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General Evasi0n team speaks

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Batman89

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Dear Jailbreak Community,

We are deeply troubled by the rumors and speculation surrounding our iOS 7 jailbreak. We would like to present the whole story to you.

Most of the concern surrounds the inclusion of the Chinese App Store Taig. In the course of developing the iOS 7 jailbreak, we were approached by the company with an offer of partnership in offering Taig bundled with the jailbreak in China. Taig is a Chinese App Store written in Chinese. tailored and, we believe, well suited to meet the needs of users for the Chinese market. Users are not locked into Taig. Cydia can also be installed and Taig removed afterwards. It would be deeply hypocritical to remove choice from the user in the course of jailbreaking.

Taig has never asked us to disclose our exploits to them, let alone sell them. We were simply asked to bundle their third-party app store in China in a similar way we bundle and distribute Cydia around the world as an additional App Store, and in a similar way to how previous jailbreaks like blackra1n have bundled non-Cydia stores.

Of course, the safety and security of our users is a paramount concern, and due to the amount of close scrutiny by security professionals around the world, we offer one of the lower risk programs available for download on the Internet. We are saddened by the accusations that we would ever do such a thing, or sell weaponized exploits. If anyone ever attempted to include malware in a jailbreak, we are confident that the many security experts combing through jailbreak software would find it. The binaries are obfuscated for a similar reason to why we have in the past compiled in Cydia rather than including it as a separate file. We wish to secure the integrity of the jailbreak and discourage its use by third parties who may in fact wish to weaponize it. The obfuscation is of course not intended to deflect serious analysis by security professionals (who have quickly already fully analyzed and discussed the contents of the jailbreak), it is simply intended to prevent easy repackaging by other parties.

Preventing piracy is also extremely important to us. We are deeply sorry and embarrassed about the piracy that was seen today. All of us have spoken out vehemently against piracy in the past. We don’t believe it’s right for developers to not get paid for their work. In our agreement with Taig, we contractually bind them to not have piracy in their store. This was an extremely important precondition of working with them. In entering the agreement with them, we had hoped and continue to hope that our cooperation with Taig will improve the piracy situation in China. Many App Stores within China, including those run by large corporations, have many issues with pirated software. Promoting an app store that is required not to have piracy with our jailbreak, we believe, will help developers.

We are very upset that despite our agreement and review by their team, piracy was found in the store. It was not acceptable and they have been strenuously working to resolve the problem in good faith, and have removed all instances of it that we have brought to their attention. We are happy that it was not overlooked by the community. We’ve been so heads down working on the code that we didn’t see this. We are sorry. We will continue to monitor this issue and work to resolve it completely. Taig will be pulled from the jailbreak if it cannot be resolved.

Many of you have also wondered why this jailbreak was released without Cydia and MobileSubstrate being updated for iOS 7. After we received the offer from Taig, we informed Saurik, our friend, of our decision to accept the offer. SaurikIT had been in talks with Chinese companies regarding potential partnerships, made a counteroffer. We believe they share our views on how a relationship with companies in China currently utilizing jailbreaking might benefit everyone in the community. Unfortunately, the negotiations did not work out. A few days later, we received information that SaurikIT was working with another group to release a jailbreak ahead of us. We decided to release, knowing that Cydia, MobileSubstrate, and jailbreak tweaks would be updated after a few days, just as it always has in the course of jailbreaking.

Yes, we have benefitted financially from our work, just as many others in the jailbreak community have, including tweak developers, repo owners, etc. Any jailbreak from us will always be free to the users but we believe we have a right to be compensated in an ethical way, just as any other developer. However, the interests of the community will always be the most important thing to us. When releasing the jailbreak, we pledged all our donations to foundations supporting the interests of the community. We are deeply upset at how we have inadvertently distressed the community and we are focused on fixing it.

We love the jailbreak community and you motivate us to do this work. Having a choice and freeing your device is important.

We hope you understand and we thank you for all of your support.

evad3rs
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yeah, this whole thing pisses me off. saurik was just kinda ignored, and without him, cydia would have never been created. i lost a lot of respect for the evad3rs team. and to think they did this for money is the disgusting part.
 
