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Probably EU politicians are all Apple sheeps and secretly hoarding Macs🤣
Everyone forgot about Windows. It would have been fun to have round two M$ vs EU battle
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EU Consumer Group Summarizes How Apple Fails to Comply With DMA
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Everyone forgot about Windows. It would have been fun to have round two M$ vs EU battle
A lot of us hate government overreach more than we dislike big corporations.
BaldiMac
macrumors G3
What a ridiculous comparison. Market cap is in no way analogous to GDP. Annual revenue would be the apt comparison.Apple would be up there with the biggest. If Apple was a country, its market cap would put it at #7 in the world in terms of GDP
Apple's market cap is larger than all but 6 of world's top economies
Apple stock hit an all-time high this week and is up more than 57% this year, with a market cap hovering at $3.08 trillion.markets.businessinsider.com
This is an absolutely absurd comparison that is not based in any understanding of finance.Apple would be up there with the biggest. If Apple was a country, its market cap would put it at #7 in the world in terms of GDP
Apple's market cap is larger than all but 6 of world's top economies
Apple stock hit an all-time high this week and is up more than 57% this year, with a market cap hovering at $3.08 trillion.
A proper comparison would be Revenue and GDP. In the last 12-months, Apple’s revenue has been approximately $385 billion. That would put it at #41 between Iran and Pakistan.
Addendum: Iran and Pakistan were based on 2022 actuals. If you look at 2024 projections by the IMF, they are still #41, only now Apple would be between Colombia and South Africa.
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Apple should've realised it's impossible to deal with the eu and just said 'no' to their demands. Let them ban Apple.
sw1tcher
macrumors 604
#41... between Hong Kong and South Africa
Did you know: Apple’s revenue exceeds the economic output of most countries
Apple is one of the richest companies on the planet, but it also rakes in enough revenue every year to put national economies to shame.
www.androidauthority.com
In 2023, Apple’s annual revenue amounted to $383.29 billion. And according to GDP data from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), that figure would slot Apple into the 41st position if it were a country, right between Hong Kong and South Africa.
In fact, Apple records higher revenue than the GDP of developed nations like New Zealand, Finland, and Portugal, let alone smaller ones like Bulgaria, Lithuania, and oil-rich Qatar. The bottom line is that Apple’s revenue puts it ahead of most countries’ GDP.
The point remains, Apple would be up there with some of the big and developed nations.
AppliedMicro
macrumors 68040
Great.
No problem.
As long as I can opt for competing apps (such as... a Mail app that supports PGP encryption).
Yes you can: Choose another app that's downloadable from Apple.
Don't like it? Well, I don't like having to download all of my apps from a third party (Apple), rather than the developer themselves.
The difference is: There's lots of alternative choice for the apps you're using - but not lots of alternative choice for the operating system I'm using.
WarmWinterHat
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Governments represent the people. Where else can the populace directly, and legally, push back against corporations?
Corporations should have more power than the people who make up a country.
That's nice, but I absolutely will and would download and use alternatives, but I don't get that choice, on my phone, which I own/. I'm not leasing it, I'm not borrowing, I own it.
rdinterman
macrumors 6502
The EU will never be satisfied, they’ll just keep moving the goal posts.
You don't remember because you are talking about a$$le, but in the past there has been pressure on Microsoft too to remove their browser and other Windows components.
This is a consumer rights organisation. They’re not regulators. They’re not some corporate lobby group. Their only purpose is literally to stand up for consumer rights.
If anti-consumer regulations were introduced, this is the group we’d hear from condemning that, just as much as when we hear from them about corporate anti-consumer practices.
We should all support that. There are few organisations as unambiguously on our side.
If anti-consumer regulations were introduced, this is the group we’d hear from condemning that, just as much as when we hear from them about corporate anti-consumer practices.
We should all support that. There are few organisations as unambiguously on our side.
rorschach
macrumors 68020
What happens when apps leave the App Store and I need to download five different stores, reenter my payment details for each one, and then manage subscriptions across multiple accounts? How is that "nothing changing" for me?
So then competitive advantage to Microsoft, no?
In other words, let the market sort it out.
JSDK
macrumors regular
Again. It will be great to have the option to have an iPhone complete without Apple services, so you have a choice. It won't be an option I want to take advantage of now, but I like having the choice. However, I am sad that due to the EU regulations, Apple is dropping pretty cool features like iPhone Mirroring, it was a function I was really looking forward to when it was presented in June.
Phone Junky
macrumors 68030
If you don’t like the way Apple runs their business, don’t use Apple products. It is really simple. You do have a choice. When enough people do this, Apple will get the hint and change the way they run their business. It is pretty simple to someone that understands capitalism.
They don't seem to care about the consumers who, knowingly, bought into the Apple Ecosystem knowing that it is a closed ecosystem and preferring that to the other options available in the market.
That you like it doesn't mean that it's universally held to be in the "consumer interest."
I've worked in politics my entire life. This statement made me laugh 🙂
And you can choose Android to get multiple App Stores.
No one is forcing you to download your apps from any particular place. You don’t have to use Apple products. You don’t have to eff them up for the rest of us. Go buy android. Buy it from an EU based-company.
Android has lots of app stores for you. There are many versions of Android running around. There are lots of other operating systems too. I listed many of them for you in a different thread. You poo poo them because they suck. Now you want to make iOS suck too.
That's pretty ironic considering the amount of Apple zealots and fanboys defending their beloved identity-brand in every EU thread
the EU is terrible with these rules.
Technology should make things easier not more complicated.
I choose Apple because of there simplicity, integration etc. I still believe there should be a choice that I can chose a closed ecosystem. And I still think we need to make a fist against these rules. because trust me, it won't stop here.
Technology should make things easier not more complicated.
I choose Apple because of there simplicity, integration etc. I still believe there should be a choice that I can chose a closed ecosystem. And I still think we need to make a fist against these rules. because trust me, it won't stop here.
No, these rules are, as Vestager has indicated, an attempt to reduce the profits of Gatekeeper companies. The reason why everything seems disjointed (iPad is not a gatekeeper by the definition, but they decided they wanted it to be a gatekeeper anyway) is because she couldn’t literally have the rules written in that way. So, they’ve been trying to define other ways that they THOUGHT would yield the same result. Unfortunately for them, there’s no way to significantly reduce the profits of the Gatekeeper companies without defining that as the intent in the rules.
And an independent organisation dedicated to nothing but advocating for consumer rights disagrees with you.
It’s your individual preferences that clearly don’t align with the consumer interest, not mine.
Marshall73
macrumors 68030
That’s right, they should end free storage, I’m sick of the freeloaders. 😂
This is mere deflection. It doesn't matter if it's Apple or a lemonade stand, or if it's a trillion or a ten dollar company--overreach is overreach.