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EU Warns Apple About Limiting Speeds of Uncertified USB-C Cables for iPhones

darngooddesign said:
No.

Apple didn't use the Pencil 2 because its magnetic charger would go where the landscape camera is. There will need to be a new, Pencil 3 before both can be accommodated.
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no. landscape camera doesn't even take up that much space. very little benefit from moving to a landscape camera but serious downsides to continue using Pencil 1 with a dongle. doesn't quite make sense. and what is Pencil 3 going to do? attach to the corner of the device?

even if there really is no more space, more than likely they moved the camera because they knew that area wasn't going to be occupied by a charging connector. even an off center camera would solve that issue.
 
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how old are you? Sure kids young kids have it a bit harder but not that much. Anyone can make decent money by the time they are 40 - easy!
If you tell me that its not possible than I would question your method. There is no way that you can't 'make it' if you work hard. There is tons of opportunities everywhere.

h3ysw5nkan said:
That's not it. I went to posh private schools. I have advanced degrees and came from an affluent family. I have it relatively easy, but I know what's like for normal people my age. Well, imaging having to pay for things as a young adult without using your parents' money. I am perfectly fine, but most young Canadians are struggling, and it's not their fault.

We have a name for your response like that. It's called the "back in my day" speech.

Well guess what? It used to take 6 years for a median Canadian to save up for a 20% down payment for a median house in 1970, now it takes 27 years. Interest rate used to be around 2%, now it's around 7%. That's 1970, if you rewind even longer, the disparity grows exponentially. The thing is, by the time you saved for 27 years, asset inflation would've gone up even more. That's not what boomers had to pay for a house, they bought houses for $25k back then, and now asking for 2 million. Just look at what utter trash of a house is selling in Toronto for 2 million.

The bigger problem is the Canadian elected officials are so corrupt, they are in the pockets of the real estate developers and REITs. They pass zoning laws that make it very difficult to increase housing supply, so prices are propped up. That's just one example. Don't even get me started on the Telecom industry.
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usagora said:
So I think you understand now that you misunderstood where I was coming from. I'm not one of those who advocates for the abolishment of all governmental organizations. But there has to be a line drawn at some point, and to me there's a distinct line between public health, safety, and well-being and consumer convenience.



But who cares about Apple's engineering? This is about benefitting the consumer, remember? And I'd make the same point pre-Apple Silicon. For instance, the EU should've forced Apple to design the 21.5 inch iMac with easy-upgradable RAM (to do it, you had to remove the display and other parts to get to it--not exactly "consumer friendly", right?) And same goes for soldered SSDs or otherwise hard-to-replace parts.

I'm just pointing out that people are not being consistent with this. If they were, then they'd quickly see what an insane mess it becomes when we give government way too much control over product design.
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Hysterical to the point of comedy.

Apple got forced by regulation to ditch their money spinning proprietry port for one that is technically superior. No other phone manufacturer was effected because they were all using it anyway.

I doubt it will effect your dividend and it isn't a globalist conspiracy.
 
tripsync said:
no. landscape camera doesn't even take up that much space. very little benefit from moving to a landscape camera but serious downsides to continue using Pencil 1 with a dongle. doesn't quite make sense. and what is Pencil 3 going to do? attach to the corner of the device?
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It doesn't matter how much space the camera takes up, both it and the Pencil 2's magnet are centered. Cant have both of them there.

The Pencil 3 can have smaller dual magnets on either side of the camera.
tripsync said:
even if there really is no more space, more than likely they moved the camera because they knew that area wasn't going to be occupied by a charging connector. even an off center camera would solve that issue.
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The biggest complaint about the current portrait camera is its off-center view in landscape, and Apple is not a fan of off-center things. In the end, Apple charges more for the Pencil 2 so they would have used tif their decision was financially motivated.
 
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Ctrlos said:
No but when the largest company in the world fails to adopt an industrial standard to the detriment of consumers, someone has to step in.
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Why?

If it mattered enough to the customers, they would be the competitor's superior product.
 
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frenchcamp49er said:
So in a few years when tech evolves the EU will be left behind
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No.

First of all USB-C is just the port shape, that port shape has already iterated through several data (USB2, USB3, TB3, TB4, etc.) and charging speed increases. There is no reason to think it wont handle even more in the future.

Secondly, the regulation allows for a new standard port should a better one arise.
 
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icanhazmac said:
So the EU will compensate people who have their phones destroyed by cheap cables from China? Will they compensate people who have property destroyed when cheap cables melt and start fires? Complain all you want about MFI certifications but at least it guarantees that the cable will be robust enough to handle the draw from the device.
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Could Apple put a chip on the port that knows if it’s MFI Certified?

If so, then allow identical charging but deny warranty replacement for damage caused from a non certified cable? Is this realistic?
 
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Ctrlos said:
No but when the largest company in the world fails to adopt an industrial standard to the detriment of consumers, someone has to step in.
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My point was that government officials make dumb assumptions and comments about things they don’t understand. In general, congress/parliament members don’t understand tech, (or firearms or furries)
 
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Freida said:
how old are you? Sure kids young kids have it a bit harder but not that much. Anyone can make decent money by the time they are 40 - easy!
If you tell me that its not possible than I would question your method. There is no way that you can't 'make it' if you work hard. There is tons of opportunities everywhere.
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It is possible, and I will be fine because of my family background, my IQ, and my education. Majority won't be so lucky.
 
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It will be the responsibility of the iphone owner to make sure they purchase a USB cable that conforms to Apple's specification and/or EU's specification. If owners go out and buy a very cheap Chinese USB cable which has the potential to burn out and cause a fire, that is not Apple's problem or the EU's, it is the owners problem for not purchasing a conforming USB cable
 
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darngooddesign said:
It doesn't matter how much space the camera takes up, both it and the Pencil 2's magnet are centered. Cant have both of them there.
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It does matter when you can put the camera offset from center.

darngooddesign said:
The Pencil 3 can have smaller dual magnets on either side of the camera.
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but you just argued the camera is in the way. where would you put the charging coils if magnets are on either side of the camera? this makes no sense.

darngooddesign said:
The biggest complaint about the current portrait camera is its off-center view in landscape, and Apple is not a fan of off-center things.
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iPhone's camera module (which isn't even in the center, horizontally) shifts the magsafe battery off center vertically. Same thing.



darngooddesign said:
In the end, Apple charges more for the Pencil 2 so they would have used tif their decision was financially motivated.
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no.
 
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Hails09 said:
You are joking aren’t you? Even the new Apple TV has a usb-c port. Apple could have changed this port with iPhone X then everyone would have been prepared for the change by saying something like this new iPhone is the best we have every made & it now deserves the most efficient port.
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Apple hasn’t updated the port because billions of devices, yes billions, of devices use the lightning port. And Apple has been working toward a port-less, button-less phone. The EU forcing Apple to make a billion users upgrade their cables, for a few years, just to get rid of them all is pointless. It’s better for the user, if we all stay on lightning, until Apple releases the port-less phone.
 
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JamesHolden said:
Show me the evidence that non-MFI cables are causing an epidemic of damage. There are probably 100x as many non-MFI cables as MFI-certified cables sold. I see no evidence that there's an epidemic of poor quality cables wreaking havoc on devices. This just seems like another Apple marketing talking point that gets parroted by fanboys on sites like this. Where's the evidence? Where are the stats?
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There is no evidence. I just see the inevitable bitching where people ask a government to allow one thing and then the unintended consequence happens and then they demand the same government to fix the problem they voted the government to do.

This is why I love democracy.
 
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