Finally getting some truth here....I guess they had to release it early not be beaten by saurik

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aPple nErd said:
yeah, this whole thing pisses me off. saurik was just kinda ignored, and without him, cydia would have never been created. i lost a lot of respect for the evad3rs team. and to think they did this for money is the disgusting part.
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I'm against the whole piracy and stuff but they do deserve money for what they do. They bring a free jailbreak to everyone and it's not easy with this whole cat and mouse with apple. But I do agree they should've been more upright with it and the whole china fake AppStore is a real bad look.
 
aPple nErd said:
yeah, this whole thing pisses me off. saurik was just kinda ignored, and without him, cydia would have never been created. i lost a lot of respect for the evad3rs team. and to think they did this for money is the disgusting part.
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Why...? What's worth doing is worth doing for money, right? Jailbreaking is not easy and only a handful of people are smart enough on this planet to do it. If they wanted to split a million bucks amongst 4 developers, power to them, they deserve it.
 
aPple nErd said:
yeah, this whole thing pisses me off. saurik was just kinda ignored, and without him, cydia would have never been created. i lost a lot of respect for the evad3rs team. and to think they did this for money is the disgusting part.
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"If you're good at something never do it for free" you really think they spent time with the jailbreak code just for social labor?
 
I don't like any of this at all.

What was meant to be something great has just turned into a complete shambles. It's hard knowing who to trust.

I think I will wait until another jailbrake arrives.
 
the chronic dev team said a long time ago, they do this not for money but to make the jailbreaks. so this just makes that statement bs. the only reason they released it now is because they could get money for it.
 
aPple nErd said:
the chronic dev team said a long time ago, they do this not for money but to make the jailbreaks. so this just makes that statement bs. the only reason they released it now is because they could get money for it.
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And I would do the same if I was in their shoes. Why shouldn't they get paid. They don't have to do this for free. And it's not an easy task.

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oatman13 said:
Why...? What's worth doing is worth doing for money, right? Jailbreaking is not easy and only a handful of people are smart enough on this planet to do it. If they wanted to split a million bucks amongst 4 developers, power to them, they deserve it.
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Thank you. They definitely do. We should be happy that they dedicate time to this. And we get all the benefits.
 
The only reason I actually need to jailbreak is because of SAM unlock.
I think these guys are just digging their own grave, like Apple's "efforts" weren't enough.

To be honest, I'd rather not have jailbreak than assist to deplorable events like this one. Just my two cents.
 
PedroCst said:
The only reason I actually need to jailbreak is because of SAM unlock.
I think these guys are just digging their own grave, like Apple's "efforts" weren't enough.

To be honest, I'd rather not have jailbreak than assist to deplorable events like this one. Just my two cents.
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Then buy an unlocked phone.
 
I wouldnt mind paying a few dollars for a jailbreak... but the way the evaders handled this thing got them enemies from all ends.. if they do deside to delete the ChinesePirateStore, my guess is the people who paid them wont be happy at all, and they´ve already pissed off the community, Saurik etc.
 
nooaah said:
Uninstalling and waiting for Saurik if true. F them.
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why? apparently saurik made some deals too so he didnt want to "join" them so they released it without his consent instead. see nothing wrong with that, its not like they "stole" his jailbreak and released it as their own.
 
Could Saurik block Cydia and MobileSubstrate on evasion jailbroken devices and only allow it on his jailbreak?
 
boobie12 said:
And I would do the same if I was in their shoes. Why shouldn't they get paid. They don't have to do this for free. And it's not an easy task.
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There are other ways to get paid. Donations or funding, for instance. The source of the money is the problem here. A related problem is the lack of transparency and the now given proof that companies can influence the development of jailbreaks. It may actually undermine the goals of the jailbreak community as a whole. Part of the reason to jailbreak was to break free from a company's (Apple) control. Now it may be others who do it.
 
This whole debacle hasn't earned them any friends.

Moreover, this "story" doesn't ring true with what other jailbreak developers are saying on twitter. It's not just Saurik that's pissed off with them. Saurik isn't the only high-profile dev who didn't see this coming. Plus people aren't happy that they're just blaming a dev who has been around much longer than they have.

And there's still unanswered questions - why just drop an unexpected payload without telling people first? Why not give people the choice to install it or not? Why is the app phoning home?

They're passing the buck to Saurik - I think (hope) people will see through this and see exactly what it is. They got paid to bundle some crapware and got caught with their pants down.
 
If I was Saurik I wouldn't update Cydia and MobileSubstrate for a good few months until he was ready to release his jailbreak.

It would completely screw over the evaders and people would be complaining about how their evasion jailbrake 'doesn't work'.
 
boobie12 said:
And I would do the same if I was in their shoes. Why shouldn't they get paid. They don't have to do this for free. And it's not an easy task.

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Thank you. They definitely do. We should be happy that they dedicate time to this. And we get all the benefits.
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Wise up. It's not that they got paid, it is who paid them, the Communist Chinese Govt. Anyone who thinks it was because they wanted a Chinese App Store is deluded.
 
stage5 said:
If I was Saurik I wouldn't update Cydia and MobileSubstrate for a good few months until he was ready to release his jailbreak.

It would completely screw over the evaders and people would be complaining about how their evasion jailbrake 'doesn't work'.
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Yea and it wouldn't really effect no one but us the ppl who want to jailbreak. So no he shouldn't do thag
 
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