do you really believe that? do you honestly believe the world's millions upon millions of "exclusive" apple product owners are sitting around gloating about their 30-pin adapters? uhhh...yeah.
so whens graduation?
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European Commission Moves Forward on Micro-USB Smartphone Charging Standard
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do you really believe that? do you honestly believe the world's millions upon millions of "exclusive" apple product owners are sitting around gloating about their 30-pin adapters? uhhh...yeah.
so whens graduation?
That's a terrible point, because the dock connector is also used for accessories that can take advantage of the other "magical unicorn-like properties".
I hate the idea of an adapter. It may comply with the agreement, but it undermines the goal of having a convenient common charging standard for all gadgets. There's no reason Apple can't add a micro-USB for charging only and keep the 30-pin for connectivity. Europe's program is a wonderful idea - big reduction in unnecessary waste.
The same USA that didn't mandate a standard wireless technology and allowed cell phone providers to build out GSM, CDMA, and TDMA networks instead of picking a standard; resulting in more more towers, more cost, and less coverage for consumers? Shocking
I was thinking exactly the same thing. If you can use an adapter, then what's the point of having a standard? Make no sense.
You're embarrassed to live in a country that doesn't control every aspect of everyone's lives and businesses down to the most minute detail? Wow.
Don't worry, we'll be there soon.
I'd find it embarassing if US congress proposed legislation on the subject. Leave that stuff to the companies and ISO. This whole thing is nonsense anyways. As already mentioned, what about when USB becomes obsolete?
Speak for yourself. I only associate with 30-pinners. I even installed separate water fountains at my shop.
Not much understanding about electronics in this post.
This isn't going to be a problem. Don't worry yourself.
RTFT
Only data and power is passed through USB. Accessory manufacturers can access all those other goodies through the dock connector directly.
Have you ever even owned an iPod?
I wish the government would regulate pants sizes. The definition of a "38 inch waist" varies wildly from one manufacturer to another. I should be able to buy pants without having to try them on first.
That would benefit a lot more people than standardized chargers.
That would benefit a lot more people than standardized chargers.
The idea is that when you bought a mobile phone, and then they rip you off for £20 for a charger that shouldn't cost more than £5 including some serious profit margin, and then you switch to another mobile phone, then the second company shouldn't be able to rip you off for another £20.
Or when an email goes round in the office it's not "does anyone have a charger for a soandso model soandso mobile phone", but "does anyone have a charger for a mobile phone that I can borrow".
Or that I can buy a mobile phone charger for my car and it will charge _any_ mobile phone.
No, it does not. The idea is not to make it easy to charge your device at your friend's house, it is to make it such that you don't have to pay for a new charger (and throw away the old ones) every time you buy a new cell phone. Many cell phones already charge through USB, so I doubt it matters. I wish cameras were to standardize on USB as well. It would reduce the number of chargers I need to pack for the two most common items to take on a vacation.
No, the other end will still be the regular USB. The requirement for micro-USB is that the phone has a micro-USB (or compatible) port. What Apple will likely do is include a male 30-pin by female-microUSB adapter in Europe. This way, folks in Europe would be able to use a "universal" micro-USB charger. The adapter connects to the iPhone, and the universal charger would connect into the adapter.
And you really believe this is the kind of pettiness government should be involved with, using its threat of force? Are there really no other solutions - like maybe be a more organized person, don't lose your charger? Maybe be an informed consumer that sees which phone has the best and cheapest accessories before buying?
I swear, if I asked most of you what the biggest threat to freedom is, you'd probably say "the religious right", because of their supposed desire to legally regulate human sexuality. But you're all for bureaucrats and their demonstrated desire to regulate every other aspect of your life, even down to what you will use to charge your cell phone.
Why not let consumers decide?
I see a lot of posts on here arguing about whether Apple's 30-pin connector is better or worse than a plain micro-usb. My question is: why not just let consumers decide which one they like better rather than forcing everyone to use the same one? Come on, it's not like it's a HUGE hassel, and more importantly, no one's rights are being violated.
My prediction is that as usual, there will be negative unintended consequences of unnecessary regulation in the form of higher costs to consumers for Apple products (and other companies who don't want to use the micro-usb connection), more chargers in landfills rather than fewer because everyone will accumulate more excess chargers, less innovation because companies are prevented from adding functionality (through higher costs) with proprietary connectors like Apple's, etc.
Basically, everyone is going to be worse off except the bureaucrats who are hired to enforce these new regulations. This kind of pettiness is not the purpose of government. Even my left-leaning friends should agree to that.
I see a lot of posts on here arguing about whether Apple's 30-pin connector is better or worse than a plain micro-usb. My question is: why not just let consumers decide which one they like better rather than forcing everyone to use the same one? Come on, it's not like it's a HUGE hassel, and more importantly, no one's rights are being violated.
My prediction is that as usual, there will be negative unintended consequences of unnecessary regulation in the form of higher costs to consumers for Apple products (and other companies who don't want to use the micro-usb connection), more chargers in landfills rather than fewer because everyone will accumulate more excess chargers, less innovation because companies are prevented from adding functionality (through higher costs) with proprietary connectors like Apple's, etc.
Basically, everyone is going to be worse off except the bureaucrats who are hired to enforce these new regulations. This kind of pettiness is not the purpose of government. Even my left-leaning friends should agree to that.
In this case, I don't see why anyone would complain.
Cheaper Chargers
More convenience for users
Where is the downside?
Are you asking me whether I want to keep paying £25 for an Apple charger or ~£3 for a Micro USB one?
Apple doesn't have to change the connection on the iPhone or any of it's products. An in-line adaptor on the USB to Dock cable is all that's required.
The problem with this plan is either of two things will happen.
1. Manufacturers will no longer include a charger with the phone, unless the phone has specific charging needs (like the iPad). You'll have to make sure you have a microUSB charger before you buy. I think many people will be upset and view this as gouging.
or
2. Manufactuers will continue to provide chargers in the box ... which does very little to reduce the amount of chargers manufacturered.
The only upside I see in this is that you could buy one car charger and use it for all phones, present and future. Although, when we upgraded our phones, I made sure both mine and my wife's phone used the same charging interface, just for that reason.
The bigger question is WTF is the UU even care which standard is better, now is mini USB better not much you can do with it.
I like standards but this just seem silly to me.
The downside is it is one more thing you don't get to decide as a business or as a consumer. It has nothing to do with chargers.
If you do not want to breath polluted air then move to another city. Well, no! That's why we have regulatory bodies which can enforce rules on companies.
If you do not want to pay 300 dollars overdraft fee then do not open a bank account. If you do not want to work for 1 $ per hour well then find another job. This can go forever . Capitalism ( i m not against it ) , companies need to be regulated by non profit seeking bodies.