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Everything Apple Announced at WWDC 2017 in 7 Minutes

Bacillus said:
They stuffed high-end HW in the nearest enclosure (iMac) to be found. Wauw. Thereby blurring the Consumer/Pro line again. The guy who assembled a competing $7000 PC also could have found something in the 3000-range if he was slightly more keen and ever googled "hackintosh".
External gpu is the only announcement that answers expandibility and a good sign.
[doublepost=1496819954][/doublepost]As a TouchBar developer, I am greatly disappointed.
Before the show, I was ready to support Phil in courageous action to give the TouchBar the attention and momentum needed.
Well, what a letdown !
No TouchBar seminars, no TouchBar curriculae No TouchBar gifts (such as wipers)
No TouchBar on a Magic Keyboard.
Not just underwhelming promotion but complete lack of strategy:
Not included across the MacBook line, a modest investment from Apples part, that would have greatly rewarded them on the longer term.
Apple's greatest innovation of 2016 has been marginalised within half a year and remains what it is: a row of emoji's, backed in hardware.
I will never believe Phil and his cheap promises again. I despise that kind of cheap opportunistic salesguys (now running after his boombox).
I will quit as a TB developer and demand them to return all my WWDC expenses.
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There are two Touch Bar session this week, the first one is today.
 
4jasontv said:
That's fair, but how much better do you suspect it will be?
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Well, as a professional composer I do know that you could pay anywhere from $150 to $2000+ for a single, bookshelf-sized, near field monitor (i.e., similarly sized woofer)... So the quality/price range in the general domain of speakers is pretty huge (of course I realize this is nothing like to $2k+ near field monitor, but you get the idea).
 
recoil80 said:
There are two Touch Bar session this week, the first one is today.
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Thanks, but I've decided to pursue other opportunities.
As there is little true commitment from the part of Mr. Phil (who more and more starts to resemble Kim Yung Il, with his khaki shirts, overexposure, opportunism and absolute opinions. Not the type I should follow...)
 
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My feeling is they are doing the same to the iMac with massive price tag, the same way they did this to the Mac Pro. Tried it and now its not updated in few years.... Lets turn to something else.. The iMac, see how we go with that., since its the desktop that most people would be using, its already got a head start. so if should uptake quicker more yes?

Needed the 7-minute refresher course :) I had trouble staying awake.
 
bax2003 said:
When you are bragging about the fact that "new" Pro iMac is faster than all of your lineup of computers, and you need 5-6 years to update current Mac Pro, i think that this is phazing out of the Mac Pro.
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Nope. The issue with the Mac Pro is they kinda blew it with the 2013 model and took too long to start fixing it, so they had to take the unusual step (for Apple) of talking about future products. But it will be a while before that happens, and in the meantime they still want to sell stuff.

--Eric
 
bax2003 said:
When you are bragging about the fact that "new" Pro iMac is faster than all of your lineup of computers, and you need 5-6 years to update current Mac Pro, i think that this is phazing out of the Mac Pro.
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You clearly don't pay attention. Apple ANNOUNCED that they are releasing a new Mac Pro next year last month.
 
ShufromChina said:
Just found out that the 12" MacBook can be configured to have dual-core i5/i7 CPU's. Can they still stay fanless? Really curious.
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Yes they are fanless, the internal will be the same no matter what CPU you chose.
I wonder if they need to throttle down the CPU if it becomes too hot.
My MBA has an i7 and sometimes it slows down because there is too much heat, even with the fan on.
I have a laptop holder with a fan and if I turn it on the Mac regains its full speed after a few seconds, so it is obviously a matter of heat.
The Macbook doesn't come with a fan, the CPU consumes less power so it runs cooler, but I wonder what happens if you are in an hot environment or the CPU has been performing some heavy tasks for a long amount of time.

However I hate the fan's noise, so I'm willing to sacrifice some speed to get rid of it. Too bad the Macbook comes in 12'' only, a 14 or 15'' display would be great to me
 
rp2011 said:
Apple pretty much showed they are THE only option where it comes to computers and technology.
I know a lot of the tech blogs hate to say it, some are still clinging to the mess that is Android and MS. But everything here just screams best tech you can buy.
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You are joking aren't you?
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DevNull0 said:
Without permission, take your favourite movie, cut a 7 minute summary that basically gives away the best of the whole movie, the whole plot and story, etc.

Redistribute your cut for profit.

And see how long it takes you to get sued.

Fair use doesn't mean what you think it means.

But..in this case, Apple probably doesn't mind their info being distributed, and it's very likely macrumors has permission anyway.
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I heard the keynote was 2.5 hours, way too long...
 
recoil80 said:
Yes they are fanless, the internal will be the same no matter what CPU you chose.
I wonder if they need to throttle down the CPU if it becomes too hot.
My MBA has an i7 and sometimes it slows down because there is too much heat, even with the fan on.
I have a laptop holder with a fan and if I turn it on the Mac regains its full speed after a few seconds, so it is obviously a matter of heat.
The Macbook doesn't come with a fan, the CPU consumes less power so it runs cooler, but I wonder what happens if you are in an hot environment or the CPU has been performing some heavy tasks for a long amount of time.

