users and increase Chrome's market share when people just select the browser they've heard of before. (You'd be shocked how many iPhone users don't know Safari is called Safari).
 
“Oh no! Won’t somebody please defend/think of the trillion dollar corporations!”

This forum, every single EU article
Not really. To the rest of the world, it's Europe that looks pretty clueless. There will only be further reduction in available services to EU customers, as shown with Apple Intelligence. American firms are not required to do business in Europe...
 
You do not have to defend the dma all of the time.
Correct - and it is not the perfect regulation. The EU is certainly not the perfect regulatory body, either. However, any pressure on Apple that benefits the consumer I am all for.

At least they have the influence, force and courage to call out Apple and other companies on their practices which are detrimental to the consumer.
 
You do realize you are being strong-armed by Apple to hate the EU for their regulations by intentionally gatekeeping features in EU to cause outrage right?

Also, you're free to choose what to use, what not to use, what to install and what not to install - as you should. Therefore, everyone else should have this same freedom.

Even if it's entirely Apple's choice, they did so because of the DMA and the upcoming AI regulations. So absolutely 1000% EU's fault.

Also I am free to choose? Nope. If a developer of an App I need leaves the App Store I don't have a choice. That has been my issue from the start of this stupid regulation.
 
The fact that the EU thinks a browser choice screen is needed when you can already change the defaults is overregulation at its finest.

I dislike being bombarded wit popup windows when as I setup a new device as anyone (and as a side note Apple themselves have made it worse in the past few years).

But on the other hand, if the target is to genuinely put every browser be on a level playing field in terms of access to users, it is either the choice screen and auto-download of the selectee browser, or you force the manufacturer to ship devices with no browser pre-installed at all and let user manually install the one they want.
 
You do realize you are being strong-armed by Apple to hate the EU for their regulations by intentionally gatekeeping features in EU to cause outrage right?

Also, you're free to choose what to use, what not to use, what to install and what not to install - as you should. Therefore, everyone else should have this same freedom.
They're not intentionally gatekeeping features to cause outrage, they're gatekeeping them because it is incredibly unclear whether those features are kosher under the DMA or not.
 
I dislike being bombarded wit popup windows when as I setup a new device as anyone (and as a side note Apple themselves have made it worse in the past few years).

But on the other hand, if the target is to genuinely put every browser be on a level playing field in terms of access to users, it is either the choice screen and auto-download of the selectee browser, or you force the manufacturer to ship devices with no browser pre-installed at all and let user manually install the one they want.
Don't disagree with anything you're saying. I just fundamentally disagree that the default browser choice is something a government should be concerning itself with on a platform that has less than 30% market share.
 
Agree, I don't understand why so many people forget that corporations take decisions in their own interests while politicians take decisions in the interest of the people / consumers.

I do agree some big tech companies have too much market dominance and needs to be forced to open their platforms to some extend.

But at the same time it is very naive to make a blanket statement such as “politicians take decisions in the interest of the people / consumers”. Politicians are considering many other interests in their decisions, including their own interest.
 
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Agree, I don't understand why so many people forget that corporations take decisions in their own interests while politicians take decisions in the interest of the people / consumers.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, politicians take decisions in their own interests, they only want to make you think it is in the interest of the people. Just study what they say, versus what they do. And it been like this for decades. Oh, you're not decades old, then give it a couple of more decades and you'll understand.
 
Even if it's entirely Apple's choice, they did so because of the DMA and the upcoming AI regulations. So absolutely 1000% EU's fault.

Also I am free to choose? Nope. If a developer of an App I need leaves the App Store I don't have a choice. That has been my issue from the start of this stupid regulation.
If you don't trust the store, then don't use the App. It is really pretty simple. You do have a choice. When enough people do this, the developer will get the hint and move to a more trustworthy store. It is pretty simple to someone that understands capitalism.
 
If you don’t agree with it, you can just use the AppStore and all the default apps Apple is giving you. Nothing changes for you!
Except you can’t, because you can’t install an app from the AppStore if it’s not available in the AppStore.

Companies would have to be pretty stupid to remove their app from the AppStore and go only third-party, but I’m sure some have.
 
The DMA is a muddle of a mess.

And besides, I don't see why anyone should get free, unfettered access to the platform they didn't helo build. In digital marketplaces as well as analogue marketplaces, people have to pay their way.

I look forward to them enforcing the same law for the Kindle Store. I'll sell my books there for no fees.
 
Where's their big investigation into Windows 11's privacy violations and constant trashing of defaults and pushing Edge on you and the trash heap that is X gone?
You mean this, where users can uninstall Edge and Bing?


Microsoft did make changes to Windows to comply with other provisions of the DMA and is delivering these changes to Windows PCs in the EEA.
  • The Edge browser and the Bing web search functionality were redesigned so that users can uninstall these applications from Windows using the standard Windows mechanisms that are available for uninstallation if they choose to do so.
  • Microsoft has enabled and provided instructions for third-party web search applications to offer web search services through the search box on the Windows task bar and to rely on any browser of their choice to show a search results page in the same way as the Microsoft Bing web search application. Similarly, Windows enables and has provided information to developers on how to create third-party news feeds in the Windows Widgets panel in the same way as Microsoft Edge.
  • Microsoft also modified the sign-in experience on Windows. Prior to the DMA, Windows automatically signed users into other Microsoft products and services that combined data, including into Edge, Bing, and the Microsoft “Start” service (e.g. news, weather, etc.) when users are first signed into Windows. Windows will no longer automatically sign users into these services.
Finally, Microsoft made a number of changes to how it handles data associated with the use of Windows by users in the EEA.
  • For example, Microsoft has put in place new data handling practices and controls to ensure that any data collected from Windows PCs in the EEA about non-Microsoft applications running on Windows – for example, data collected for the purpose of detecting bugs that impact those applications or Windows – is not used for any competitive purpose against the providers of those applications.
  • Similarly, Microsoft redesigned Windows data consent flows to make clear when Microsoft combines Windows data with data from other Microsoft products and services and it will obtain consent for those data combinations, including issuing new consent screens to existing Windows users where required.

They're even going after Microsoft for their bundling of Teams with Office



But we all know this isn't really about the EU and Microsoft. It's about you and others who are against the DMA.
 
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