lol 100% of shareholders would disagree with you, and apple rather listen to its shareholders than you. eu accounts for 23.3% of apple's profit.
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EU to Accuse Apple of Unfairly Blocking Third-Party Access to NFC Payment Technology on iPhone
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no matter which side of the issue you are on, governments forcing a company to accommodate a competitor is the opposite of capitalism.
I will never use an App Store other than Apple’s and I will never allow third party apps to access NFC hardware. I hope Apple will keep this deactivated by default and make sure that Apps have to ask for some very specific permissions before accessing any of it.
they are minding their own business, its apple that choose to deal business with the european parliament.
To be fair they have a point. There’s no technical reason why payments via NFC shouldn’t be allowed on other platforms, given the apps and services themselves would undergo strict reviews before release.
To me it feels like another case of, because Apple’s own platform works so well, there’s no need for competition in the same space.
Also, the EU isn’t just the US with a lot of different languages. It’s a wide variety of cultures and societies that have very different approaches to product user experiences - so it’s understandable that any situation like this is going to create discussion.
To me it feels like another case of, because Apple’s own platform works so well, there’s no need for competition in the same space.
Also, the EU isn’t just the US with a lot of different languages. It’s a wide variety of cultures and societies that have very different approaches to product user experiences - so it’s understandable that any situation like this is going to create discussion.
The EU will never stop meddling until they have total control over every last entity in the observable universe. Then they’ll go after something else. Anything to stay in a job.
To sum it up, you have no idea what you’re talking about ?
So you’d advocate leaving a market the size of the EU and foregoing those profits in light of changing legislation?
If you become CEO of a company please announce it in this forum, in bold letters, so that I can advise my portfolio manager to take a short position on that company’s stock.
Yes but in their rush to defend poor little mom-and-pop shop Apple, all brain cells get thrown out of the window. See suggestions for Apple to pull out of a market with ~700 million middle class consumers.
I find this rather confounding. I’m an American in Korea and I can’t use Apple Pay at all. Everything is Samsungpay or Kakao Pay… all home grown. They just recently in the last few years allowed apple stores in the country. No one is crying foul about how This whole country despite a good chunk (not knowing the specific percentage) of the population use iPhone. But back to the point… consumers are exercising their choice to choose apple vs whatever else is out there. Don’t force those of us that like the eco system into a less secure one.
We'd barely notice. Ok technically I'm in the UK not the EU but I expect it's the same. The days of Apple phones being ubiquitous across this side of the Atlantic are long gone. I work in a business with about 400 other employees and, scaling up from the 100 or so employees I know, maybe ten of us have an iPhone. Outside my own family who are all musicians/creators, no one I know owns a Mac, and you never ever see them in UK offices: all Windows PCs. Apple Watch? Literally never seen anybody anywhere wearing one. Air Pods are probably the most common-seen Apple device, but if they disappeared, people would mostly get along just fine with some other equivalent wireless earbud.
There’s certainly blind defense of “daddy” here, but it’s not from the people defending Apple…
What I find concerning is the combination between uncontrolled apps from third parties and an open API to the payment system.
For any app not coming from the Apple App Store there is no safeguard against it using APIs it shouldn't. So if you just sideload the funny fart app everyone is talking about, it may access your payment data even though you don't consider it a "payment app".
Apple has the good concept of entitlements for apps, but that requires someone reviewing these and denying distribution of apps that want to do things they shouldn't.
What the are trying to do is extremely dangerous and reckless. Under political agenda, they will destroy mobile security for millions of users.
What an ignorant comment …
The thing is, though, it’s pretty easy to argue that it is the merit of Apple’s hardware, software, and approach in general that’s making people want their proprietary approach.
One can want Apple to more flexible and also oppose governments forcing them to do so.
Bottom line, you don’t have to buy Apple. I’d prefer sideloading but not so much that I’d switch to Android to get it.
Well, Apple can exists ONLY, because the EU is an open market. the EU could have well said: "Hmm, no, we don't want Apple".
Apple is able to sell iPhone and computer ONLY because there are laws that are enforcing some companies to grant fair licence. Otherwise, Apple would have never had the right to sell a device that uses Wifi, or bluetooth or Mobile Networks. Nokia could have said: "Our material is allowing only Nokias on the cellular network, and bam, like there is only Apple that has access to NFC on iPhone, only Nokia would have had phone connected to a cellular network"
The iPhone would have been nothing without developers. Only thanks to those devs, Apple made hundreds of billions. In the opposite, devs would have had a job anyway. Worst case, just works to create Android apps.
Apple is just totally hypocrite. When something protects them from others and allow them to make money, it is good. When something protect others from them, it is something scandalous.
And in the EU that dirt would at least be inclusive of taxes and sourced through proper competition, and a 2 year warranty.
Then don’t install any app not from the Apple App Store.
Anecdotal evidence. Love it. Based in the EU myself, and more than half of the employees in my office have iPhones. We have the choice between PC and Mac work machines, and almost everyone chooses the Mac. So, there.
EU will one day cancel itself, regulation upon regulation… It seems that everything that is OK in other parts of the world bothers EU bureaucrats or is rather the reason for their existence, as they would otherwise feel useless (what they actually are). 99,9% of people use Apple because of the ecosystem and would prefer for it to remain locked and secure. There is already suitable alternative on the market for those who like unrestricted access (not to mention that it has a majority of market share). Apple should stand firm in this case, as I would like to see the bureaucrats explain to the users that iphones are no longer available in the EU because of them - the ones that are working for benefits of that same users.
Simple question. If you are so opposed to Apple‘s closed system, why do you buy their product? Nobody is forcing any one to buy an iPhone. If you’re in such opposition buy something else.
This sounds just like people who buy houses next to an airport and then complain about the noise.
This sounds just like people who buy houses next to an airport and then complain about the noise.