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EU Probes Apple's Decision to Shut Down Epic's Developer Account
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Everyone agrees with that. The issue for apple is that there zero need for their SDK to make software for iOS.
It’s only for the certificate it provides that forces the use of it.
Fortunately the EC clearly defined what a gatekeeper is, and Nintendo doesn't qualify, because they don't create app economies that entrench millions of people and businesses.
It’s painful seeing what the EU is doing. Only the hardcore base fans who are fans of Steve Job really care. It’s my opinion the rest who have read about this, see this is a struggle between some government who wants control over American tech and American tech.
Erm…..no, but if you sign an agreement that says you need to abide to apples rules, which presumably means not to lie and insult them at every turn, as well as push updates for your app that circumvents those terms, then yes, Apple has every right to terminate that agreement.
Careful what you wish for. There is a lot of technology that the EU produces that the US depends on. Trade is about far more than social media apps and video games. While it is true that the US manufactures a lot of this technology themselves, the EU is still a very, very important supplier.
Just as one example: There are currently two major manufacturers of large airliners in the world today. One is US based, one is EU based. In case you haven't been paying attention, the US-based one is hurting just a teeny tiny little bit right now because of some unfortunate manufacturing problems with its most important model. A trade war with the EU would jeopardize the ability for US airlines to order planes from the one supplier that isn't currently in major trouble.
Well, we disagree. I have an expensive iPhone, Epic wants to give me a game (or sell me a game) and Apple is saying, no, Epic, you can’s sell it and no, stupid little iPhone owner, WE decide what you can and cannot play. (same for emulators, virtualisation etc). EU has decided it’s not up to Apple to decide that and they’re still doing it. More fines to follow. Apple is so stupid. It’s 100% predictable and more so, they’re really upsetting their userbase. Apple is ‘protecting’ me from using a 3rd party appstore when I go abroad for a while? Really? No, Apple, thank you very much.
Airlines don’t make a lot of profit anyways. And that would hurt Airbus more than it would America. It would actually help America because they would have to buy from Boeing.
Simple. US government wants to have a stronger position in talks with Apple so they actually "encourage" EU to attack Apple.
..up to the point where the government of a given jurisdiction says that such terms are illegal.
Well this is a thread about the Epic issue. So I guess if the specific does not fit your anti-EU bill we can talk in general right?
The truth is, there is not targeting of US companies and you know that. Or at least, now you may understand that is not the case. No EU company currently has an App Store or interest in building one for now.
Consider if Apple and Microsoft were European companies. I'm sure you would recognize the principles I shared on my other post. It has nothing todo with being American or otherwise companies.
Ridiculous notion. You’re implying that this extremely contentious rule was set up without experts in the field? Come on now.
I don’t believe they are upsetting their entire user base. I’m sure some are annoyed and might even leave apple. Epic tried to defraud apple, lost a lawsuit and are paying legal bills. Apple is well within their rights, imo.
One knows what apples ecosystem is about at this point. Buy an iPhone or not.
Don’t ya reckon the government of a 27 nation bloc can do more than one thing at once?
Did you not read what I said? When that clause is illegal, Apple has no hold over this. Not while Apple agreed to follow the laws in said countries. If Apple says in the iTunes agreement that I vow to get a slave, then please tell me which country would enforce Apple's "claim"?
If Apple doesn't (which will likely be the case here), then this is another gamble of their poorly staffed legal team it seems.
Last time I checked Arm was British, right? Let's see what Apple can do without its A and M chips whose intellectual property is superceded by Arm. Imagine them moving to the British part that is in the EU. Apple would lose its high ground in a fortnight.
It is also possible that both parties are a "bad guy" in different ways.
What I don't know, because I'm not a lawyer in the E.U. (or anywhere else for that matter), is whether it's part of Apple's strategy to more or less expose before the court what Epic's hidden functionalities are.
That could have serious implications on the whole of the DMA that might have sounded good in concept but may not have been thought through, especially if it enables software manufacturers to exploit users in ways that run contrary to the spirit of E.U. tech laws and consumer protections, e.g. GDPR.
Oh you think Epic are babies for talking to the courts instead of taking it laying down?
it seems more Apple is the one who act like babies instead of as adults and talking to the courts instead of lashing out like they own the place
There is no trade war between the EU and USA from the part of the EU. Don't make things up. Its just Apple being Apple.
PS: Who blown the Nord Stream Pipeline? ... I guess time will tell.
Epic is the one who tried to defraud apple. They lost their court case and have to pay legal fees and lost hundreds of millions in revenue. Who’s the crybaby? It ain’t apple.