not an issue.
front charging port will fray the cable because people would use the mouse while it's plugged in. apple cables aren't meant for that.
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EU Warns Apple About Limiting Speeds of Uncertified USB-C Cables for iPhones
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front charging port will fray the cable because people would use the mouse while it's plugged in. apple cables aren't meant for that.
I think I side with the EU on this. A regulation to prevent the regulation of USB-C by Apple. In the US that is called freedom of choice. If you want to use a cheap 3rd party cable, that's on you. If anything is damaged as a consequence, go after the cable manufacturer, not Apple.
Just like IF they are planning to contravene traffic laws, IF they are planning murder, IF they are .....and so ad infinitum. So threats of what you MAY do IF they do something are a bit pointless. I don't believe they've ever had any intention of limiting USB-C, because if they did it would not comply to the USB-C performance so it wouldn't be USB-C
When your house burns down, will you blame Apple? Genuine question.
HobeSoundDarryl
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💰💰💰 sometimes conflicts with doing what is best for customers. Yes, that should be illogical on first glance, but I suspect about 90% of the reasons phones still have Lightning is solely driven by 💰 (in proprietary) vs. any other reason. Yes, there is plenty of spin trying to make it about something else, but at least I myself think it is almost entirely about the 💰.
Apple launched us into the standardized USBc in that MB mini. iPads are already USBc too. Nobody seems to take issue with USBc where Apple is already using it. Apparently it is simultaneously just fine where Apple has chosen to embrace it and terrible, unwanted, fragile, jiggly, et all where Apple is not yet using it.
I fully expectat that once Apple formally embraces it in iPhone, most of the crits about it in phones will evaporate overnight.
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thanks to EU, people are throwing out good working lightning cables and spending millions of dollars on usb c cables which creates tons of co2
EU creating an absolute environmental disaster.
I was being silly and saying that I had never heard about powerbricks and that perhaps all my electronics exploding was because, I wired the cables directly into the wall.
Are you implying that EU regulations might trigger Apple to ragequit out of the EU? I see that fantasy a lot on these forums and I just can’t imagine Apple would ever do that.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Nope. Apple would always want the huge revenue of the EU over any "little tweaks." See SIM card models of iPhone still being made for select countries and doesn't China have a dual SIM card model? I suspect juggling various SIM-card configurations for select markets is much more complicated than USBc vs. Lightning jacks.
When revenue crashes into design tweaks, revenue wins every time.
Those popups are annoying and many people have come to dismiss them without reading, but I think it's a good idea. Let the cable utilize the full capabilities, but warn the user first that they are using a cable that has not been certified, so use at their own risk. Seems like the right solution. The annoying popup may be enough to keep them buying certified cables.
Genuinely silly question, you mean. Not even gonna entertain that, lol.
Removing the SIM card actually reduces costs, so that argument doesn't hold up.
How is forcing USB-C ruining Apple products?
There's about a million rules and regulations, in addition to industry standards, that define how products must be designed, what safety standards they have to meet, how they can be sold, to whom, etc etc etc
Why are we acting like electronic devices, or digital services for that matter, should somehow be exempt from that?
Hm... The "limit" I was thinking was making them include a Firewire port and SD slot on every iPhone, but well, yeah.
I can’t see it myself a lot of people throwing out lightning cables when not everyone will upgrade to iPhone 15 pro & max. The spare cables will just get passed down to family members who stick with there iPhone for a good few years yet.
But it's not.
- Person buys cheap charging cable.
- Fire is started.
- Person sues phone manufacturer for causing a fire.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Presumably, China requires Apple to offer a SIM card version. So instead of pulling out of selling iPhone in China because Apple doesn't want to make a special version for that market, they opt to make a special version for that market. They choose China's revenue vs. the cost savings of bailing on China because they don't want to deliver an iPhone with a SIM card slot.
Same here. OP implied Apple could pull out of the EU instead of complying with demand for USBc and now unhindered USBc. My argument is that Apple would rather have the EU revenue vs. pulling out of the market entirely to get their (rumored) way of hindered USBc to keep that MFi money flowing.
I see your point......but they sell a bunch more iPhones than iPads. So they stand to make a few 100 million to charge cable makers lets say 2$ licensing fee to have a cable labeled as certified from Apple to be safe for your iPhone.
Dumb euro bureaucrat ***** don't understand how technology works, news at 11.
"WE WANT ALL USB-C CABLES TO WORK THE SAME"
Yeah and I want a ****ing flying pony taking me to my castle above the clouds.
"WE WANT ALL USB-C CABLES TO WORK THE SAME"
Yeah and I want a ****ing flying pony taking me to my castle above the clouds.
No worries.
Apple will comply. And will simply pass the extra cost (plus their 40% GPM) for a better cable on to iPhone purchasers.
Life goes on. Not a biggie.
Apple will comply. And will simply pass the extra cost (plus their 40% GPM) for a better cable on to iPhone purchasers.
Life goes on. Not a biggie.
It’s easy, but decent ones and don’t trust a cable that’s 2€. Easy. Also clamp down on the crap manufacturers that send these things to us. USB-C is also a standard, just like Made for Apple.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
It doesn't. Some of us take offense only because we know Apple would rather keep the MFi gravy train rolling. Where Apple has already gone USBc, you will not find the same passionately-arguing people ripping Apple up and down for embracing USBc there.
In other words, where Apple has already embraced USBc, it is the right and ideal choice of port. Where Apple has not yet embraced USBc, it makes no sense, it is a fragile port, wobbly, expensive to repair, et all.
In a few months, Apple will roll out new iPhones with USBc and most of the anti-USBc arguments will evaporate. It's always this way.
Once Apple rolled out a new iPad with Retina and a new iPad without Retina in the same event. The one with Retina made "perfect sense" and the one without Retina made "perfect sense." The next year, Apple rolled out the latter iPad with Retina and Retina was the primary reason everyone needed to upgrade that iPad... because Retina made "perfect sense." 🤯
See phablet-sized phone arguments BEFORE Apple went there. NFC payments before Apple went there. Etc. This will be the same.
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Good, **** you apple
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You are joking aren’t you? Even the new Apple TV has a usb-c port. Apple could have changed this port with iPhone X then everyone would have been prepared for the change by saying something like this new iPhone is the best we have every made & it now deserves the most efficient port.