However I hate the fan's noise, so I'm willing to sacrifice some speed to get rid of it. Too bad the Macbook comes in 12'' only, a 14 or 15'' display would be great to me
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I did a little digging and yes you are right they are fan-less for sure. But the bad side of it is that the so-called i5/i7 processors in those 12'' MacBooks are basically still m5/m7 processors. Intel just quietly changed their names.
 
rp2011 said:
Apple pretty much showed they are THE only option where it comes to computers and technology.
I know a lot of the tech blogs hate to say it, some are still clinging to the mess that is Android and MS. But everything here just screams best tech you can buy.
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I suppose they're the only option if you want to pay $800 to go from 128 to 1000 gig of flash storage. Samsung EVO 960 PCI-E SSD is $470 for 1TB (less what the 128 gig you're giving up is worth) and at 3,200MB/s it's quite a bit faster than Apple's offering. The price drops significantly if you don't want the fasted flash and will settle for cheap apple-grade SSD.

The Razer Blade Pro puts the 15" MBP to shame on price, size, and performance. The Razer Blade does the same to the 13" MBP and the Razer Blade Steath kills the MB.

You can argue all you want about MacOS, that's just a matter of preference, but it terms of computers and technology, Apple gives you bottom of the barrel junk and higher prices than everyone else's premium.
 
Pleasantly surprised that new iMacs were announced for immediate sale. I thought I'd be stuck buying a discounted "old" model as they would be announced but not available until fall. So this is GREAT!!!

The other thing I am REALLY looking forward to is folders for iPad. About time!!!
 
Here is my impression of everything that was announced:

  • iPad: The new 10.5-inch iPad Pro was kind of expected, but it was perhaps the biggest hardware introduction of the event. It may be the sweet spot for the iPad. The upgrade to the 12.9-inch iPad Pro was also expected. However, prices are still high, and the 10.5-inch is even more expensive than the 9.7-inch Pro released last year (which was more expensive than the 9.7-inch Air which was released earlier). So, while Apple is pushing the iPads to be more similar to computers, it has also raised the prices. The cheapest iPad Pro with a keyboard is now USD 808 (USD 649 plus USD 159), which is more than several decent Windows laptops, which have much more functions. The iPad used to cost USD 499, and Apple is now charging way more than this for the flagship model. The iPad is still a toy; its operating system is slowly evolving, but certainly not at the pace of the raising prices.
  • MacBook: The new MacBook is an upgrade as expected. The good news is the improved keyboard, similar to the Pros, which is nice. The processor speed seems to have increased too, which is also a pro. But this laptop remains very expensive at USD 1,299 for what it really is. It is underpowered and, although not a novelty anymore (it's the third generation), Apple has kept the high prices. This is really underwhelming. The Surface Laptop has a better processor, and the same RAM and SSD, for the same USD 1,299.
  • MacBook Pro: Updated as expected. No real news here. Again, Apple lost the opportunity to lower the prices. The MacBook Pro with Touch Bar still costs at least USD 1,799, which is very expensive for the configuration. There is a cheaper version for USD 1,299, but it also comes with less, as Apple decided to offer a version with only 128 GB of SSD. Nobody should seriously consider buying a laptop with only 128 GB of storage for USD 1,299, especially if it is not upgradeable.
  • MacBook Air: This model should have been discontinued, but it is updated with a new processor! The design dates back from 2011, is almost 6 years old. It is a good design, but it is dated at this point. This is probably a very popular model, as it is sold for USD 999. Still, very expensive for such an old design. Apple should have lowered the prices of the MacBook and of the MacBook Pro and discontinued the Air.
  • iMac: The brighter displays are nice, so are the faster storage. They are still expensive, but that was expected.
  • iMac Pro: A big announcement, this one. At USD 4,999, it is overpriced, and the upgrades should be as well. Prices were not revealed for each model, but they should be astonishing, for pros only. This iMac on steroids may be the answer to the Surface Studio, but it lacks the same degree of creativity.
  • HomePod: I cannot understand this one. How is anybody going to pay USD 349 for this thing that only works with Apple Music? Apple must have gone crazy.
  • iOS: The biggest announcement of the day. Finally, after more than 7 years, the iPad gets something to differentiate itself from the iPhone. With iOS 11, the iPad has the chance of not being a big iPhone anymore, although it is still not a real computer. Perhaps one day it becomes one. iOS 11 makes the iPad closer to a computer, but it still has no support for a mouse; you can have a keyboard, and multi-tasking, but you have to use the touch screen, which is something Steve Jobs once said was unacceptable.
  • macOS: No big new features, but under-the-hood improvements that should be good. APFS is the big news, but I am still skeptical of its performance. It made my iPhone 6s a lot slower, and I am not sure how it will be with Macs.
 
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